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Old Nov 22, 2018, 10:54 AM   #1441
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 01:12 AM   #1442
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getting the cant reach oculus runtime error again. This time however, none of the fixes work and the next step would be a complete uninstall/re-install but it wants to delete all downloaded apps at the same time WTF!

This error is the dumbest ****. For those of you that don't know, the first time it happened was because Oculus let a license run out and the temp fix was to change the date on your PC to when the license was valid.

Update: It looks like it was a patch that was released on the 14th that broke it for every one. This happens way too often.
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Old Dec 24, 2018, 07:01 AM   #1443
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getting the cant reach oculus runtime error again. This time however, none of the fixes work and the next step would be a complete uninstall/re-install but it wants to delete all downloaded apps at the same time WTF!

This error is the dumbest ****. For those of you that don't know, the first time it happened was because Oculus let a license run out and the temp fix was to change the date on your PC to when the license was valid.

Update: It looks like it was a patch that was released on the 14th that broke it for every one. This happens way too often.
Run the oculus repair again (via the Oculus install tool) & install 0.85
Oculus tray tool is your friend on this one, just go in on the service startup tab press play and then start oculus and get back to awe of beat saber! Merry Xmas in advance.
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Old Dec 24, 2018, 01:11 PM   #1444
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Run the oculus repair again (via the Oculus install tool) & install 0.85
Oculus tray tool is your friend on this one, just go in on the service startup tab press play and then start oculus and get back to awe of beat saber! Merry Xmas in advance.
They eventually fixed it. The repair didn't work till like their third attempt. First they rolled back to an older version then must have eventually fixed it and re-patched to the current one. It's just nuts how often no one can use their Oculus because they screwed up an update or something.
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Old Jan 13, 2019, 01:18 AM   #1445
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https://radiusgordello.itch.io/unreal-pt#download


some one remade the silent hill PT and added VR support


Author is planning to pull it next week so better get it while you can
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Old Jan 13, 2019, 08:00 AM   #1446
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Old Jan 14, 2019, 12:30 AM   #1447
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Any of you tried this yet?
I played the original on PS4. Wondering how well they did with the VR port?
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Old Jan 14, 2019, 03:39 PM   #1448
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Any of you tried this yet?
I played the original on PS4. Wondering how well they did with the VR port?
Horrible. Weird distortion effect when you move. I had to turn it off after about 30 seconds.
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They released an update to fix the weird barrel distortion in VR. Much better now.
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Old Mar 29, 2019, 09:27 PM   #1450
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Valve teases their new VR headset

Valve Index
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/...-for-may-2019/

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Old Apr 30, 2019, 02:01 PM   #1451
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https://store.steampowered.com/valveindex


Valve index offically up for preorder - full bundle $999
Headset and controller - $799
Headset $499
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Pass, I will stick with my cheap PSVR. Now everything is going for 1K!
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I'll wait for more reviews on the Valve Index, however I don't see myself going back to wired. A couple extra degrees of FoV and slightly lower SDE isn't enough to make a difference (personally I don't see much difference in SDE between the WMR LCD displays and Vive Pro/Samsung Odyssey, so I don't think the pixel arrangement makes that much difference). On top of that with LCD displays it remains to be seen how much worse contrast/black levels are compared to OLEDs.
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Yeah already have a Vive Pro Wireless here. Don't see this as an upgrade if its wired only. Will probably just buy the new controllers.
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Gays, worth boning a Oculus Quest?
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You misspelled Rift S.

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Ouch that blows getting just the controllers in the ass for me. Hopefully they'll let them work with the Rift in the future.
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You misspelled Rift S.

Ouch that blows getting just the controllers in the ass for me. Hopefully they'll let them work with the Rift in the future.
Rift uses completely different tracking system.
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Rift uses completely different tracking system.
I'm aware of that.

I was hoping I could use the Knuckles/Index Controllers with the SteamVR titles and fall back to my Oculus touch controllers for titles that wouldn't benefit Valves controllers.
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I went ahead and ordered the Knuckles controllers. Although I can afford it, I am a pretty disappointed with the price. After tax they cost me over $300! That's practically the same cost as an entire Oculus Rift or WMR setup. In fact, if you are patient, you can get an entire Samsung Odyssey on sale for around that price!

I looked at the Index/Knuckles bundle, but you save very little by getting the bundle ($30), and I'm not going to spend $500 to go back to a wired headset. I am really surprised it didn't release with a wireless add-on. In fact, right now there's not even any word whether it's going to receive one!

Overall, the prices are not as absurd as the Vive Pro (but it came out a full year later), but they still aren't cheap by any means. Especially the price of the controllers and base stations are too high. After all the talk about Base Station 2.0 being cheaper to make, $150 per is a tough pill to swallow. I can basically accept the headset cost.

I expect we'll see a Vive Pro price cut in the near future putting it back on price parity with the Index. I think HTC was milking it while they could, but they can afford to bring the price down to match Valve's prices.

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I'm aware of that.

I was hoping I could use the Knuckles/Index Controllers with the SteamVR titles and fall back to my Oculus touch controllers for titles that wouldn't benefit Valves controllers.
Apparently there is some way you can use the Knuckles with the Rift. However, it's a pretty pricey way to go, since you have to buy the base stations too.

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Valve ain't shipping to Canada and it looks like the controllers are selling out already anyways. Poop... Should have partnered with HTC again for this. At least they know how to mass produce **** and ship worldwide.
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Apparently there is some way you can use the Knuckles with the Rift. However, it's a pretty pricey way to go, since you have to buy the base stations too.

Fancy will see how it do when the Index stuff releases.

Hopefully we get a more open and easier way to do this. If I've learned anything these past 10 years its that these days the community fixes what developers wont.
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Hopefully we get a more open and easier way to do this. If I've learned anything these past 10 years its that these days the community fixes what developers wont.
Seems like a huge hassle and a lot of money for something that could easily be broken by a Oculus or Steam update.

IMO, there is pretty much no way that Valve is going to hold that $1000 price point. Within 6 months from now, they will surely have some massive discount deal. At the current price, only the most extreme enthusiasts will bite, and there is no way Valve can grow a VR ecology around that.
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Seems like a huge hassle and a lot of money for something that could easily be broken by a Oculus or Steam update.

IMO, there is pretty much no way that Valve is going to hold that $1000 price point. Within 6 months from now, they will surely have some massive discount deal. At the current price, only the most extreme enthusiasts will bite, and there is no way Valve can grow a VR ecology around that.
I'm afraid the production costs are dictating the price. Valve probably doesn't have the economies of scale that, say, Samsung or Lenovo does, or for that matter even HTC.

Based on the cost of the base stations, it doesn't look like they're willing to sell at cost/at a loss. Not that they should be expected to lose money on the hardware (although an argument could be made that, like with the console makers, they'll make it up through game sales), but the reality is Valve just isn't that generous.

Also it seems like they aimed for a "high end" product, rather than an affordable mass market one (which honestly probably made sense). They're not necessarily looking to move tons of hardware. But that does seem like it may limit the penetration of the Knuckles controllers.
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I'm afraid the production costs are dictating the price. Valve probably doesn't have the economies of scale that, say, Samsung or Lenovo does, or for that matter even HTC.

Based on the cost of the base stations, it doesn't look like they're willing to sell at cost/at a loss. Not that they should be expected to lose money on the hardware (although an argument could be made that, like with the console makers, they'll make it up through game sales), but the reality is Valve just isn't that generous.

Also it seems like they aimed for a "high end" product, rather than an affordable mass market one (which honestly probably made sense). They're not necessarily looking to move tons of hardware. But that does seem like it may limit the penetration of the Knuckles controllers.
Valve makes money from selling games. If they don't sell enough of these, people won't make games for them and people won't buy games from them. It is basically like selling a console.

We have seen it before, where Valve regularly put their Steam gamepad on sale for what must have been a massive loss.

Also, the notion that Valve doesn't have capital to take advantage of economies of scale is comical. It isn't even like they have never been in the hardware business before. They certainly aren't going to make their money back without eventually selling a few million if these.
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Economies of scale is more than just about having money. Sure, Valve could probably have a massive production run of Index headsets made, but then they all just end up sitting in a warehouse somewhere. Much as I wish it were otherwise, I think it's pretty unlikely that Valve will manage to sell a million Indexes. Even at half the price I don't know that would happen. VR is just too much of a niche still to get that sort of mass market penetration.

Other manufacturers that have agreements in place or production lines of their own can do smaller runs more economically because they can more easily roll it in with other things they produce. For example, they may get a better price for various components that can be used in the HMD because they are also used in other products they make, so they're able to buy in much higher volume. They could have some spare production time at one of their factories, which they can take advantage of to build the HMD (granted they'd still have to retool to create the HMD specific components).

When it comes to producing hardware, Valve is a very small player. I think it's pretty unlikely they can compete with the juggernauts in terms of production cost. At least not unless they move much more aggressively into hardware than it seems like they want to.

We'll have to wait and see if the price comes down. Maybe you'll prove to be right. But, if that does happen we can expect it not to happen until the initial pre-orders are all fulfilled (no reason to cut the price when it's already selling out). I guess we'll probably see sales around the end of the year holiday season. It just depends how much you are willing to wait.
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Managed to preorder the controllers and new base stations through wantboard.ca. The website orders stuff in the US and then ships to Canada. Since I don't need the Index the backlog doesn't seem too bad. Base stations will ship at end of June and knuckles at end of July.
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