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Old Jun 15, 2004, 06:39 PM   #1
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Default End of the line for faster DVD Burners not far ahead

Just like the time when CD-Recorders reached its speed limit of 52x, the recording speed for DVD-recorders will also reach its limit once 16x DVD recorders launch this fall. It takes just under 6 minutes to fill a DVD at 16x and at this recording speed, the rotational rate is around 10,000RPM; similar to that of 52x CD recording. This is the limit that the polycarbonate material in CDs and DVDs can safely handle before the risk of the disc rupturing significantly increases.

However once 16x burners DVD±R being shipping, there will still be room for improvement on rewritable recording speeds and particularly the 2.4x recording speed for DVD+R DL as this is just the beginning for the dual-layer DVD recordable. So far no manufacturer has announced whether dual-layer recording speed can be improved on.

Sony and Matsushita expect to commercialise Blu-Ray recorders with up to 50GB recording capacity by the end of 2004. The current drawback of Blu-ray recorders is the requirement of two optical pick-up heads (one for red/infra-red & one for blue/violet) which makes the manufacturing process more complex and expensive. Sony expects to release a 3-wavelength pickup head within the next two years.

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Old Jun 15, 2004, 07:40 PM   #2
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Anyone else think that BluRay is gonna go the way of Zip drives? DVD Recording is just barely reaching mainstream, there's no way in heck that BluRay will reach open arms so soon. Seems premature to me.
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Old Jun 15, 2004, 07:50 PM   #3
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Not to mention expensive. I dont have exact figures for the costs of these things, but what seems to bother most critical analysts in the tech sector is the cost of Blue Ray Media. Needless to say, they will make DVDR media seem dirt cheap in comparison.
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Old Jun 15, 2004, 07:51 PM   #4
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When HD-DVD's come out, it will probably be like when DVD burners came out. It will be mostly a high-end thing w/ little support in the mainstream. DVD burner are only starting to break mainstream right now, so I'd say HD-DVD will need to wait a few years before becoming like DVD is today at the least. The only problem I see w/ HD-DVD is that it looks like there might be two standards again for the next gen in optical drive technology. I was hoping to get past the blemish left behind by DVD+/-R, but it looks like history may repeat itself. Only the two techs look to be more different so I'm not sure if multi-format recorders will be possible.

Heck, I'm still waiting for them to refine CD-RW speed. It seems to have stopped at 32X. I was hoping they could at least make 52x52x52 burners now.
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Old Jun 15, 2004, 08:05 PM   #5
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I dont even trust 48X cdroms too much, my Age of Empires disc blew up in one...
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Old Jun 15, 2004, 08:34 PM   #6
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I can't wait for BluRay to come out... I don't have any use for it but I might save up and buy one just to have one lol (this coming from a person who can't even scrounge up $100 for a new video card). In one 50GB BR Disc I could put the entire contents of my hard drive! If I uninstalled a game or two I could put it on there twice! It's amazing the leap that BluRay could make in storage. I could just take all my DVDs and put all their movies into one BluRay disc. Plenty of extra storage space already
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Old Jun 15, 2004, 09:31 PM   #7
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you'd spend several hundred $$ just to record 50gb, possibly 100gb of data? then you'd only be able to play it in your computer bc for some time no one would have a blu-ray reader... buying a new HD (possibly a firewire HD if you want mobility) is waaaaaay cheaper...


meh, i fear that it'll be quite some time before we get to see blu-ray, even among the enthusiast crowd...
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blu ray looks bleh microsofts HD-dvd standard looks a ELLUVA LOT more promising in terms of cost use integration with existing hardware backwards compadibility im sorry i usally think sony products are really revolutionary but to me blu ray is a dud
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I dont even trust 48X cdroms too much, my Age of Empires disc blew up in one...
Holy Siht !!!

I had a brand new Sony DVD burner and put in a CD-R and the ****er shattered into many pieces. Sounded like someone took a sledge hammer to the side of my computer. It ended up rendering my new drive toast.

So I replaced it with an NEC drive and haven't even tried to burn anything yet in over a month.

Still waiting to get some media and have my new DVD player plugged in to use it with DVD+/-R.
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I guess that just goes to show that getting the fastest speeds available isn't worth it sometimes. I have a LiteOn 52x Burner and every time I burn something at high speed, I get nervous. Kinda crazy and very sad.
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When are the dual layer dvd burners suppose to be coming out, or was that crushed by the movie industry?
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all my DVD-rom and DVD burner and ex CDwriter are Liteon. almost faultless. The faster the better. burn baby burn..!
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dual layer burners are already out my friend
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dual layer burners are already out my friend
Yep, i'm not going to bother getting one because anyone with a NEC 2500a can use a hacked firmware to enable Dual layer support on their drive me thinks i made a good choice of DVD RW.
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I have a Sony DRU-700A dual layer writer but the software is high and hard to find.They need to make them write faster than at 2.4x,I can burn three plain DVD's quicker than I can burn one DL-DVD.
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if you think current DL is a good way to store your data reliably for a long period of time, then... I cant say anything


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It does'nt matter to me what I store my backups own, a plain DVD or a DL-DVD,except right now it is a hell of a lot cheaper to use a plain DVD and a lot faster to write to.storeing it on a DL-DVD would last as long as a plain DVD anyway.IMO That is the formatt that DVD movies use and they seem to last ok.
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yes john BUT they use pressed materials the problem with DL dvds is the second layer maintaing its readability
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