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Old Jun 18, 2019, 02:40 AM   #1
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Thumbs down Why has Taylor swift turned to such crap?

These new songs lately are no good. I got more used to reputation and it's OK
..but really?
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Old Jun 18, 2019, 08:46 AM   #2
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Old Jun 18, 2019, 10:05 AM   #4
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Like listen to state of grace, all too well, begin again, I know places. This is the golden standard of emo music. Every piece of our shattered hearts screamed "**** yeah". Even fun songs like picture to burn or the story of us were something we could all relate to. No one ever did it better. I'm supposed to get excited about some rap song about yeast infections with product placement. I really want to. But no.
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She hasn't dated and broken up with anyone lately.
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I honestly didn't know she was still making records.

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and the feud between her and Katie Perry has ended.
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I remember when No Doubt turned to crap. It happens when artists get popular, and realize that they can turn out anything and it will sell... easy to get lazy, and besides then you end up spending half your time on business development instead of art anyway. That's also how you get all the modern art that nobody understands but still sells for millions.
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and the feud between her and Katie Perry has ended.
Tay tay is like 5 inches taller, younger, lifts and is a year or two further from rehab. It was over before it started
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I remember when No Doubt turned to crap. It happens when artists get popular, and realize that they can turn out anything and it will sell... easy to get lazy, and besides then you end up spending half your time on business development instead of art anyway. That's also how you get all the modern art that nobody understands but still sells for millions.
I think a large part of it is also that it's hard to consistently produce good and original songs (or anything, really). If you look at most old bands they had their golden era, and then after that it's just rehashing the same stuff over and over again.

There are some exceptions, but there are simply limits to people's creativity. And, like you said, since they're established all of the stuff will sell anyway, crap or not, whereas when they were smaller the bad stuff wouldn't see the light of day.
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what's Taylor Swift? Is it a mop?
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Why has Taylor swift turned to such crap?
These new songs lately are no good. I got more used to reputation and it's OK
..but really?
Its poo music, so this statement is oxymoronic.






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She had ONE pop album. Every single song on it was a huge hit, and still played everywhere, so people easily think that's all there is to it.

Taylor Swift has actually written and recorded every genre and of music over the years. All of it is pretty amazing in it's own way while maintaining a quality throughout. A woman stands up shouting the truth and millions of people said "hey she's right. I know what she's saying. So do all of these other people. I have hope for the world."

We are talking about the greatest musician of the modern era, possibly the only and possibly the last ever. These 2 latest songs are not just freebies for the internet, but leading tracks for her next album. They are garbage. The implications are going to be felt worldwide. Even someone unfamiliar with the entire catalogue of Taylor mfing swift's musical triumphs has been touched by the love and understanding inspired in the world. This is a huge. Big. Deal.
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She had ONE pop album. Every single song on it was a huge hit, and still played everywhere, so people easily think that's all there is to it.

Taylor Swift has actually written and recorded every genre and of music over the years. All of it is pretty amazing in it's own way while maintaining a quality throughout. A woman stands up shouting the truth and millions of people said "hey she's right. I know what she's saying. So do all of these other people. I have hope for the world."

We are talking about the greatest musician of the modern era, possibly the only and possibly the last ever. These 2 latest songs are not just freebies for the internet, but leading tracks for her next album. They are garbage. The implications are going to be felt worldwide. Even someone unfamiliar with the entire catalogue of Taylor mfing swift's musical triumphs has been touched by the love and understanding inspired in the world. This is a huge. Big. Deal.
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We are talking about the greatest musician of the modern era, possibly the only and possibly the last ever.
Everyone has opinions, and no way can we tell each other what to like. Just go with what you like.

However, it's also very probable that we can't make such absolute statements, like "greatest" anything. As far as modern musicians go, there are waaaay too many extremely talented musicians out there, known and unknown. As talented as Taylor may be, I'm pretty confident she's not the greatest out there today. Even within my fairly narrow catalogue of things I like, I can think of many others that I'd give that title to.

But again, we all have our preferences and opinions.

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These 2 latest songs are not just freebies for the internet, but leading tracks for her next album. They are garbage. The implications are going to be felt worldwide. Even someone unfamiliar with the entire catalogue of Taylor mfing swift's musical triumphs has been touched by the love and understanding inspired in the world. This is a huge. Big. Deal.
I do hope that part is true. This world needs a lot of love and understanding.
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No.

I grant you, you are a legendary troll though. Your posts are golden memes waiting to be found by the rest of the internet.
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Old Jun 22, 2019, 08:12 PM   #28
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I remember when No Doubt turned to crap. It happens when artists get popular, and realize that they can turn out anything and it will sell... easy to get lazy, and besides then you end up spending half your time on business development instead of art anyway. That's also how you get all the modern art that nobody understands but still sells for millions.
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I think a large part of it is also that it's hard to consistently produce good and original songs (or anything, really). If you look at most old bands they had their golden era, and then after that it's just rehashing the same stuff over and over again.

There are some exceptions, but there are simply limits to people's creativity. And, like you said, since they're established all of the stuff will sell anyway, crap or not, whereas when they were smaller the bad stuff wouldn't see the light of day.
Yeah, it's a tough nut to crack. Though laziness is often a factor, I also think some artists get too wrapped up in their own art, and go off on arcane and inaccessible tangents "for art's sake" as it were.

Someone once said, "Art is the trick of making the familiar new." With music, there's a conflict between doing the same thing over and over, or branching out into new territory but disappointing current fans. When Bill Bruford left Yes to join King Crimson after the release of Close to the Edge, he said something like, "I thought we were at the point that all we were going to keep doing was Son of Close to the Edge."

I think it's special when a musical act tanks and then rebounds. Yes, for example, did this a lot. Recently, imho, Silversun Pickups has done this with their last album, Widow's Weeds. (Their previous album was a trainwreck).

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