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Old Oct 20, 2011, 07:44 PM   #2971
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Ok, so I try a rush map and I just get swarmed by two helis that I'm not even sure how to take down. I hate BC2. The vehicles are as gimmicky as COD kill streak rewards.
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 07:45 PM   #2972
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 07:48 PM   #2973
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Ok, so I try a rush map and I just get swarmed by two helis that I'm not even sure how to take down. I hate BC2. The vehicles are as gimmicky as COD kill streak rewards.
I swear I'm not trying to be rude or pompous, but it just seems like you're not willing to try and overcome adversity or look for ways to combat anything other than infantry. If you're at a low level and have unlocked the tracer dart gun but not the AT4 launcher, what I would suggest doing is nailing the helicopter with a dart at just the right moment, then pulling out an RPG, aiming through the scope at the helicopter until the blinking orange box stays solid, then fire away. If you luck up and the pilot either doesn't have or use his flares, the missile will seek its way to the helicopter and you'll almost always score a hit and either take it down or dish out massive damage. If you play enough so that you unlock the AT4 launcher, start practicing with it and learn how to steer the missile into hovering helicopters. When you fire, hold down left click and keep your eye on the missile itself. As you move your mouse around, you'll "steer" it in mid-air and if you practice enough with it, hitting hovering helicopters is super easy. Sometimes you have to lead them, too, because the missiles fly so slowly; but once you master it you'll be able to take down almost any pilot in the game unless he's far away or comes close and maneuvers so quickly your slow missiles can't reach him until he's already moved out of position. The best thing about the AT4 is that unlike with tracer darts, even flares can't save pilots from an experienced user. Flares completely negate most tracer dart efforts, but a skilled AT4 soldier can take down pilots with ease unless they're very, very good.
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That, and most maps have positions with AA. Such as the map Heavy Metal. B position has an AA gun. If there is an enemy chopper in the sky, be on that, or near it.

I don't remember how long it took me to get the tracer dart gun. I do know it wasn't that long.

If you are still low level. Run a medic, and just run around wildly and revive people. It'll rack up your score pretty quick for the basic unlocks. (such as tracer dart gun)
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Old Oct 20, 2011, 08:37 PM   #2975
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The problem with planes is eventually pilots do get very good. That's what happened in 1942, and it got to be where only another pilot who was equally skilled could take them out in a dog fight, AA was ineffective as they'd just dive bomb it out of the angle it could reach and it would be gone same thing would happen to tanks and apcs. If they got air superiority in the first few minutes they pretty much had it the rest of a match, barring the occasional really lucky bazooka. I hope jets in bf3 don't turn out that way. BC2 on the other hand you rarely have a copter who can hang in the air for very long, if your team is half way decent.
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The problem with planes is eventually pilots do get very good. That's what happened in 1942, and it got to be where only another pilot who was equally skilled could take them out in a dog fight, AA was ineffective as they'd just dive bomb it out of the angle it could reach and it would be gone same thing would happen to tanks and apcs. If they got air superiority in the first few minutes they pretty much had it the rest of a match, barring the occasional really lucky bazooka. I hope jets in bf3 don't turn out that way. BC2 on the other hand you rarely have a copter who can hang in the air for very long, if your team is half way decent.
I dislike running into a lazy team, or a team with a bunch of people who don't know whats going on, and you end up with the same chopper taking people out at will and no one helps either with taking it down or distracting it so someone else can.
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I just played some BC2 tonight and was reminded just how god awful the shotgun hit registration is. It's almost comical just how broken the mechanics are. I really can't wait for the much improved BF3.
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Some of ya'll crack me up. People bitch and complain that they want a realistic war game, but when they get it, they complain about aircraft. Hello! In real wars, the side with air superiority tends to have the upper leg.

The one thing I don't like about BF3 is the lack of Bot play offline (or even online in a private server). In BF2, I use to play that way all the time, in order to learn to fly the jets and helos.

Personally, I'm going to pay for a 16-man server the 1st month, just to learn the mechanics of flying in this game. Yeah, it'll cost me an extra $16, but it's probably worth it.
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or u could play in an empty server
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First 10 minutes of BF3 single-player (ps3)

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Yeah, going to be a lot of empty servers right off the bat.
That and the round might not start until their are players on both sides.
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Ok, so I try a rush map and I just get swarmed by two helis that I'm not even sure how to take down. I hate BC2. The vehicles are as gimmicky as COD kill streak rewards.
2 hellis? theres only 1 map where its possible for a team to have 2 choppers in the air at once, and they are both transport choppers.. Besides on that map its easy to evade the choppers, if your team isnt totally hopeless that is.

You can shoot the pilot and gunners with your rifle, sniper is easy actually, or use an LMG to damage the chopper and kill the crew, use mounted AA or 50 cals scattered around, or go engineer and hit it with a tracer dart and fire a rocket.. boom.
Honestly I dont even worry about the choppers, I know how to evade them and tbh I ignore them 99% of the time. The only time they will pwn you is if youre on a really shiit team and you keep spawning at spawn instead of on squad mates.

Its not gimmicky or like CoD kill streaks at all, and saying that makes its obvious you have never even tried to be a gunner or pilot, if you had you wouldnt say rubbish like that.
Just sounds like sour grapes to me.. in the transport chopper its very hard to stay alive as pilot and hard get kills as gunner, you usually have to tag people 8 - 10 times. When I fly the chopper I usually load it up with my squad, do a lap or 2 until its heavily damaged, then crash land behind enemy lines and start raping.

I think youre like me a few years ago and just cant see the way the game is played, BC2 requires far more quick thinking and ability to visualise the flow of the battle, where to spawn, when to move etc. not just looking at whats directly infront of you sneaking around hiding in corners like a newb. Its far more hardcore than CoD, DoDs etc. Its an FPS on another level that is unforgiving to noobs, and tbh if youre not even rank 10 youre just going to get smashed constantly... everyone is rank 50 by now, if not a year ago, and knows the game inside out and so on, youre really just going to get destroyed.. but thats not the games fault, its your lack of knowledge of how to play.

You might aswell start fresh with BF3 rush... btw, there wasnt even a vehicle in the metro map in BF3 beta, although I think they are adding a light tank to 1 section of it, which are weak as piss.. I'd be surprised if you lasted 2 minutes in one.
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You might aswell start fresh with BF3 rush... btw, there wasnt even a vehicle in the metro map in BF3 beta, although I think they are adding a light tank to 1 section of it, which are weak as piss.. I'd be surprised if you lasted 2 minutes in one.
The alpha had a tank on the us side.
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