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Old Sep 10, 2009, 08:08 AM   #1
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Have any updates / fixes been released for Win7 yet?
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Old Sep 10, 2009, 08:46 AM   #2
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Have any updates / fixes been released for Win7 yet?
no OS updates, at least according to my windows update history
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No OS updates, but stuff for Silverlight, Defender and stuff like that.
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Lots of Windows Defender definition updates as well. But no Windows specific updates yet. Also Malicious Software Removal Tool got a couple bumps as well. Looks like a few minor devices have gotten updates since informal release as well.

By the time it officially launches, it will be a well updated and mature OS

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do a search here, there are threads with minor updates, like one makes the laoding logo pulsate more to make it easier to understand
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Just wondering.

I am contemplating doing a new build, possibly an i7 rig, but would only install a 64 bit OS.

How well supported are the 64 bit variants now by Microsoft and 3rd party companies? Is 32 bit version still Microsoft's priority?
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I honestly haven't looked back to 32bit in a couple of years. Support is completely solid and has been for some time. Only the very terminally lazy driver devs haven't caught up, and they're becoming fewer and farther between now.
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I honestly haven't looked back to 32bit in a couple of years. Support is completely solid and has been for some time. Only the very terminally lazy driver devs haven't caught up, and they're becoming fewer and farther between now.
Same here, absolutely no problems with x64.
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Just wondering.

I am contemplating doing a new build, possibly an i7 rig, but would only install a 64 bit OS.

How well supported are the 64 bit variants now by Microsoft and 3rd party companies? Is 32 bit version still Microsoft's priority?
your still on a 32 bit os
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If you have any older hardware you still want to use go 32 Bit.
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If you have any older hardware you still want to use go 32 Bit.
Or just dump the old stuff. It's not getting any newer.
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http://forums.mydigitallife.info/forumdisplay.php?f=16


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There are changes like this that have been done since beta, but nothing since RTM.
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searched a bit and found this:

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   Windows6.1-KB123334-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB123456-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB674101-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB674103-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB675605-v2-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB675606-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB972636-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB973525-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB973529-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB973751-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB973874-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974039-v2-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974138-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974176-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974179-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974204-v2-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974324-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974327-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974332-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974431-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974473-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974537-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974560-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974571-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974598-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974636-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974638-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974817-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974909-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974912-x64.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974940-v2-x64.msu

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   Windows6.1-KB123334-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB123456-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB674101-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB674103-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB675605-v2-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB675606-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB972636-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB973525-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB973529-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB973751-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB973874-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974039-v2-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974138-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974176-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974179-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974204-v2-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974324-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974327-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974332-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974431-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974473-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974537-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974560-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974571-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974598-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974638-x86.msu
   Windows6.1-KB974719-x86.msu
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Are all of those for RTM? Or are some of them for RC and earlier? Also, some of them appear to possibly be dummy updates (tests).
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This is all the updates I've had:



Application updates, none for OS (Except for the dummy update testing update).
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So Cavedude, do you like MS Security Essentials?
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Or just dump the old stuff. It's not getting any newer.
I suppose but why? Still works fine, Why should I spend more money on hardware I shouldn't need to buy just for a specific OS.
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I suppose but why? Still works fine, Why should I spend more money on hardware I shouldn't need to buy just for a specific OS.
You make the same arguement that has been made for years. If that arguement held any long term weight, we'd all still be using Windows 98.
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If you have any older hardware you still want to use go 32 Bit.
This is the only reason I keep XP Pro x86 around at all. I have, what would become a very expensive [to me] hardware upgrade if I was limited to Vista and/or Windows 7.

I have a legal size flatbed scanner that's in perfectly good working order. I really don't need to buy a new one just because of upgrading the OS.

But, this is not a limitation due to x86 vs. x64. There simply are no drivers for it under Vista or Windows 7 period!

It's one of those things I do not use every day, but, when I need to use it, I have it ready. All I have to do is boot into XP and do what needs to be done and then boot back into Windows 7. [I also still do have Vista Home Premium x86 installed but rarely ever use it except to test games and performance stuff. Once Windows 7 has been out officially for six months, I'll likely clean that hard drive and use it for storage.

But, until this flatbed scanner actually gives up the ghost, XP will still be available.
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You make the same arguement that has been made for years. If that arguement held any long term weight, we'd all still be using Windows 98.
This might be true if it didn't still work in Windows 7 32 bit, But it does.
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This is the only reason I keep XP Pro x86 around at all. I have, what would become a very expensive [to me] hardware upgrade if I was limited to Vista and/or Windows 7.

I have a legal size flatbed scanner that's in perfectly good working order. I really don't need to buy a new one just because of upgrading the OS.

But, this is not a limitation due to x86 vs. x64. There simply are no drivers for it under Vista or Windows 7 period!

It's one of those things I do not use every day, but, when I need to use it, I have it ready. All I have to do is boot into XP and do what needs to be done and then boot back into Windows 7. [I also still do have Vista Home Premium x86 installed but rarely ever use it except to test games and performance stuff. Once Windows 7 has been out officially for six months, I'll likely clean that hard drive and use it for storage.

But, until this flatbed scanner actually gives up the ghost, XP will still be available.

Why don't you just use Windows 7 XP mode for that?
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I suppose but why? Still works fine, Why should I spend more money on hardware I shouldn't need to buy just for a specific OS.
The argumentative part of your comment is the 'shouldnt need to buy'. If you want the benefit of 64-bit computing you need to weigh the pro's and con's of the decision. You may have legacy hardware that is not supported and have to consider if you really need it or not.

Some of us went through this procedure a while ago and for us adoption of 64-bit is natural and easy.

If you want to argue that it all should just work on 64-bit or 32-bit... well, there are well published articles and editorials explaining why this isn't going to be the case, and wishing just won't make it so.
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The argumentative part of your comment is the 'shouldnt need to buy'. If you want the benefit of 64-bit computing you need to weigh the pro's and con's of the decision. You may have legacy hardware that is not supported and have to consider if you really need it or not.

Some of us went through this procedure a while ago and for us adoption of 64-bit is natural and easy.

If you want to argue that it all should just work on 64-bit or 32-bit... well, there are well published articles and editorials explaining why this isn't going to be the case, and wishing just won't make it so.

The thing is there is very little point in a 64 bit operating system, Other then memory. Nothing is written for it and even some newer hardware don't have drivers. I really don't think any argument otherwise makes any difference at this point. 64 bit will only be worth it when they quit releasing 32 bit operating systems.

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Old Sep 13, 2009, 01:07 PM   #25
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The thing is there is very little point in a 64 bit operating system, Other then memory. Nothing is written for it and even some newer hardware don't have drivers. I really don't think any argument otherwise makes any difference at this point. 64 bit will only be worth it when they quit releasing 32 bit operating systems.
This is not true, although it is represenative of the common consumer perception of 64-bit.

For windows, the 64-bit kernel is designed differently and is inherently more secure. Additionally the use of native 64-bit applications increases performance as memory reads and writes are performed in 64-bit chunks instead of 32-bit. Additionally each 64-bit application has a much larger memory address space to run in, so even with small amounts of system ram (i.e. between 2gb and 4gb) there is potential for application performance increase over running in 32-bit mode.

Microsoft is no longer releasing 32-bit server OS; Server 2008 R2, based on the NT 6.1 kernel like windows 7, is 64-bit only. Exchange 2007 came in 32-bit and 64-bit versions, but only 64-bit is supported for production use.

With Windows 7 XP mode the reasons for sticking with 32-bit are for legacy compatibility only, and if there is an app that doesn't run under 32-bit windows now it might be time to re-evalutate alternatives.
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Well, I have just ordered a new i7 build so will be trying out something other than XP-32 for the first time in about 8 years (never used Vista). Going to have a stab at Windows 7 64-RTM.

I guess we won't see a service pack until well into 2010...
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I guess we won't see a service pack until well into 2010...
That's okay, not like we need one immediately anyway.
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Moshpit, please try to keep things civil, even if you disagree with someone. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

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Are all of those for RTM? Or are some of them for RC and earlier? Also, some of them appear to possibly be dummy updates (tests).
these are the ones i got
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got a new update today for the RTM: KB974332

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