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Old Nov 3, 2019, 12:15 AM   #301
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AMD Preparing 2nd Generation Navi GPUs Based On 7nm+, Navi 21, 22 and 23 Spotted In Linux Driver Update


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Old Nov 9, 2019, 08:03 PM   #302
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU With Hardware Ray Tracing Rumored to Launch Next Year

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Old Nov 18, 2019, 10:47 AM   #303
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With RT or not. I really don't care about RT. I just want to see AMD to delivers a high-end GPU model.
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Old Nov 18, 2019, 11:51 AM   #304
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With RT or not. I really don't care about RT. I just want to see AMD to delivers a high-end GPU model.
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AMD To Introduce 2nd Generation rDNA Based Navi GPU Powered Radeon RX Lineup at CES 2020 With Ray Tracing & More
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•Optimized 7nm+ process node
•Enthusiast-grade desktop graphics card options
•Hardware-Level Ray Tracing Support
•A mix of GDDR6 and HBM2 graphics cards
•More power-efficient than First-Gen Navi GPUs
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It should also be pointed out that high-end Navi GPUs might retain High-Bandwidth memory design like the current flagship. While AMD is featuring GDDR6 memory on their mainstream RDNA based cards, it is likely that the company would go ahead with the newer HBM2E VRAM.

The HBM2E DRAM comes in 8-Hi stack configuration and utilizes 16 Gb memory dies, stacked together and clocked at 3.2 Gbps. This would result in a total bandwidth of 410 GB/s on a single and 920 GB/s with two HBM2E stacks which is just insane. To top it all, the DRAM has a 1024-bit wide bus interface which is the same as current HBM2 DRAM. Samsung says that their HBM2E solution, when stacked in 4-way configuration, can offer up to 64 GB memory at 1.64 TB/s of bandwidth. Such products would only be suitable for servers/HPC workloads but a high-end graphics product for enthusiasts can feature up to 32 GB memory with just two stacks which is twice as much memory as the Radeon VII.


https://wccftech.com/amd-2nd-gen-rdn...es-2020-rumor/

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Old Nov 20, 2019, 02:10 PM   #305
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I've been using a GTX1080 for the past 3 years. This has been my first and only nvidia card in my main gaming computer, I want to return to AMD and was looking into getting an Asus ROG Strix OC RX5700 XT for $570 here in Peru.

I only play at 4K and I still can't decide if its a good choice to change cards at this point consider what's coming, however, this is the eternal discussion, buy or wait.

What do you think? get one now or wait 9 months for the new cards to be available here?
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Old Nov 20, 2019, 02:56 PM   #306
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I've been using a GTX1080 for the past 3 years. This has been my first and only nvidia card in my main gaming computer, I want to return to AMD and was looking into getting an Asus ROG Strix OC RX5700 XT for $570 here in Peru.

I only play at 4K and I still can't decide if its a good choice to change cards at this point consider what's coming, however, this is the eternal discussion, buy or wait.

What do you think? get one now or wait 9 months for the new cards to be available here?
I'm in the same boat(running 1080 for years).
Thinking the RX5700 XT would be a ~15% FPS increase. Not worth it to me.
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I also think you should wait. The 5700 XT doesn't offer that much performance uplift over the 1080. The next version of Navi should. It also provides more time for the driver issues on the new hardware to be worked out.
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From all the reviews, it does provide 15% increase overall, not bad in my opinion. I "upgraded" from a CFX 290X setup to the 1080 and the performance increase was close to 0, basically I just migrated to not have to use multigpu due to some issues I was having back then.

Another thing to consider is the price, I can't imagine the new cards being cheaper than $700, that translates to around $850 here
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IMO if you wanted to upgrade to something worthwhile, i'd say skip a generation and then look at the product that is in the same segment as your current GPU.

Drawback is obviously you gotta wait a bit.

Otherwise you'll end up with a small performance increase, or a cheaper lower segment GPU that has caught up performance wise to what you currently have.
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From all the reviews, it does provide 15% increase overall, not bad in my opinion. I "upgraded" from a CFX 290X setup to the 1080 and the performance increase was close to 0, basically I just migrated to not have to use multigpu due to some issues I was having back then.

Another thing to consider is the price, I can't imagine the new cards being cheaper than $700, that translates to around $850 here
Ya but you have to think there might be some competition to drive down prices next year. Intel is coming out with its discrete gpus and the 7nm node will get more affordable.

My bet is navi 20 next summer with a good 50% bump in perf over what you have wont be that much more expensive than the 5700 was at release.
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I think I will just go with the 5700XT for now, next year, if the prices are right, I will get the new card.

PD: My wife just approved the transaction
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I just found a deal for a Radeon VII for around $130 more. The 5700XT I wanted is no longer available in Peru (sold out) but can get the Radeon VII from Amazon for around $700 delivered to my door in 2-3 days (including taxes)

Damn, it was much easier to buy video cards in the past

EDIT: found the Radeon VII today for $499 in Amazon, almost the same price as the 5700XT I was checking. The card delivered to my house is a total of $630 (including import taxes). I'm happy, it will last me all next year for sure!
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