Black Mesa v1.0 - Page 2

NIGELG · Nov 4, 2020, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlash

I didn't get a single crash in my 26 hours.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash7

I literally couldn't complete the game without some console commands. Would crash every time at the same place in Interloper.

Are you playing the new beta?

demo · Nov 5, 2020, 12:56 AM

No crashes here either, played perfectly, except rim light is a bit rough (white outlines on some edges).

Crash7 · Nov 5, 2020, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NIGELG

Are you playing the new beta?

Yes, but I haven't gotten to the areas with which I had problems before. Got my fingers crossed.

Crash7 · Nov 5, 2020, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by demo

No crashes here either, played perfectly, except rim light is a bit rough (white outlines on some edges).

I know I'm not alone with this problem. There's a 13 page thread about it in the Steam forums.

JohnnyFlash · Nov 9, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Crash7

I know I'm not alone with this problem. There's a 13 page thread about it in the Steam forums.

Turn off MSAA.

Crash7 · Nov 9, 2020, 05:41 PM

The source of the problem is already identified. It's not MSAA.

JohnnyFlash · Nov 10, 2020, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash7

The source of the problem is already identified. It's not MSAA.

Potentially, but that fixed it for me when I disabled it in the drivers.

Crash7 · Nov 19, 2020, 08:18 PM

Apparently, they did fix the "ed_alloc no free edicts" issue. I just played through Interloper with no issues other than dying a couple of times. And I saw another guy on the Steam forums (the same guy that gave me the console commands to work around the problem originally) mention that the problem had been fixed. But now I know from personal experience that it's been fixed.

I did get a bit of a slow down in Residue Processing in the conveyor belt sequence. That might have been that way before, though. It's been a long time since my original playthrough.

NIGELG · Nov 21, 2020, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash7

Apparently, they did fix the "ed_alloc no free edicts" issue. I just played through Interloper with no issues other than dying a couple of times. And I saw another guy on the Steam forums (the same guy that gave me the console commands to work around the problem originally) mention that the problem had been fixed. But now I know from personal experience that it's been fixed.

I did get a bit of a slow down in Residue Processing in the conveyor belt sequence. That might have been that way before, though. It's been a long time since my original playthrough.

I think I will wait until the game is out of the latest beta.

I already bought the game but I'll wait a bit longer to play.

Crash7 · Nov 21, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NIGELG

I think I will wait until the game is out of the latest beta.

I already bought the game but I'll wait a bit longer to play.

Yeah, that'd be my advice. I bought it when 1.0 came out. Gotta say, I was rather disappointed with the developers. A lot of people encountered a game breaking bug (the source of which had been identified) that sat there for several months unpatched. And the devs seemed to be too busy taking bows and patting themselves on the back to fix it. The only excuse I can come up with for it taking that long to be fixed is that they might have been reluctant to break players' saved games.

Nagorak · Nov 22, 2020, 10:41 PM

I added this to my wishlist since they finally finished it. Although I do find it a bit ironic that by the time the remake was actually done, it now looks fairly dated itself.

Guess they'll have to start working on another remake to be done in 2030...

Crash7 · Nov 25, 2020, 09:28 AM

Apparently, they released another beta version a couple of days ago. And broke the saved games again.

edit: On the bright side, they seem to have fixed the slow downs in Residue Processing.

OverclockN' · Jan 26, 2021, 09:51 PM

Man, I had fun for most of the levels in this game, but hooooly crap is it getting frustrating. Defnitely an old school game.

"We can't think of anything else to add this late in the game and are out of creativity. Let's just throw every enemy we have at them all at once, add in a bunch of pointless jumping and tedious puzzles, then do it for hours on end with very few clues on what to do to solve some of them"

As cool as Xen is, it started to get old after a while. They are just way overdoing it. Interloper though? Man...I haven't been this frustrated in a game for quite some time. It's just terrible and goes on forever.

/rant

Crash7 · Jan 27, 2021, 09:34 AM

Like a lot of games from back in the day, you're expected to make copious use of the quicksave key. You kind of get out of the habit of that, what with modern games and their checkpoints. I agree that Xen in general and Interloper in particular were too long. I got sick of looking at them. And for me, Interloper was quite buggy at first. They seemed to have fixed that recently, though.

**nutcrackr** · Jan 27, 2021, 07:02 PM

They went crazy over the top with Xen. Should have been half as long. That barrel segment was just horrible. But it was also horrible in the original so they captured the spirit.

Nagorak · Jan 27, 2021, 09:00 PM

When I got to Xen in the original I just ended up quitting.

OverclockN' · Jan 28, 2021, 09:47 AM

I beat the game yesterday. I give it an 8/10 overall, it really was quite good. But Xen and Interloper were just way overdone. The barrel segment in Interloper was the worst.

Like Crash mentioned, copious use of the save function gets you through. It doesn't make it any better though, it still loooooong. It's just nothing special to look at, which doesn't help at all.

Good remake though, otherwise.

KAC · Jan 28, 2021, 10:02 AM

Is this worth indulging in? I have had it on my wishlist for a while and I honestly don’t remember half life anymore. I do remember some stupid portals towards the end and an ugly boss to fight as last fight.

Is this remake a good one?

**acroig** · Jan 28, 2021, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KAC

Is this remake a good one?

As remakes go, yes.

theshadowcult · Jan 28, 2021, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by acroig

As remakes go, yes.

It really isnt. Ive gone back and replayed half life 1 a bunch of times over the years and its still great. It has its problems, and a few of them too, but the black mesa "remake" is total ****. It has some ok updated assests, and a lot of hard work put into it, but it has almost no "remakes" in any way. When it comes to gameplay anyway. I pointed out the replays because i wanted to show im not wearing any rose coloured glasses, but the black mesa remake is the first and only time ive not fininished a half life play through.

JohnnyFlash · Jan 29, 2021, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by theshadowcult

It really isnt. Ive gone back and replayed half life 1 a bunch of times over the years and its still great. It has its problems, and a few of them too, but the black mesa "remake" is total ****. It has some ok updated assests, and a lot of hard work put into it, but it has almost no "remakes" in any way. When it comes to gameplay anyway. I pointed out the replays because i wanted to show im not wearing any rose coloured glasses, but the black mesa remake is the first and only time ive not fininished a half life play through.

Respectful but complete disagreement. I think it did a great job of retaining the play style while updating it where it needed. I had a really good time with it and while Xen was longer than the original, I didn't hate it like I did in the original. Also, that final battle is money.

John C Flett · Jan 29, 2021, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by theshadowcult

It really isnt. Ive gone back and replayed half life 1 a bunch of times over the years and its still great. It has its problems, and a few of them too, but the black mesa "remake" is total ****. It has some ok updated assests, and a lot of hard work put into it, but it has almost no "remakes" in any way. When it comes to gameplay anyway. I pointed out the replays because i wanted to show im not wearing any rose coloured glasses, but the black mesa remake is the first and only time ive not fininished a half life play through.

It's been a few years since I replayed HL or HL source but my feelings were pretty much the same. It captured much of HL but the flow of the original gameplay wasn't there. I had no fun and gave up a bit over half way through.

**acroig** · Jan 29, 2021, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlash

Respectful but complete disagreement. I think it did a great job of retaining the play style while updating it where it needed. I had a really good time with it and while Xen was longer than the original, I didn't hate it like I did in the original. Also, that final battle is money.

I agree with this.

Crash7 · Jan 29, 2021, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlash

Respectful but complete disagreement. I think it did a great job of retaining the play style while updating it where it needed. I had a really good time with it and while Xen was longer than the original, I didn't hate it like I did in the original. Also, that final battle is money.

Agreed. Xen (Black Mesa version) was too long, but it didn't totally suck like it did in the original.

demo · Jan 30, 2021, 04:53 AM

I thought it was awesome, get off the crack. Or on it. Whatever.

NIGELG · Jan 31, 2021, 08:17 AM

Is the game out of beta?

**acroig** · Jan 31, 2021, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NIGELG

Is the game out of beta?

Yes, I think so.

John C Flett · Jan 31, 2021, 10:38 AM

November saw the "final big update" so I'd consider the game complete.

SubCog · Feb 18, 2021, 11:35 AM

Woot! Blue Shift mod announced. We should be playing this by 2035!

**nutcrackr** · Feb 18, 2021, 03:28 PM

Meh blue shift is the only bad half life game and a fair way below the others.

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Nov 5, 2020, 12:56 AM	#32
demo space cadet Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 27,322	No crashes here either, played perfectly, except rim light is a bit rough (white outlines on some edges). __________________ ____________________

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Nov 9, 2020, 05:41 PM	#36
Crash7 Radeon R700 Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 950	The source of the problem is already identified. It's not MSAA.

Nov 19, 2020, 08:18 PM	#38
Crash7 Radeon R700 Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 950	Apparently, they did fix the "ed_alloc no free edicts" issue. I just played through Interloper with no issues other than dying a couple of times. And I saw another guy on the Steam forums (the same guy that gave me the console commands to work around the problem originally) mention that the problem had been fixed. But now I know from personal experience that it's been fixed. I did get a bit of a slow down in Residue Processing in the conveyor belt sequence. That might have been that way before, though. It's been a long time since my original playthrough.

Nov 22, 2020, 10:41 PM	#41
Nagorak Incarnation of the Nether Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Amanackia Posts: 11,859	I added this to my wishlist since they finally finished it. Although I do find it a bit ironic that by the time the remake was actually done, it now looks fairly dated itself. Guess they'll have to start working on another remake to be done in 2030...

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Nov 25, 2020, 09:28 AM	#42
Crash7 Radeon R700 Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 950	Apparently, they released another beta version a couple of days ago. And broke the saved games again. edit: On the bright side, they seem to have fixed the slow downs in Residue Processing. Last edited by Crash7 : Nov 27, 2020 at 10:23 PM.

Jan 26, 2021, 09:51 PM	#43
OverclockN' Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Iowa Posts: 24,565	Man, I had fun for most of the levels in this game, but hooooly crap is it getting frustrating. Defnitely an old school game. "We can't think of anything else to add this late in the game and are out of creativity. Let's just throw every enemy we have at them all at once, add in a bunch of pointless jumping and tedious puzzles, then do it for hours on end with very few clues on what to do to solve some of them" As cool as Xen is, it started to get old after a while. They are just way overdoing it. Interloper though? Man...I haven't been this frustrated in a game for quite some time. It's just terrible and goes on forever. /rant __________________

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Jan 27, 2021, 09:34 AM	#44
Crash7 Radeon R700 Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 950	Like a lot of games from back in the day, you're expected to make copious use of the quicksave key. You kind of get out of the habit of that, what with modern games and their checkpoints. I agree that Xen in general and Interloper in particular were too long. I got sick of looking at them. And for me, Interloper was quite buggy at first. They seemed to have fixed that recently, though.

Jan 27, 2021, 07:02 PM	#45
nutcrackr OT Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: over the rainbow, way up high Posts: 16,091	They went crazy over the top with Xen. Should have been half as long. That barrel segment was just horrible. But it was also horrible in the original so they captured the spirit.

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Jan 27, 2021, 09:00 PM	#46
Nagorak Incarnation of the Nether Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Amanackia Posts: 11,859	When I got to Xen in the original I just ended up quitting.

Jan 28, 2021, 09:47 AM	#47
OverclockN' Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Iowa Posts: 24,565	I beat the game yesterday. I give it an 8/10 overall, it really was quite good. But Xen and Interloper were just way overdone. The barrel segment in Interloper was the worst. Like Crash mentioned, copious use of the save function gets you through. It doesn't make it any better though, it still loooooong. It's just nothing special to look at, which doesn't help at all. Good remake though, otherwise. __________________

Jan 28, 2021, 10:02 AM	#48
KAC RGB mofo, do you have it! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lahore Posts: 62,205	Is this worth indulging in? I have had it on my wishlist for a while and I honestly don’t remember half life anymore. I do remember some stupid portals towards the end and an ugly boss to fight as last fight. Is this remake a good one?

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Jan 30, 2021, 04:53 AM	#55
demo space cadet Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 27,322	I thought it was awesome, get off the crack. Or on it. Whatever. __________________ ____________________

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Jan 31, 2021, 10:38 AM	#58
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Feb 18, 2021, 03:28 PM	#60
nutcrackr OT Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: over the rainbow, way up high Posts: 16,091	Meh blue shift is the only bad half life game and a fair way below the others.

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