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Old Feb 20, 2011, 05:08 PM   #1
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Take 2: Mafia III to be released in a few Years,

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you guys excited?


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Old Feb 20, 2011, 06:02 PM   #2
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Not at all. There was a lot of hype around Mafia 2, and it turned out to be a cheap copy of GTA that look and felt like it belongs in a bargain bin.
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WTF is wrong with textures and polycount???
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Exactly what Och said.

For anyone who was a big fan of Mafia, Mafia 2 just didn't cut the mustard. Obviously it had it's strong points and was fairly enjoyable, but I have a hard time comparing it in any serious sense to the original game. It was trying to be something it wasn't... ie; GTA clone #90210. Mafia 1 had so much more depth, more interesting characters, a better story and more enjoyable gameplay all round.

Maybe if they have a completely different intent with Mafia 3 (like, "Sorry we screwed up such a potentially fantastic sequel, here's the REAL Mafia 2!"), I'd be more excited. But this just seems to me like a CoD-style quick draw knockoff - get another sequel out as fast as possible to continue where the original abruptly left off, as cheaply and quickly as possible. Games like that lack soul.

So nah, not excited. Quite the opposite; I'm sad.
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I really liked Mafia 2 even if it didn't meet the expectations set by the original Mafia, so I'm looking forward to Mafia 3 in hopes that they'll do a better job next time. What I liked most about Mafia 2 was the atmosphere and storyline.
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Not at all. There was a lot of hype around Mafia 2, and it turned out to be a cheap copy of GTA that look and felt like it belongs in a bargain bin.
Agree partially. The game was fun and I actually ended up completing it. I guess it was very much like if you had taken a very small portion of GTA4 and changed the characters, setting etc. You seem very confined to doing one thing, but I liked it.
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Old Feb 21, 2011, 01:34 PM   #8
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i never beat Mafia I, but it was rather enjoyable and since i already read the storyline there is no point in going back to finish it (right?)

but i enjoyed Mafia II except for the very abrupt ending... seems like the story could actually go on for quite a bit longer... i really didn't expect the ending ...

but i liked how there was the Tommy Angelo mission!
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I enjoyed Mafia 2, the graphics were good, voice acting was good, the story unfolded nicely with a big suprise, the muisc on the radio's is good.

The only things I didn't like was how short it was, and certain gameplay elements from the first game were just missing in 2. Also the DLC is pretty much a borefest.

Look forward to the next one.
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I think what made Mafia 1 so special was how the directors of the game allowed you to know each character 1 to 1. Like on how you did various missions with them, learn't their thoughts, feelings, weaknesses and their personal history. In Mafia2 they did the opposite. Its was just do this mission with characters you didn't give a rats ass about.

I think what they need to get right in M3 is try not to be like its competitors. They need be different on how GTA3 and M1 were two completely different games. Similar to how SR and GTA4 are two completely different games. They also need to work on their character development. The pacing in M2 was way off. Pacing IMO, is one of the most important aspects in any single player game. Don't give us to much and don't give us too little. But keep it at a pace that makes the story more interesting. In M2 I would of loved to learn more about Vitos mother and especially his sister. Why not have a few missions where you take the mother or sister to work to learn more about them. Or have some missions where you can play as Vito as a kid, learning more about how rough it was for him growing up in a such a tough town. Little things like this makes the story 100 times better. I really hope they get it right on the next one.

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I guess i'm in the minority of those who weren't dissapointed by mafia II?

it wasn't a perfect sequel, but a 14 hour action game in the era of 4 hour games is good enough for me.

This is great news, especially since spindoctor had me convinced theres no chance for a sequel... take that spin!
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I really liked Mafia 2 even if it didn't meet the expectations set by the original Mafia, so I'm looking forward to Mafia 3 in hopes that they'll do a better job next time. What I liked most about Mafia 2 was the atmosphere and storyline.
Agreed.

I like the first one more, but I really enjoyed Mafia II also exceptfor the extremely abrupt ending that seemed to come out of nowhere. Looking forward to the next game in the series.
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I guess i'm in the minority of those who weren't dissapointed by mafia II?

it wasn't a perfect sequel, but a 14 hour action game in the era of 4 hour games is good enough for me.

This is great news, especially since spindoctor had me convinced theres no chance for a sequel... take that spin!
most games in this era are 4-hours?

sad...
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most games in this era are 4-hours?

sad...
Not really. A lot of people blaze through games or exaggerate the short playtime. I find most games to be 8-15hours. I consider 8hrs still on the really short side.
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Mafia is dead. It lays buried next to Far Cry.
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most games in this era are 4-hours?

sad...
well its a bit of a hyperbole, but there are a lot of 4-6 hour action games i've played in the past few years, and the majority i've played are sub 8 hours. I would understand if I rushed or played on easy, but 99% of games i pick the most difficult setting and explore everything.
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This is great news, especially since spindoctor had me convinced theres no chance for a sequel... take that spin!
i'm still convinced there's no chance for a sequel . the game didn't have a very positive reception amongst critics or gamers and it didn't sell all that well either after a 6 year development period.

i'd love to be wrong though... the game was great and it deserved more success than it got.
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I loved Mafia 2. It's not often that I finish a game, but this one I ate up in just a couple weeks. I haven't even come close to getting all the things like the playboys or the wanted posters or getting all the achievements but I think eventually I will go back and do some of that.


I really really really want to know what happened to Vito and Joe. I'm hoping that some DLC comes out to tell that story or that Mafia 3 continues that story.
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sad...
Yeah, maybe on iOS. let's not get carried away with our gamer-centric self pity.

The majority of current games average around 8-16 hours, with only the occasional 4-6 hours game thrown in. There are a lot more games that average over 20 hours though and some that average around 60-100s of hours. So all in all, it is all about waiting for a game to hit a price point where the enjoyment of the game outweighs the cost.

In my opinion, oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas, TDU2, Burnout Paradise, Civ 5, Dragon Age and other such huge games are more than worth the $50-$60 original price tag and I would have paid even $80 if I had to, given their contribution to my leisure time enjoyment. However, other games that offer a paltry (6-10 hours) but awesome single player experience usually end up being worth about $20-$30 to me, so I will usually wait for a sale, with the occasional exception of course. I just don't like paying $50-$60 for a 8 hour single-player experience, but usually $20-$30 is fine if it is a great enough experience, even if it is a bit shorter than average. Hell, a bluray copy of a movie is going to be around that much, and I almost never re-watch movies anymore.

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Agree completely. It's extremely rare that I'll buy a game on release for $50-$60. However, games like Fallout 3 I'll buy without a 2nd thought. The amount of entertainment, in hours, easily justifies the money spent.
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Agree completely. It's extremely rare that I'll buy a game on release for $50-$60. However, games like Fallout 3 I'll buy without a 2nd thought. The amount of entertainment, in hours, easily justifies the money spent.
It often amazes me that they are at the same price-point, but I suppose that many games do a pretty good job of making a mind blowing, if short, singleplayer experience. Still though, it is hard to justify a full price of $60, even for an amazing ride.
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I think what made Mafia 1 so special was how the directors of the game allowed you to know each character 1 to 1. Like on how you did various missions with them, learn't their thoughts, feelings, weaknesses and their personal history. In Mafia2 they did the opposite. Its was just do this mission with characters you didn't give a rats ass about.

I think what they need to get right in M3 is try not to be like its competitors. They need be different on how GTA3 and M1 were two completely different games. Similar to how SR and GTA4 are two completely different games. They also need to work on their character development. The pacing in M2 was way off. Pacing IMO, is one of the most important aspects in any single player game. Don't give us to much and don't give us too little. But keep it at a pace that makes the story more interesting. In M2 I would of loved to learn more about Vitos mother and especially his sister. Why not have a few missions where you take the mother or sister to work to learn more about them. Or have some missions where you can play as Vito as a kid, learning more about how rough it was for him growing up in a such a tough town. Little things like this makes the story 100 times better. I really hope they get it right on the next one.
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Mix of Mafia I and II footage.
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I thought Mafia 2 was really bad and boring, if It didn't have somewhat nice graphics and PhysX than It would seem as it was an amateur indie game IMO.
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So cars blowing up super easily when bumped into like we saw at E3 is because it's part of a perk that can be unlocked?

It looks good though.
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Watch from 11:15 onwards. He says that for this demo they made things explode easily because they were revealing the game but "not all cars are going to explode when you bump them". It still requires grenade launchers etc..

It may be that only enemy AI vehicles are easy to destroy but they didn't clarify it.
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So basically they advertise the game falsely because people love explosions?
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It could be a mission where all the vehicles are filled with nitro glycerine

There was a mission like that in the original as I recall...
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