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Old Jun 11, 2013, 12:52 PM   #121
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you gotta go to their profile page, just click crash's name and you'll get there.
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 12:52 PM   #122
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Poor guy is probably the most ignored member of the forum by now.
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 01:14 PM   #123
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honestly, its his own fault. too many patronizing posts and information twisting will do that. the fact he works for microsoft and thus has a more financially invested interest just seeps into his posts and no one likes that kind of bullshit.

i'm sure he's a nice guy in real life but the blatant pr stuff just needs to stop.
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Honestly some of you guys are having a hard time reading what crash is saying with your ps4 visor on..

whatever floats your boat.
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 01:18 PM   #125
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honestly, its his own fault. too many patronizing posts and information twisting will do that. the fact he works for microsoft and thus has a more financially invested interest just seeps into his posts and no one likes that kind of bullshit.

i'm sure he's a nice guy in real life but the blatant pr stuff just needs to stop.
I don't work for Microsoft. I contract myself out to the industry and work for whoever has the projects I like working on.

Usually that has ended up being Microsoft, but I've done all sorts of other things.

I have no financial interest in any of this.

Also the staff have made it clear that the personal posts are to stop.
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 01:19 PM   #126
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honestly, its his own fault. too many patronizing posts and information twisting will do that. the fact he works for microsoft and thus has a more financially invested interest just seeps into his posts and no one likes that kind of bullshit.

i'm sure he's a nice guy in real life but the blatant pr stuff just needs to stop.
Uh yeah...well, but I think it's too early to say about Sony and MS. I just need to wait until they're both release and more official information to be just real.
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 01:23 PM   #127
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Uh yeah...well, but I think it's too early to say about Sony and MS. I just need to wait until they're both release and more official information to be just real.
Indeed, and that's all I recommend to folks. Research and get what suits you best. Don't treat rumor and speculation as fact...and don't trust what corporations tell you without doing the research.

There's good and bad things about both sides in this generation. For me it's all going to boil down to who has the games I want to play.

I already know of some Xbox One titles I want. There were some titles that we had assumed were PS4 exclusive so a pre-order was happening there as well. It turned out those titles were not exclusive.

I am still heavily tempted by Infamous: Second Son however. I have a special place in my heart for games based in Washington.
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 01:33 PM   #128
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I don't work for Microsoft. I contract myself out to the industry and work for whoever has the projects I like working on.

Usually that has ended up being Microsoft, but I've done all sorts of other things.

I have no financial interest in any of this.

Also the staff have made it clear that the personal posts are to stop.
you're reading the wrong forums if you thought that was personal.
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Well this is a bummer.. The game I wanted on my PS3 and never saw..

Last Guardian officially 'on hiatus'

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/11/th...-is-on-hiatus/
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Well this is a bummer.. The game I wanted on my PS3 and never saw..

Last Guardian officially 'on hiatus'

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/11/th...-is-on-hiatus/
"We got so many projects out there from so many great teams, projects never ultimately go away," Tretton said. "So The Last Guardian is certainly not going away, but it's on hiatus right now."

Why do I get the feeling that later he will clarify this to mean that they don't intend to have it made themselves, but any other publisher can do so if they want to.
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Sorry if this has been posted guys - I'm not reading page after page of debates to look for it.

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/gam...tion-4-1132657

No support for PS3 games on the PS4. Yet.

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Old games new

That doesn't just bode well for the catalogue of PS3 games you own, either.

We could see first-gen PlayStation games could be streamed via the cloud to the PS Vita, or PlayStation 2 games streamed to the PS4, and vice versa.

For now, that technology is only but a hope of what Gaikai and Sony can accomplish together, and is far from a guaranteed feature of the PlayStation Network.


It was another in a line of promised potential for the PlayStation 4, but one that should have gamers optimistic about the future of not just cloud gaming, but maintaining deep catalogs of forgotten classics.
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Sorry if this has been posted guys - I'm not reading page after page of debates to look for it.

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/gam...tion-4-1132657

No support for PS3 games on the PS4. Yet.


Possible deal breaker if the below tech doesn't pan out.


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That's an old report. They clarified more about their cloud strategy for older titles last night.
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That's an old report. They clarified more about their cloud strategy for older titles last night.
Ah thanks - still catching up on everything.
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I have not seen it mentioned before here in this thread, but do these announcements sound like the exact opposite of both company's strategies with the 360/PS3 with the only exception being they are launching in the same time frame? Seems MS has copped Sony's attitude prior to the PS3 launch with all the success they had with the PS2 and thinking they would win this generation just by showing up. Sony seems to be more like MS was when the 360 launched with something to prove and marketshare to gain when you take features and system specs/games into consideration. I think Sony has a real opportunity here to gain quick marketshare and definitely force MS to re-think their strategy where Sony has clear advantages. It is a long way to go to even launch date and even longer to see who is going to win this generation, but Sony has not hurt themselves in the least with this E3....welcome back to the party Sony.
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I have not seen it mentioned before here in this thread, but do these announcements sound like the exact opposite of both company's strategies with the 360/PS3 with the only exception being they are launching in the same time frame? Seems MS has copped Sony's attitude prior to the PS3 launch with all the success they had with the PS2 and thinking they would win this generation just by showing up. Sony seems to be more like MS was when the 360 launched with something to prove and marketshare to gain when you take features and system specs/games into consideration. I think Sony has a real opportunity here to gain quick marketshare and definitely force MS to re-think their strategy where Sony has clear advantages. It is a long way to go to even launch date and even longer to see who is going to win this generation, but Sony has not hurt themselves in the least with this E3....welcome back to the party Sony.

Are you feeling ok?

I mean this post is spot on, but I didn't expect you to be the poster.

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Region free as well it seems.

which is great for imports.
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Region free as well it seems.

which is great for imports.
No different than PS3, which also was not region locked. They left it up to publishers. AFAIK only one managed to do it though, and that was Atlus with Persona 4 Arena.
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No different than PS3, which also was not region locked. They left it up to publishers. AFAIK only one managed to do it though, and that was Atlus with Persona 4 Arena.
Not only that, but you were able to have PSN accounts for all 3 major regions, which was convenient for certain region locked demos or other region specific content.
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http://imgur.com/a/zSN57

the only thing behind the paywall on PS+ is the multiplayer.

netflix and everything else work exactly like they do on the ps3 (free, other then having a sub with them)

so still a 100% better system then xbox live.
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Not only that, but you were able to have PSN accounts for all 3 major regions, which was convenient for certain region locked demos or other region specific content.
Indeed. I am aware, since I have those accounts set up.

I think I did it around the time one of the Yakuza demos showed up in JP.
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Price difference reminds me of this ...



Must be nice to be able to do a presentation where pretty much maintaining the status quo brings down the house. Add Microsoft's unfriendly consumer inroads and Sony has a pretty low bar this generation.

I've never owned a Playstation - always had either Nintendo or Xbox. We'll see what the launch looks like but as of right now I think the odds are that I'll be going PS4 if and when I get another console.
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I mean this post is spot on, but I didn't expect you to be the poster.

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I'm fine. Facts are hard to ignore. I'm in favor of either system that is best for my needs as most of us are. Right now, the nod for me goes to the PS4, but a lot can change between now and then. I have enjoyed my 360 experience for the handful of games I have time to play. It just seems that both companies have experienced a role reversal compared to the current gen launch and I don't think I am the only one thinking this....
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Was there any talk about fixing the beyond slow download speeds from their network?

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Hard drive is upgradeable as well in the Ps4.
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Hard drive is upgradeable as well in the Ps4.
I believe the Xbox one can have an external hard drive fitted. Which is good because 500gig is going to go no where if your installing all your games.
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Was there any talk about fixing the beyond slow download speeds from their network?
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PS3 is absolutely terrible for downloads and every time I turn the thing on it wants to update either the OS or the game I want to play - greayyytt lets wait 45 mins for that to download and install...

Only time I have had to wait that long on the 360 is to download a full game.

Also what about the lame arse needing double the space of the download to install. Ohhh 20gb available on my drive - download is 13gb - but I can't download as I don't have enough room? WTF?

I need to know they have fixed that crap before I go PS4 - maybe that's what the monthly fee for Playstation+ to play online is for now, so they can do it properly like MS did with Live.
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