Microsoft Edge Chrome

Nascar24 · Apr 10, 2019, 09:14 PM

Microsoft Dev Edge Chrome now available to test....

https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download/

I have been using the current edge as my daily driver for a while now.

Payne3d · Apr 11, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar24

Microsoft Dev Edge Chrome now available to test....

https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download/

I have been using the current edge as my daily driver for a while now.

very cool . but why? is microsoft ditching their own browser?

VW_Factor · Apr 11, 2019, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Payne3d

very cool . but why? is microsoft ditching their own browser?

As I understand it, Chromium web standards are becoming more prevalent and the standard MS Edge browser of course doesn't follow those standards, so some parts of web browsing simply didn't work on Edge.

Easy solution is just use Chromium as the engine for a new browser..

Makes sense to me. However, it would be nice if MS didn't try to make all their own "standards" like with that Silverlight crap, etc. I believe thats what created this rift in web standards to begin with.

The browser wars will wage on for some time.

Payne3d · Apr 12, 2019, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by VW_Factor

As I understand it, Chromium web standards are becoming more prevalent and the standard MS Edge browser of course doesn't follow those standards, so some parts of web browsing simply didn't work on Edge.

Easy solution is just use Chromium as the engine for a new browser..

Makes sense to me. However, it would be nice if MS didn't try to make all their own "standards" like with that Silverlight crap, etc. I believe thats what created this rift in web standards to begin with.

The browser wars will wage on for some time.

google is getting way too powerful. i like chrome because of the amount of extensions available but google could get rid of the ones they don't like tomorrow .

looks like MS has completely given up on their own browser, and once they switch over to the Chrome version full-time, i have a feeling Google will clean house.

Mahjik · Apr 12, 2019, 11:51 AM

It's not like MS hasn't tried to own the browser market themselves.... They've been dictating their "own" net standards for years, and let's not forget them being caught purposely ruining Netscape back in the day.

Nascar24 · Apr 12, 2019, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Payne3d

very cool . but why? is microsoft ditching their own browser?

Yes, they announced a while ago they were going this route.

Greasy · Apr 13, 2019, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Payne3d

very cool . but why? is microsoft ditching their own browser?

MS stated that they were doing this, because google was constantly changing things that broke stuff in EDGE. Guess they figured F it, we'll just go chromium, so you can't break our browser anymore.

VW_Factor · Apr 13, 2019, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Greasy

MS stated that they were doing this, because google was constantly changing things that broke stuff in EDGE. Guess they figured F it, we'll just go chromium, so you can't break our browser anymore.

I don't think it was so much Google, as the features and web "standards" that Edge claimed to support, was either buggy or partially implemented. Practices that carried over from IE11 "development standards".

Any standard website should/would pull up looking nearly identically in FF/Opera/Chrome, etc. Try pulling it up in Edge, and things just looked different, or broken..

Given the slew of other browsers including mobile platforms that rendered correctly, something, something, Microsoft.

Nagorak · Apr 14, 2019, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mahjik

It's not like MS hasn't tried to own the browser market themselves.... They've been dictating their "own" net standards for years, and let's not forget them being caught purposely ruining Netscape back in the day.

MS is no good guy either. But it's ironic how the monopolistic giants of yesterday are being supplanted by new ones today.

It wasn't good when MS dominated everything, and now it's not good that Google does. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

metroidfox · Apr 22, 2019, 10:58 PM

This is a reason to switch to Firefox. It's the only other major browser engine remaining.

t3hl33td4rg0n · Apr 23, 2019, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by VW_Factor

Any standard website should/would pull up looking nearly identically in FF/Opera/Chrome, etc. Try pulling it up in Edge, and things just looked different, or broken..

Given my experience developing between the major browsers, most things I've have developed worked right out of the gate with Edge, not everything, but very close. Things that didn't work quite right were usually very minor to correct. More often than not, Safari has been the troublesome browser, where it works everywhere else. Safari is the new IE.

ASCI Blue · Apr 26, 2019, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nagorak

MS is no good guy either. But it's ironic how the monopolistic giants of yesterday are being supplanted by new ones today.

It wasn't good when MS dominated everything, and now it's not good that Google does. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

By no means is this new IBM had Microsoft firmly under foot until the 80's. If it wasn't for litigation, we'd all be running OS/2 in some form.

Munkus · Aug 22, 2019, 03:06 PM

The beta is out. I'm trying it now. Pretty good so far, no issues. Don't think it will be come my daily driver just yet, but it has potential.

Ryo-Ohki · Aug 25, 2019, 06:14 AM

I've been toying around with the dev channel version for 1 month+ on Windows 8.1. Nice, fast and stable so far. I use the "old" Edge at work on Win10, rendering is A-OK but I find it pretty much a mess, UI wise, this one is muck sleeker (luckily we have the option to install FF).

Not switching from Firefox for personal use though...

lmchv · Aug 26, 2019, 11:38 AM

I've used Edge since the beginning with some compatibility issues every now and then.

Sadly it's not compatible with most of the services we use in our company and had to still rely on Internet Explorer for those, that's about to change though.

I'll push the new Edge as the company standard as soon as it exits it's dev stage, I've been using the Canary branch and works great so far.

Galmok · Aug 28, 2019, 02:48 PM

Did Google remove stuff from Chrome to prevent ads being blocked? At least I read that they would do that.

https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/0...-adblock-apis/

Munkus · Jan 17, 2020, 04:36 PM

FYI it's out of beta now. I like it, but the reason why I left Google Chrome is because of all the Google spyware/tracking built into it. Not sure if I just traded one Big Brother for another, or not.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge

t3hl33td4rg0n · Jan 17, 2020, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by t3hl33td4rg0n

Given my experience developing between the major browsers, most things I've have developed worked right out of the gate with Edge, not everything, but very close. Things that didn't work quite right were usually very minor to correct. More often than not, Safari has been the troublesome browser, where it works everywhere else. Safari is the new IE.

Just a little update on this. I have recently worked on some very design heavy sites and ran into some Edge (not chromium) specific issues that I wanted to point out.

CSS clip-path using polygon()

Just straight up doesn't work like it does in every other browser. To compound on that, Edge falsely says that it supports a polygon() value, when it doesn't. As a fallback, you can supply an SVG element ID containing the values, but it still doesn't clip the target element like it's supposed to.

CSS animations that are using translate, scale, and transition with some JS sprinkled in: Nope, not unless you want your web-page to look like it's having a seizure

I also ran into a weird flexbox issue that is only broken in Edge, but can't remember what it was ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

In any case, I'm glad MS is throwing in the towel. It's a shame we can't make IE go away too

gamefoo21 · Jan 20, 2020, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Galmok

Did Google remove stuff from Chrome to prevent ads being blocked? At least I read that they would do that.

https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/0...-adblock-apis/

Google is still trying to break adblocking and they are trying to force it into chromium, so it'll affect all of browsers running on it, unless they fork.

Chredge actually works really well and I prefer it to Chrome, seems to pack less bloat and it's modified by MS, so it's not just a skin.

Munkus · Jan 21, 2020, 03:00 PM

I ended up switching back to Firefox. Edge Chromium is decent in most respects, but I found a few websites that were missing controls for embedded video and audio (like FF, RW, pause, full-screen, quality, etc). They work fine in Firefox. Oh well.

gamefoo21 · Jan 22, 2020, 10:22 AM

I'm wondering if it's because the sites are trying to push 'Edge' versions and the Chromium bowser engine is like wuuut?

I run...

WEdge
ChrEdge
Flaw Fox

I like my pet names.

A2597 · Jan 22, 2020, 11:29 AM

I never left firefox. Don't see it happening anytime soon.

Nascar24 · Jan 24, 2020, 05:55 PM

Its now my daily driver, The original Edge was my daily driver before that so eh.

bill dennison · Feb 4, 2020, 07:03 PM

better than the original Edge

but I'm still used to IE but it's dying, youtube is dropping it now

**shrike126** · Feb 5, 2020, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bill dennison

better than the original Edge

but I'm still used to IE but it's dying, youtube is dropping it now

So you're the one...

Sasquach · Feb 6, 2020, 12:35 PM

Can't beat em, join em!

bill dennison · Feb 7, 2020, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by shrike126

So you're the one...

I still miss netscape navigator

Treeckcold57 · Feb 7, 2020, 10:08 PM

I do use Edge, Edge with modified Chromium, and Firefox ESR with disabled telemetry and pocket extension (Switched from FF Quantum to this).

**nutcrackr** · Feb 10, 2020, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bill dennison

I still miss netscape navigator

NN was a beast

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Aug 22, 2019, 03:06 PM	#13
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Ryo-Ohki Cabbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Masaki Shrine Posts: 2,481	I've been toying around with the dev channel version for 1 month+ on Windows 8.1. Nice, fast and stable so far. I use the "old" Edge at work on Win10, rendering is A-OK but I find it pretty much a mess, UI wise, this one is muck sleeker (luckily we have the option to install FF). Not switching from Firefox for personal use though... __________________ If all else fails, just ARK the problem.

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Jan 22, 2020, 10:22 AM	#21
gamefoo21 Rage Furry X Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 9,484	I'm wondering if it's because the sites are trying to push 'Edge' versions and the Chromium bowser engine is like wuuut? I run... WEdge ChrEdge Flaw Fox I like my pet names. __________________ "Curiosity is the very basis of education and if you tell me that curiosity killed the cat, I say only that the cat died nobly." - Arnold Edinborough Heatware

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Feb 4, 2020, 07:03 PM	#24
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