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Old Apr 15, 2019, 01:08 AM   #3151
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We waited two years for that?
Honestly, I think that kind of thinking is what ruined the show in season 7. I don't really know why a show that built up such a following on a methodically placed show suddenly felt they needed to go for quick spectacle with no real build up in season 7.

This episode was anti-climactic, but I think every season opener has been. This episode pretty much did what it had to do, establish all the characters and bring them together.

Probably the big moment in the episode was the dragon flying scene. But it came off as the worst. Mostly because the CGI didn't look very good. The dragon riding has never been particularly good. They has always been the jokes around about The Neverending Story and I can't stop thinking about it when I see the dragon riding.

But, storywise, I'm fine with it. Maybe a little dumb for him to risk his life doing it. And to regurgitate what D&D said after the episode, it shows their relationship a bit again, and gives evidence to Jon about what Sam told him.

I wish they would have given Euron a scene like that last season. Not that he was great or anything. But he never really had any quiet, normal-person scenes. He was essentially a cartoon villain right from when they introduced him.

I did think they dealt with the Yara rescue a little too quickly and easily. Not sure what the point of it was, if she's going to just go away and Theon is going to go North. They could have just killed her and had Theon go North. I suppose they had to have him do something a little heroic.

I can't really think of any character interactions that felt out of place or stupid. They mostly acted the way you'd expect given the circumstances.

And, most importantly, they brought back some tits and gratuitous violence. Having a kid staked to the wall and then burn is the sort of limits-pushing stuff that I want to see. I'm expecting most bloggers to talk about how they are 'so done with the show' because they showed that.

Jaime was kind of underused. He's a character that I expect to die, so for a guy that might not make it to the last episode, to not have him in the first is a lot of time off-screen for a major character.
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Old Apr 15, 2019, 02:13 AM   #3152
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Watched it. Thought it was good. I try not to overthink things like this.

I just hope that it ends well. There are a lot of people critiquing every little thing that happens. I don't really care what they think. I'm just enjoying a really well done show.

That being said, please please please please don't end like season 9 of Scrubs or How I Met Your Mother..........
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Ghost still nowhere to be seen.
Please someone think of the dire wolves.
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I read so many stories of people complaining about the cringe worthy episode -- I just sat back and enjoyed it. I enjoyed everyone getting back together while they are still alive -- there will be lots of time to Martin to slaughter everyone we love so why to people have to complain about one fluffy episode? I hate people.
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People started complaining before the episode even aired.

The series still shows top quality production and quality. Only wish these episodes were 3 hours long
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Old Apr 15, 2019, 08:46 AM   #3156
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Honestly, I think that kind of thinking is what ruined the show in season 7. I don't really know why a show that built up such a following on a methodically placed show suddenly felt they needed to go for quick spectacle with no real build up in season 7.
It wasn't a bad episode....everyone recall what I posted above about things getting hyped so much they couldn't possibly live up to the hype.


Glad to see there will maybe be a Tormund/Brienne (re)union

Was it just me or are they going to start a Arya/Gendry thing?

Sansa is getting on my nerves again. Die already. Same with Theon.

Will the sellsword Bronn develop a conscience finally?

Looking forward to the Jaime/Bran conversation....
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Old Apr 15, 2019, 08:52 AM   #3157
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Last night's episode felt right. A few subtle potentially brewing conflicts that had the groundwork laid in the first episode (see: Jon learning he's a Targaryen). But the rest of the episode was what it was supposed to be. A series of interesting meetings where we get all these characters back together again after so long apart.

I completely missed it though where Bran earlier in the episode is like: "I'm waiting for an old friend." And then at the end we have Jaime step into the courtyard and see Bran like
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Old Apr 15, 2019, 11:38 AM   #3158
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Very good episode. Not sure what is the issue people had with it.
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Old Apr 15, 2019, 01:54 PM   #3159
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Was good. I expect this season to build quickly and go for it over the last few episodes.
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My only issue is that it seems impossible to satisfy so many plot lines in such a short final season. I am afraid many resolutions are going to be quick and not well formed. (Theon/Yara in this episode as an example). I guess that we did complain that it often took multiple seasons in the past to resolve simple storylines so I guess we get compressed storytelling to end it all.
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My only issue is that it seems impossible to satisfy so many plot lines in such a short final season. I am afraid many resolutions are going to be quick and not well formed. (Theon/Yara in this episode as an example). I guess that we did complain that it often took multiple seasons in the past to resolve simple storylines so I guess we get compressed storytelling to end it all.
I think that there will be a lot of characters that are going to die in the battle that is surely coming with the white walkers.

That will end a lot of plot lines quickly.
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Sansa is getting on my nerves again. Die already.
Her issues literally make ZERO sense, but they have to manufacture drama somehow I guess. She was great as the abused and passed-around pawn but now as she has some sway it's like they (the writers) don't know what to do with her.
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The series still shows top quality production and quality. Only wish these episodes were 3 hours long
Too lazy to find the link again, but apparently AT&T (or maybe someone else) had the episode available 4 hours early.

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It wasn't a bad episode....everyone recall what I posted above about things getting hyped so much they couldn't possibly live up to the hype.


Glad to see there will maybe be a Tormund/Brienne (re)union

Was it just me or are they going to start a Arya/Gendry thing?

Sansa is getting on my nerves again. Die already. Same with Theon.

Will the sellsword Bronn develop a conscience finally?

Looking forward to the Jaime/Bran conversation....
Didn't meant to come off as a dick with my comment. Sorry.

It always just kind of surprises me that so many people are fans of the show, and then when the show does pretty much what it always has, people seem disappointed that there wasn't enough happening. But, yeah, easily the most frustrating thing about season 7 and now 8 is how they rushed the ending with fewer episodes.

There were some comments from the actor who plays Bronn that fans are going to hate him after this season. I'd be surprised if he tried to kill Jaime or Tyrion given their past history. But Cersei has so few allies in the show (basically Bronn, Euron, Qyburn, the Mountain and the new Strickland guy) that maybe they need someone to act for her.

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Her issues literally make ZERO sense, but they have to manufacture drama somehow I guess. She was great as the abused and passed-around pawn but now as she has some sway it's like they (the writers) don't know what to do with her.
I'm not sure if the show really established whether people in the north actually believe Jon about the walkers. We kind of assume they do. Sansa seems to buy into Bran's vision so I assume she does as well. Her issues would make more sense if she didn't totally buy into the northern threat and she's more worried about the throne. But, yeah, the manufactured drama was a problem last season too with Sansa and Arya.

Still, I'm not sure how the show will manage to deal with all the political characters. I expect a lot of battles to end the series. There really isn't a lot of time to have the good political drama from earlier seasons in only 5 episodes.

Actually, it seems kind of strange that Dany would even bring a person like Varys along.
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This episode was meet the idiots who gonna die.
Next episode is Lannister’s public defamation and idiots dying in battle.
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I'm sorry but I don't see how anyone could think that episode was "good." At best it was a place setter to put the characters back on the gameboard in their places to proceed to the finale. Mostly it was boring melodrama, and the dragon flying scenes with Dani and Snow were some of the corniest crap I've seen on GoT. It was pretty much a live-action How to Train Your Dragon, but maybe with worse CGI.

3/10 this series continues to tank.

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I'm sorry but I don't see how anyone could think that episode was "good." At best it was a place setter to put the characters back on the gameboard in their places to proceed to the finale. Mostly it was boring melodrama, and the dragon flying scenes with Dani and Snow were some of the corniest crap I've seen on GoT. It was pretty much a live-action How to Train Your Dragon, but maybe with worse CGI.

3/10 this series continues to tank.

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I'm sorry but I don't see how anyone could think that episode was "good." At best it was a place setter to put the characters back on the gameboard in their places to proceed to the finale. Mostly it was boring melodrama, and the dragon flying scenes with Dani and Snow were some of the corniest crap I've seen on GoT. It was pretty much a live-action How to Train Your Dragon, but maybe with worse CGI.

3/10 this series continues to tank.

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They have 6 episodes to tie everything up -- this episode, albeit a little corny at times was just to tick the boxes, bring everyone back together to prepare for the slaughter coming.

I think too many people have unrealistic expectations for this show -- you are dating a super hot chick that annoys you sometimes. You dwell on her shortcomings but you will be crying when she is gone.

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Still from Ep 1:

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I would love to see (but know it probably won't happen):

Bran warg into a dragon (let everyone know he can be badness if needed)

NightKing take on full dragon breath and not be harmed (he's the baddest bad ass on Essos).

Euron actually act more like book Euron than tv Euron

Get a Ghost Drogon introduction

FrankenGregor meets a couple of wights/Wight Walkers (prior to Cleganebowl).

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I want to see Bran get gangraped by the dragons until death so he stops staring at everyone.
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Watched it again, this time pausing and doing the "replay that last dew seconds" to get everything.

And my hunch from the other night was right!
One of those girls with Bronn was Marei!

Been around since season one and hasn't aged a bit.



Still just a whoring away









EDIT: it was brought to my attention that the actress had a previous, um "career" in film under the name Sophoe O'Brien. Also did some reading on her past and felt a little bad for her. (Don't get me wrong, I watched the naughty stuff anyway)
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I would love to see (but know it probably won't happen):

Bran warg into a dragon (let everyone know he can be badness if needed)
I always thought that was going to be the case. Especially when he first meets the three eyed raven and he tells Bran that he will never walk again, but that he will fly. So now I really have no idea what his end game will be.

But with Jon riding the dragon, and the other one undead, it doesn't look like that's going to happen.

I'd prefer for Jon to be on the ground for the battle scenes. Flying around roasting thing isn't particularly exciting. And having two people doing it doesn't make it any better.

And has the show just totally given up on Ghost? Jon was away from Winterfell most of last season, so it made sense. They chose the giant over wolf CGI the previous season. I want to see Ghost meet the dragons. Or at least have a similar reaction to Dany as the dragon did to Jon.
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Maybe the three eyed raven was about Bran controlling all 3 dragons and butt ****ing the Night King nasty style.
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I enjoyed the 2nd episode although it doesn't feel like much has happened and we are now down to only 4 left. They should have done a full 12 episode season.
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