Go Back   Rage3D » Rage3D Discussion Area » Gaming and Computing Forums » Smartphones, Tablets and Handheld Computing
Rage3D Subscribe Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Smartphones, Tablets and Handheld Computing From Android, Symbian to Apple devices, this is the place for discussion and debate, whether it's smartphones, tablets or even gaming handhelds.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Mar 20, 2018, 03:02 PM   #91
Advertisement (Guests Only)

Login or Register to remove this ad
Munkus
Hugged your dog lately?
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: United States Big Sky Country
Posts: 23,546
Munkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of Reputation


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazy8s View Post
I need to get my grubby paws on one
Remind me what phone you have? If I had a fairly recent Android phone, instead of an iPhone, I would've probably skipped the 9+. It's an incremental upgrade for most recent 'droid phones, IMO. Unless it's free...then DO IT NAO!!!
Munkus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 20, 2018, 04:00 PM   #92
Lazy8s
One day at a time
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: United States Over here now
Posts: 27,196
Lazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pm


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Munkus View Post
Remind me what phone you have? If I had a fairly recent Android phone, instead of an iPhone, I would've probably skipped the 9+. It's an incremental upgrade for most recent 'droid phones, IMO. Unless it's free...then DO IT NAO!!!
I have the PH1 and am really enjoying it with Oreo 8.1. I was just talking to the better half about this and I'm skipping for now. Xfinity Mobile would save us a few $$, but their bring your own phone policy doesn't accept a fully unlocked, work on any network in the US phone like the PH1. So yeah, no go for now.

Gorgeous device for sure, but not worth getting BSd into it by a garbage policy.
__________________
Quote:
"A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives." Jackie Robinson
Lazy8s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 20, 2018, 04:32 PM   #93
Munkus
Hugged your dog lately?
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: United States Big Sky Country
Posts: 23,546
Munkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of Reputation


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazy8s View Post
I have the PH1 and am really enjoying it with Oreo 8.1. I was just talking to the better half about this and I'm skipping for now. Xfinity Mobile would save us a few $$, but their bring your own phone policy doesn't accept a fully unlocked, work on any network in the US phone like the PH1. So yeah, no go for now.

Gorgeous device for sure, but not worth getting BSd into it by a garbage policy.
Yeah, it wouldn't be it worthwhile upgrade for you. The PH1 is a sweet phone.
Munkus is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement (Guests Only)
Login or Register to remove this ad
Old Mar 20, 2018, 07:06 PM   #94
Lazy8s
One day at a time
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: United States Over here now
Posts: 27,196
Lazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pmLazy8s achieves Nirvana on Tuesdays at 4:00pm


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Munkus View Post
Yeah, it wouldn't be it worthwhile upgrade for you. The PH1 is a sweet phone.
Yeah it's pretty nice. I'd be lying if I said the note didn't catch my eye though
__________________
Quote:
"A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives." Jackie Robinson
Lazy8s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 23, 2018, 07:49 AM   #95
Elysian
SCAATSJW
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: United States Austin, TX
Posts: 47,534
Elysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling fresh


Default

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by IamHere View Post
You guys are closet communists.
Elysian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 23, 2018, 08:03 AM   #96
Munkus
Hugged your dog lately?
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: United States Big Sky Country
Posts: 23,546
Munkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of ReputationMunkus has achieved the Highest Pinnacle of Reputation


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elysian View Post
Well that sucks. So far I haven't had that problem, but it's another black eye for Samsung if it becomes widespread.
Munkus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 25, 2018, 12:12 PM   #97
ice
Rage3D Spammer
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: United States PA
Posts: 26,068
ice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badges


Default

Interesting to see the Snapdragon variant is faster this time than the Exynos. Guess I won't have to worry about trying to get one from overseas when the Note 9 comes out.
__________________

6600k|16GB of GSkill|500GB 850 Pro|Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 |Asus Z170-AR|Windows 10 64 Enterprise


360 games



Lose = Be careful not to lose that.
Loose = The bolts are loose.
There = She is there now.
Their = They have their things.
They're = They're going to the mall.
To = They came to the house.
Too = That's too bad.
Two = 2.
Your = Your dinner is ready.
You're = If you're 150lbs you'd better have a 6 pack.
ice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 25, 2018, 08:48 PM   #98
0091/2
We Do It!
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: China Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 7,182
0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ice View Post
Interesting to see the Snapdragon variant is faster this time than the Exynos. Guess I won't have to worry about trying to get one from overseas when the Note 9 comes out.
How do feel about the in-display fingerprint rumor? Would you miss the back FP sensor?
__________________
Lenovo x61t - Display : 12.1 (Multi-Touch) - CPU : Intel Lv7700 @1.8ghz - Graphics : Intel GMA X3100 graphics - Chipset : Intel 965 Express - Communication : Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
10/100/1000 Ethernet - RAM : G.skill ddr2 800 4gb - Storage : G.Skill 64 SSD(SLC) - Battery : 8cell


Current Desktop [2016]
Monitor: NEC EA244wmi | CPU: Intel 3570k @4.2ghz | Heatsink: NH-D14 | GPU: Intel HD4000 | Mobo: ASUS P8Z77-v pro | WiFi: Asus PCEAC68 | SSD: Samsung 830pro 128GB | HDD: WD Black 8========D~13TB | PSU: Seasonic Plat. 660w
0091/2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 25, 2018, 10:20 PM   #99
ice
Rage3D Spammer
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: United States PA
Posts: 26,068
ice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badgesice doesn't need no stinkin' badges


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 0091/2 View Post
How do feel about the in-display fingerprint rumor? Would you miss the back FP sensor?
I never used one with a back sensor, but I've always hated the idea of them. I reach over and unlock my S7 Edge all the time while it's sitting on the wireless charger, I don't want to have to pick the damn phone up to do that. Under the screen is a welcome feature for me. I also find it odd that Samsung and Apple can't get this working well but some no name Chinese company did.
__________________

6600k|16GB of GSkill|500GB 850 Pro|Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 |Asus Z170-AR|Windows 10 64 Enterprise


360 games



Lose = Be careful not to lose that.
Loose = The bolts are loose.
There = She is there now.
Their = They have their things.
They're = They're going to the mall.
To = They came to the house.
Too = That's too bad.
Two = 2.
Your = Your dinner is ready.
You're = If you're 150lbs you'd better have a 6 pack.
ice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 26, 2018, 05:36 AM   #100
v3rninater
Rockin Broz!!!
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 408
v3rninater is still being judged by the masses


Default

Pixel 2 XL, probably one of the best phones I've had, battery for 2 days. The only downside is app related. Facebook makes the bottom buttons not work sometimes, have to reboot the phone, but that's crappy FB.

Reallllly like Goog phones!
v3rninater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 29, 2018, 06:22 AM   #101
koralis
Radeon 5850
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,495
koralis once held a door open for a complete strangerkoralis once held a door open for a complete strangerkoralis once held a door open for a complete strangerkoralis once held a door open for a complete stranger


Default

Got one the other day to replace my aging LG G3. My first thought was "it's so small!" heightwise isn't... quite tall, but very narrow compared to my G3.

Usually I install Apex Launcher immediately since I'm familiar with it and know its ins and out. This time decided to give the built-in stuff a chance.


The "edge" popout I'd like better if they didn't put the control exactly where I'd scroll right/left to get to the other screens. (would also be better if it wasn't fullscreen and if you clicked anywhere else it went away so I don't have to search for the back key.) Eventually just turned it off because it was getting in the way too much... good idea, actually, but crappy implementation.


The Bixby Home screen... absolutely hated it initially, but that was more about their insistence on signing you up every time you land on that screen. Once I signed up and could start configuring it, it got a lot less obnoxious. I basically hid everything but Samsung Health (step counter, etc) and Samsung Play (music.) So essentially now I have a dedicated "tab" for playing music and checking my steps. That's not bad. Decided to keep it enabled instead of turning it off wholesale.

Bixby voice... don't often anticipate doing voice commands, it just seems weird, but assuming I can turn off the "always listening to you" feature and have it do things only when pressing the button that's fine. Need to disable Google voice too. The one thing I tested it with "Open Maps and navigate home" worked quite well... probably one of the ONLY things I'll use voice commands with as it saves a lot of typing.


As with all my phones, first thing I did was install Simple Calendar and TypeApp mail so that I can get the widgets on my home screen. Ah... so much better... my world at a glance. The tallness of the phone gives me a bit more real estate to look at. Had to bump up the font size to make it readable though.


Yes, miles away faster than my G3, not that it was causing me consternation. Better cell phone reception... can pick up the newer bands that Tmobile brought online since the manufacture of the older phone.


Overall pretty happy.
__________________
A hobbiest foundry and forge in progress, plans, suppliers, showcasing ideas

Kcrucible - Playing with Fire
koralis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 29, 2018, 12:48 PM   #102
0091/2
We Do It!
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: China Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 7,182
0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by koralis View Post
The "edge" popout I'd like better if they didn't put the control exactly where I'd scroll right/left to get to the other screens. (would also be better if it wasn't fullscreen and if you clicked anywhere else it went away so I don't have to search for the back key.) Eventually just turned it off because it was getting in the way too much... good idea, actually, but crappy implementation.
You can customize the edge panel handle.

You don't have to use the back key. Just click on the screen where there's no UI.
__________________
Lenovo x61t - Display : 12.1 (Multi-Touch) - CPU : Intel Lv7700 @1.8ghz - Graphics : Intel GMA X3100 graphics - Chipset : Intel 965 Express - Communication : Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
10/100/1000 Ethernet - RAM : G.skill ddr2 800 4gb - Storage : G.Skill 64 SSD(SLC) - Battery : 8cell


Current Desktop [2016]
Monitor: NEC EA244wmi | CPU: Intel 3570k @4.2ghz | Heatsink: NH-D14 | GPU: Intel HD4000 | Mobo: ASUS P8Z77-v pro | WiFi: Asus PCEAC68 | SSD: Samsung 830pro 128GB | HDD: WD Black 8========D~13TB | PSU: Seasonic Plat. 660w
0091/2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 29, 2018, 01:59 PM   #103
Elysian
SCAATSJW
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: United States Austin, TX
Posts: 47,534
Elysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling freshElysian kills 99.99% of germs and leaves hands feeling fresh


Default

Looked at an S9+ at Best Buy yesterday. These phones are too damned big.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by IamHere View Post
You guys are closet communists.
Elysian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 30, 2018, 09:35 AM   #104
CurrentlyPissed
Mad, not drunk.
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: United States Missouri
Posts: 13,568
CurrentlyPissed is not someone to be trifled withCurrentlyPissed is not someone to be trifled withCurrentlyPissed is not someone to be trifled withCurrentlyPissed is not someone to be trifled withCurrentlyPissed is not someone to be trifled withCurrentlyPissed is not someone to be trifled withCurrentlyPissed is not someone to be trifled withCurrentlyPissed is not someone to be trifled with


Default

I hate Bixby because I never use it, I disabled it. They kinda messed that one up on the S8 with the position of the button, it would always get tapped, or bumped and cause Bixby to pop up.

Had the hardware implementation been better on the S8/+ it would've fared better. Now everyone hates it because it started off "in the way". But it's actually pretty smart, and the most advanced of the AI's. But alas, I'll likely never use it because it annoyed me to no end with the button placement.
__________________
Quote:
The reason I talk to myself is because I’m the only one whose answers I accept.
-George Carlin
Quote:
An arrow can only be shot by pulling it back. Remember when life is dragging you back, you are just moments away from springing forward.

So keep aiming.

-Interwebz
CurrentlyPissed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 30, 2018, 12:19 PM   #105
0091/2
We Do It!
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: China Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 7,182
0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with0091/2 is not someone to be trifled with


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CurrentlyPissed View Post
I hate Bixby because I never use it, I disabled it. They kinda messed that one up on the S8 with the position of the button, it would always get tapped, or bumped and cause Bixby to pop up.

Had the hardware implementation been better on the S8/+ it would've fared better. Now everyone hates it because it started off "in the way". But it's actually pretty smart, and the most advanced of the AI's. But alas, I'll likely never use it because it annoyed me to no end with the button placement.
I think the problem is bixby home. You can change it to press and hold instead of a single press. I never accidentally activate Bixby since doing so.
__________________
Lenovo x61t - Display : 12.1 (Multi-Touch) - CPU : Intel Lv7700 @1.8ghz - Graphics : Intel GMA X3100 graphics - Chipset : Intel 965 Express - Communication : Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
10/100/1000 Ethernet - RAM : G.skill ddr2 800 4gb - Storage : G.Skill 64 SSD(SLC) - Battery : 8cell


Current Desktop [2016]
Monitor: NEC EA244wmi | CPU: Intel 3570k @4.2ghz | Heatsink: NH-D14 | GPU: Intel HD4000 | Mobo: ASUS P8Z77-v pro | WiFi: Asus PCEAC68 | SSD: Samsung 830pro 128GB | HDD: WD Black 8========D~13TB | PSU: Seasonic Plat. 660w
0091/2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Apr 6, 2018, 04:56 AM   #106
koralis
Radeon 5850
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,495
koralis once held a door open for a complete strangerkoralis once held a door open for a complete strangerkoralis once held a door open for a complete strangerkoralis once held a door open for a complete stranger


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 0091/2 View Post
You can customize the edge panel handle.
...

You don't have to use the back key. Just click on the screen where there's no UI.

Both good tips and helped make things a lot more pleasant, thanks!

As for the latter one, that's not QUITE accurate, and why I didn't figure it out myself. It's not a click.. you have to press and hold to get rid of the screen. Not a huge deal, but wasn't intuitive. Now that I know, the edge screen has gotten a LOT better. Moved the handle down and have it set up for favorite contacts and music. Nice... saves a bit of fumbling in Contacts.
__________________
A hobbiest foundry and forge in progress, plans, suppliers, showcasing ideas

Kcrucible - Playing with Fire
koralis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Apr 6, 2018, 10:15 PM   #107
shrike126
Roxen. You are missed.
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: United States Denver, CO
Posts: 23,476
shrike126 has a basement full of buried neg-reppersshrike126 has a basement full of buried neg-reppersshrike126 has a basement full of buried neg-reppersshrike126 has a basement full of buried neg-reppersshrike126 has a basement full of buried neg-reppersshrike126 has a basement full of buried neg-reppersshrike126 has a basement full of buried neg-reppersshrike126 has a basement full of buried neg-reppersshrike126 has a basement full of buried neg-reppersshrike126 has a basement full of buried neg-reppersshrike126 has a basement full of buried neg-reppers


Subscriber
Default

The interesting thing is that a lot of folks, for a little while, would remap the Bixby button to something else. Maybe a camera, a specific app, whatever... So they sort of stumbled onto an accidental feature that people liked (a remapable button), but refused to let people remap it.
__________________
Quote:
"I'll admit it. I did try and **** her, she was married."
"I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there and she was married."
"I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
"Grab them by the pussy."

~Donald J. Trump
Quote:
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe, is that so far none of it has tried to contact us." ~ Calvin & Hobbes
Quote:
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ John F. Kennedy (1962)
shrike126 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Apr 8, 2018, 02:47 PM   #108
Cream
Radeon R600
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: United Kingdom Sunny Southport
Posts: 628
Cream can beat 'Minesweeper' on any difficultyCream can beat 'Minesweeper' on any difficultyCream can beat 'Minesweeper' on any difficulty


Default

Had my S9+ since release date, It's my first Samsung phone. Had nexus 4,6 and pixel XL before this phone.
Software is bloated, but other than that I'm really liking it. Camera is excellent, Stereo Speakers YAY (so disappointed with the pixels one effort), Screens nice and bright and sharp. Headphone socket, again another big yay as I use my phone on a portable BOSS system while having a bath.
__________________
Modded Coolermaster RC-1000 Cosmos/1000W Corsair HX Series
ASUS Z170 pro gaming , I7 6700K Corsair O/C 4.7ghz H100i water cooler.
Zotac 1080 Ti Fe, Acer Predator 27" XB1 165Hz
16GB Corsair DDR4 , SSD 850 evo /480gb SSD Vertex 2/ 2TB hybrid drive for games, 1TB storage drive
Zowie FK1, Oculus CV1, Logitech G920, black widow Ultimate, Xbox one pad. Saitec X-55 H.O.T.A.S.
Cream is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Samsung goes format neutral: Samsung BD-UP5000 hybrid HD DVD/BD Standalone tranCendenZ Home Theaters and Photography 12 Apr 13, 2007 06:06 AM
samsung 793df or samsung 793mb? Scuzzy General Hardware 5 Jan 29, 2005 12:13 PM
Samsung 955DF or Samsung 900NF? Kain AMD Radeon Discussion and Support 6 Jan 29, 2001 10:14 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:39 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All trademarks used are properties of their respective owners. Copyright ©1998-2011 Rage3D.com
Links monetized by VigLink