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Old Feb 11, 2007, 05:03 PM   #1
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Hello. I am considering upgrading my Ultra Wizard case to a better case. I have looked at the Coolmaster Stacker, Thermaltake Armor, and the Antec Nine-Hundred. Which of those, or another one, do you think is the best? Any opinions would be great. Thanks.
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Old Feb 11, 2007, 05:20 PM   #2
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As I just wrote out a detailed description in another thread I will just link to it. HERE
The entire thread HERE

And to add a correction to it...it has 92mm fans not 80mm fans.
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Antec P180B, Just put it together, Very nice. Get the black one as it is a version 1.1 which fixes all the version 1 problems. Buying the silver one is a crap shot in weather your going to get the version 1.0 or 1.1.
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I own and highly recommend the Antec Nine Hundred. Out of all the cases I have owned (Chieftec Dragon, Antec Sonata II, Antec P180) this is the only one to make me happy. Check out a review here.

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As I just wrote out a detailed description in another thread I will just link to it. HERE
The entire thread HERE

And to add a correction to it...it has 92mm fans not 80mm fans.
Uber, I just have one thought about your personal review...

Cons....I have yet to find one with this case.


You know, I find it hard to believe that nothing has a flaw. I looked at the TT Armor case in CompUSA and spoted many flaws.

1. The front flaps. What are they for again? They have no use?
2. 3 exhaust fans and one intake fan? Does that sound right? My Nine Hundred has 3 intake fans and 2 exhaust (one being 200mm). I think that concept is flawed, to try to cool on mostly exhaust.
3. Flipping the PSU sideways and putting an exhaust fan next to it? That makes the case taller.
4. What's with the top flap thing covering the USB/audio connectors?
5. That large of a case and it only supports 3 internal 3.5-inch bays? The Antec Nine Hundred has 6 internal.

I don't know, I just didn't like the case at all. I picked the display model up and I didn't even like the overall build quality of it. $180 for the case too? Unreal.

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i mentioned in another thread as well that the silverstone tj09 is a nice option as well, but if you had to choose from the ones you mentioned, antec 900 is great.
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i mentioned in another thread as well that the silverstone tj09 is a nice option as well, but if you had to choose from the ones you mentioned, antec 900 is great.
Tack on this deal that someone found...

http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...ct_code=342484

It's a $140 case with 3x120mm fans and a 200mm fan for $65. You can't beat that anywhere else.
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Antec P180B, Just put it together, Very nice. Get the black one as it is a version 1.1 which fixes all the version 1 problems. Buying the silver one is a crap shot in weather your going to get the version 1.0 or 1.1.
I have that same case and IMO it's the best PC case i have ever had and i have used and owned many cases .
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I own and highly recommend the Antec Nine Hundred. Out of all the cases I have owned (Chieftec Dragon, Antec Sonata II, Antec P180) this is the only one to make me happy. Check out a review here.

Uber, I just have one thought about your personal review...

You know, I find it hard to believe that nothing has a flaw. I looked at the TT Armor case in CompUSA and spoted many flaws.

1. The front flaps. What are they for again? They have no use?
2. 3 exhaust fans and one intake fan? Does that sound right? My Nine Hundred has 3 intake fans and 2 exhaust (one being 200mm). I think that concept is flawed, to try to cool on mostly exhaust.
3. Flipping the PSU sideways and putting an exhaust fan next to it? That makes the case taller.
4. What's with the top flap thing covering the USB/audio connectors?
5. That large of a case and it only supports 3 internal 3.5-inch bays? The Antec Nine Hundred has 6 internal.

I don't know, I just didn't like the case at all. I picked the display model up and I didn't even like the overall build quality of it. $180 for the case too? Unreal.
I'm not sure what your talking about with the flaps....

The entire front part of the case is a grid for maximum air flow. Having 3 exhaust fans and on intake is just fine as the 3 are pulling air through the case.

Yes flipping the PSU sideways does make the case a bit taller but not to much to make it ugly or to much as it is a full tower making it already a large case, and it adds removable HD tray next to it. Keeps them out of the air flow from the front of the case and pulls the heat from the HD's straight out of the case. Great idea and easy access to the HD's.

The top flap covering the USB connections....just what it is. I see nothing wrong with it.

You have 6 3.5 bays. With the ability to add 6 more. 3 in the detachable HD tray up top and 3 more with the fan assembly.

I'm not sure what "Build quality" your actually pointing out. Cause both the Aluminum and steel versions are very sturdy and strong cases. Mine has traveled to many-o-lan party's and has been torn apart and rebuilt many-o-times.


And I didn't say the case doesn't have any flaws. I just that "I" have yet to find an issue of my own with this case. It has met my standards very well and I am a very picky person about the little details of a case. The one thing I look at when I am gazing at new cases if the freedom I will have within the case(room) and then it's the air flow and where I would hide wires. If it does not meet my standards I pass. This case IMO has met those standards plus some and I have yet to find a case that beets this one...IMO!!
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I own and highly recommend the Antec Nine Hundred. Out of all the cases I have owned (Chieftec Dragon, Antec Sonata II, Antec P180) this is the only one to make me happy. Check out a review here.



Uber, I just have one thought about your personal review...

Cons....I have yet to find one with this case.


You know, I find it hard to believe that nothing has a flaw. I looked at the TT Armor case in CompUSA and spoted many flaws.

1. The front flaps. What are they for again? They have no use?
2. 3 exhaust fans and one intake fan? Does that sound right? My Nine Hundred has 3 intake fans and 2 exhaust (one being 200mm). I think that concept is flawed, to try to cool on mostly exhaust.
3. Flipping the PSU sideways and putting an exhaust fan next to it? That makes the case taller.
4. What's with the top flap thing covering the USB/audio connectors?
5. That large of a case and it only supports 3 internal 3.5-inch bays? The Antec Nine Hundred has 6 internal.

I don't know, I just didn't like the case at all. I picked the display model up and I didn't even like the overall build quality of it. $180 for the case too? Unreal.
1. Design. And they protect the front of the case.
They can be removed if so desired.

2. Airflow works fine w/ the one 120mm front fan, the one back 120mm, & the two 92mm exhausts.
If you really want, another 120mm can be added to the front if another iCage is purchased.

3. Making the case taller isn't a drawback, it allows for a decently spacious interior, unlike your beloved Antec Cramped Hundred

4. It's protective plastic cover lol, so dust, etc. doesn't fall in.

5. There are six 3.5 HDDs bays by default, eight if you count the useable floppy tray & power button tray.
Three in rear cage; three + two in front. And you can get a second or even third front iCage if wanted, allowing for a maximum of 13 HDDs!
How many did the amazing Nine Hundred fit again?

While i do think the Nine Hundred is a decent mid size case overall, it's not really in the same league as the Armor series.

Nothing you pointed out is actually a "flaw". Just dislikes of yours...
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LOL Tiny, i think we both composed out posts about the same time
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LOL Tiny, i think we both composed out posts about the same time
Maybe that was the error I was getting when trying to post.
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I have that same case and IMO it's the best PC case i have ever had and i have used and owned many cases .
Having come from only cheap ass cases this thing is a rollsroyce. Temps are down 10c throughout as well.
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Hello. I haven't really decided yet. Although I do admit that $65 for a $130 case (Nine-Hundred) is a good deal. I like the way the nine-hundred and armor look. However, I have some thoughts on the Nine-Hundred. I don't know if any of this matters, but I will bring it up anyway. The 900 has a 200mm top fan while the armor I think only has a 92mm. I do like the fact in the 900 that is has the option of having a 120mm inside the case for intake or outake. A question on the Armor. Does it have the option of mounting fans inside it? I must say though that I am impressed by the Armors internal configuration. I don't really care where the power supply is. Does it really matter? The P180b doesn't look too bad either. Any opinions or comments on any of this are welcome. Thanks.

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Not a big fan of the case (pun intended ), but yes that's a great deal on the 900 (see my 900 for-sale link if anyone doesn't know of this deal).

Have you looked at the Cooler Master Mystique? SVC has a great deal going on those as well. On sale for $44.99 less $15 MIR plus S&H:

Silver / Black / Black w/ window

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Antec P180B, Just put it together, Very nice. Get the black one as it is a version 1.1 which fixes all the version 1 problems. Buying the silver one is a crap shot in weather your going to get the version 1.0 or 1.1.
I just put together a Antec P180 also (silver one). How do I know if I go the 1.0 or 1.1 version?

Not that it matters now, but I'm curious.

Thanks

btw, it is an awesome case, lovin' it!
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I just put together a Antec P180 also (silver one). How do I know if I go the 1.0 or 1.1 version?

Not that it matters now, but I'm curious.

Thanks

btw, it is an awesome case, lovin' it!
It does say it around the UPC bar code, Also door and side panels are reinforced with steel as to stop the warping that was occurring for some people as well as some people having problems breaking the door to easily. Also the Graphics card vent was removed from the 1.1 as it appeared from many reviews to not be worth much of anything or had to be removed anyways.
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It does say it around the UPC bar code, Also door and side panels are reinforced with steel as to stop the warping that was occurring for some people as well as some people having problems breaking the door to easily. Also the Graphics card vent was removed from the 1.1 as it appeared from many reviews to not be worth much of anything or had to be removed anyways.


In fact, I just confirmed w/ Antec that they're shipping me a replacement left side panel and front door panel because of the warping issue. Antec's customer service is yet another reason I still tend to buy their products.
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And to add a correction to it...it has 92mm fans not 80mm fans.
I picked up the side panel with the 230mm fan.
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I'm not sure what your talking about with the flaps....

The entire front part of the case is a grid for maximum air flow. Having 3 exhaust fans and on intake is just fine as the 3 are pulling air through the case.
The front flaps that flip around and do nothing. When I saw those in the store I nearly laughed.

Intake fans provide better cooling than exhaust fans do. It's good to have balance for proper air flow but intake fans are what really bring the cool air in.

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Yes flipping the PSU sideways does make the case a bit taller but not to much to make it ugly or to much as it is a full tower making it already a large case, and it adds removable HD tray next to it. Keeps them out of the air flow from the front of the case and pulls the heat from the HD's straight out of the case. Great idea and easy access to the HD's.
So putting a HDD tray next to it is going to add more heat to the CPU area?

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The top flap covering the USB connections....just what it is. I see nothing wrong with it.
I don't like flappy things. That's all. I have always preferred open access to my USB/audio connectors.

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You have 6 3.5 bays. With the ability to add 6 more. 3 in the detachable HD tray up top and 3 more with the fan assembly.
Ah, good. 3 would have been bad for a full tower.

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I'm not sure what "Build quality" your actually pointing out. Cause both the Aluminum and steel versions are very sturdy and strong cases. Mine has traveled to many-o-lan party's and has been torn apart and rebuilt many-o-times.
I don't know, it just felt very fake and weakly structured to me.

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And I didn't say the case doesn't have any flaws. I just that "I" have yet to find an issue of my own with this case. It has met my standards very well and I am a very picky person about the little details of a case. The one thing I look at when I am gazing at new cases if the freedom I will have within the case(room) and then it's the air flow and where I would hide wires. If it does not meet my standards I pass. This case IMO has met those standards plus some and I have yet to find a case that beets this one...IMO!!
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Have you owned an Antec Nine Hundred?
I checked one out. Didnt like it.

I dont like the style of those cases. I dont much prefer many Antec styles.

Antec cases have some decent build quality. Not any better or worse than the Armors.

You need to make more sense when you post.
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I checked one out. Didnt like it.

I dont like the style of those cases. I dont much prefer many Antec styles.

Antec cases have some decent build quality. Not any better or worse than the Armors.

You need to make more sense when you post.*
Those style? The Armor is similar, just larger and lacking certain features. I have no complaints about the build quality at all of the Nine Hundred. Nothing was dangling on the inside when I got it. Everything fit as it should. It's sturdy and doesn't rattle. Everything is braced. The edges are rolled. Everything worked after assembly. Nothing has fallen off since assembling it.

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Those style? The Armor is similar, just larger and lacking certain features. I have no complaints about the build quality at all of the Nine Hundred. Nothing was dangling on the inside when I got it. Everything fit as it should. It's sturdy and doesn't rattle. Everything is braced. The edges are rolled. Everything worked after assembly. Nothing has fallen off since assembling it.

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personally im a fan of the antec solution series.

http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=93000

does what it's supposed to do and at a fairly decent price. ($30.00)
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Hello. Anyone have any other thoughts on the p180 series from antec. I looked at that a little bit and the interiour looks nice except I am a little concerned able the power supply area in it. It seems a little cramped, but looks like it works well if the PSU fits and after messing with the cables. Any other Coolmaster models that anyone recommends? I also say a Thermaltake Armor Junior. It looks like a smaller version, but does anyone have one of those? Thanks.
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Speaking of Antec, the Solo is on sale for $40 AR w/ free shipping right now at Frys:

http://www.outpost.com/entry?site=op...06&sku=4895610

Rebate: http://image.ak.outpost.com/art/reba...610_020907.pdf

Should work at Frys physical locations too.

EDIT: hold on a sec! I'm hearing now that the Solo is already on sale for $59.99 at the B&M stores and, since the rebate is valid at B&Ms as well, you could conceivably get this case for $19.99 AR at the B&Ms!

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Old Feb 13, 2007, 04:53 PM   #27
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The front flaps that flip around and do nothing. When I saw those in the store I nearly laughed.
Yes those flaps....I removed mine and plan on replacing the empty spots with an acrylic tube with lights on either end. I'll get around to it some time.

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Intake fans provide better cooling than exhaust fans do. It's good to have balance for proper air flow but intake fans are what really bring the cool air in.
Your wrong actually. Either do just as much work. It's all about negative and positive air pressure. With all the fans pulling there is a negative pressure build meaning it is pulling air through. If there were more fans in the front than back it is a positive pressure meaning it is pushing air through. Like making all the fans blow in would most likely give you an equal pressure making the flow of air almost nothing and not properly cooling the system.

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So putting a HDD tray next to it is going to add more heat to the CPU area?
Umm...heat rises!!

That and the fan right behing the HD's pull the heat straight off the Hd's and out of the case. No heat soaking anything plus it is good for the HD's by keeping them cooler.

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I don't like flappy things. That's all. I have always preferred open access to my USB/audio connectors.
Well...duno what to tell you then.
Remove the flap.

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I don't know, it just felt very fake and weakly structured to me.
This case is by far a week or poorly put together case. But that is your personal opinion!

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Have you owned an Antec Nine Hundred?
No...But I have owned and worked on other Antec cases and I do not like them.
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Hello. Well CompUSA is out of the case and the rebate ends today. I don't know if they $89 will stick, but its sold out none the less. So now since the 900 and armor and others are all about the same price, I just have to keep looking and them and eventually decide. So many different cases to choose from.
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Perhaps you yourself should stop trolling. Im glad that you like your Antec.
I'm not trolling. I'm merely posting my opinions on a case. I'm not insulting anyone, like saying that their posts make no sense. Nobody said that we had to agree on anything but no need to judge the "sense making" of someone's posting when it's in plain English.
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