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Old Apr 20, 2019, 02:11 PM   #1
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Unfortunately my son has got his patience from me which means he has none. He want his new PC for his birthday (tomorrow) or as soon as possible after. He's already told his mum, the boss, I'm getting him one I'm giving him my CPU, mobo and my old 16gb ram and I've just ordered an AMD 2700 CPU for myself. The big question is which mobo should I buy. I know it's a side grade for me but I'm happy with that TBH. The 2700 is only £30 dearer than the 2600X so is a bit of a no brainer at 1440p.

I'm looking at the Asus Prime X470 Pro at £140 or the Asrock Master SLI X470 at £125. The price isn't an issue and I do prefer Asus boards if I'm honest, however I have owned an Asrock board that was excellent. If anyone has experience of these boards or manufacturers please let me know.
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Old Apr 20, 2019, 03:40 PM   #2
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I had an ok experience with my GB x370 and I think the x470 were better from what Ive read, but if I were to buy today Id go with the asrock or asus... Asus has a huge lineup price wise.
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Old Apr 22, 2019, 12:35 PM   #3
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Don't get any Gigabyte or Asrock mobo. I'd get an ASUS mobo like Prime X470-Pro or ASUS Crosshair. I have a very good experience with my X370-Pro. Its never giving me any issue at all.
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Asus crosshair bios releases are a mess.

They have released several that randomly turn off cpu fans and water pump headers... just check the ROG forums quite a few pissed of users.

I have moved my water pump to a molex adapter after several incidents myself.

I will not be buying asus for a long time after this ****
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Asus X470's are a bitch to find. I went with a Gigabyte cause it's all that was available at time of purchase. I have had good luck with Asrock in the past and MSI too.
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I've been liking the ASRock Taichi boards. Good solid no-nosense boards with minimal fluff.
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When I strayed from Asus it almost took me down. Had an XFX and an MSI board that were just complete ****.

I'll be whoring out Asus 4 LIFE!
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Don't get any Gigabyte or Asrock mobo. I'd get an ASUS mobo like Prime X470-Pro or ASUS Crosshair. I have a very good experience with my X370-Pro. Its never giving me any issue at all.
No problem with asrock b450 gaming k4 here. In fact in testing done asrock has one of the better VRM cooling even among better brands.
I got a 2600x in it right now and will throw in a ryzen3 into it when that comes out.
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Don't get any Gigabyte or Asrock mobo. I'd get an ASUS mobo like Prime X470-Pro or ASUS Crosshair. I have a very good experience with my X370-Pro. Its never giving me any issue at all.
Prime x470 pro looks like a winner for me TBH.

Well I've had Asus Boards for a few years now so will stick with that I know.

Ordered the 2700 arriving tomorrow at work. Will be ordering the mobo tomorrow just have to decide which one.
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lol why are you buying a 2700?
Numerous reasons; firstly to rid myself of Intel, Spectre, Meltdown and the fact I have no upgrade path as intel screwed the Z270 series. Secondly, I'm going from 4c/8t to 8c/16t for less than two thirds of the price it cost me for the 7700K. Also I'll have at least Zen 2 and probably Zen 3 to upgrade to using the same motherboard so it makes updating a whole lot cheaper than with Intel. Simples.
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sorry still seems nuts not to wait 4 to 6 weeks for a much faster zen 2 and MB with PCIE 4.0 as all the next new video cards will be 4.0
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sorry still seems nuts not to wait 4 to 6 weeks for a much faster zen 2 and MB with PCIE 4.0 as all the next new video cards will be 4.0
Probably nearer 3 to 4 months until retail but to be honest I'm not bothered. By getting an X470 mobo I can still upgrade to Zen 2 and probably Zen 3 (if it comes out in 2020) and still be good to go. PCIE 4.0 meh as I'm sure at 1440p I'm no where near saturating PCIE 3 and as PCIE 4 will be new it will take some time for everything else to catch up. An Nvidia 2080ti won't become defunct overnight just because PCIE 4 comes out.

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Probably nearer 3 to 4 months until retail but to be honest I'm not bothered. By getting an X470 mobo I can still upgrade to Zen 2 and probably Zen 3 (if it comes out in 2020) and still be good to go. PCIE 4.0 meh as I'm sure at 1440p I'm no where near saturating PCIE 3 and as PCIE 4 will be new it will take some time for everything else to catch up. An Nvidia 2080ti won't become defunct overnight just because PCIE 4 comes out.

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Bill as we know launch to retail can take several months and Zen 2 is slated to come out in July so probably August in retail in UK. Sorry but I'll never buy a Biostar motherboard but that's just me.

My Ryzen 7 2700 arrived yesterday cost £205 :check: My Asus prime X470 Pro arrives Monday cost £160 :check: Using existing Be Quiet Dark Pro 4 cooler and 3000hz ram and all drives :check: My son gets my 7700K, Z270 motherboard and I've bought him 16gb DDR4 ram to replace his ancient 2500K CPU, Asrock motherboard and DDR3 ram. Tell me what's not to like.

I'm 59 next Friday and PC gaming is no longer my main hobby, it's well behind golf and TBH I game more on my XboneX than on the PC these days. But I'm not ready to give up yet and see this upgrade as something positive that works out well for me and my 20 year old son who's become a very good PC gamer. This is a win win for both of us.

I've given up on buying the latest and greatest PC equipment as it's not where I'm at anymore. Sad but a fact I'm afraid.
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PCI-E 4 will be quickly replaced by PCIE-5. Im waiting for 600 gen or later mobo with at least 3 full nvme slots and PCIE-5 and DDR5...That will be a godless 5-8 year monster like my old phenom 2 was.
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Why?? I can upgrade to Zen 2 anytime I want on my X470 mobo (maybe Zen 3) and if in 2 years I want to buy an X570 they'll probably be half the price Time waits for no man so do it while you can. I've actually gone back to stock on my 2700 because I just can't see any difference from my 7700K @ 4.8/5.0 except in synthetic benchmarks (< 3%/5%). TBH don't need the heat or power of an overclock when I can't tell the difference. Loving this CPU.
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Why?? I can upgrade to Zen 2 anytime I want on my X470 mobo (maybe Zen 3) and if in 2 years I want to buy an X570 they'll probably be half the price Time waits for no man so do it while you can. I've actually gone back to stock on my 2700 because I just can't see any difference from my 7700K @ 4.8/5.0 except in synthetic benchmarks (< 3%/5%). TBH don't need the heat or power of an overclock when I can't tell the difference. Loving this CPU.
If you're looking for a long term, then yeah X470-Pro should be fine too as well as you just simply update the bios to support Zen 2 CPU compatibility. I won't replace my X370-Pro until 2021 or 2022. Maybe ASUS Prime X670-Pro with PCIE5.
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Why?? I can upgrade to Zen 2 anytime I want on my X470 mobo (maybe Zen 3) and if in 2 years I want to buy an X570 they'll probably be half the price Time waits for no man so do it while you can. I've actually gone back to stock on my 2700 because I just can't see any difference from my 7700K @ 4.8/5.0 except in synthetic benchmarks (< 3%/5%). TBH don't need the heat or power of an overclock when I can't tell the difference. Loving this CPU.

You may notice a difference with faster GPU [lowered settings, or combination of both]. That's when CPU performance will be exposed.

Yeh I agree, x470 is fine with its upgrade path. It's not as if 16x pcie 3 will bottleneck with any GPU in the next few years, plus you have the option for faster CPU. Seems OK to me.
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Damn MSI not supporting ryzen 3k on any of its first gen mobos. Asus and GB are tho.
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Wait I thought they were nuking 1st gen Ryzen in the uefi to make room for Zen 2?
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My motherboard already has the bios support out
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Wait I thought they were nuking 1st gen Ryzen in the uefi to make room for Zen 2?
Story is GB nuked the igp cpus models to make room for 3k ryzen. But buildzoid has done a runup of what mobos can run what 3k cpus... and its looking iffy for a few first gen mobos. GB doesnt have enough cooling for the 12 core. A320 is complete no go but thats no surprise.

B350 and x370 varies from one maker to another. VRM and cooling them being a much bigger issue than bios. Im seriously considering taking the dremel to the stock HS on the GB K7 then tacking or ziptying on a 120mm fan.

B450 and x470 seem all fine...
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Well duh, AMD have just done what Intel did concerning VRM heat and power delivery. Old mobos can't handle them. It's not a conspiracy.
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Depends on the cpu you want to run. If its a 6 or 8 core so far seems its not a problem across the entire B350 x370 lineup and up as long as vendor provides the bios. The 12 core is the one thats causing concerns.

For gaming and casual use putting in even a 'lowly' 6 core over my old 8 core in my x370 would be a huge perf gain.
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