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Old Jan 10, 2018, 05:54 AM   #181
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According to this list, it seems that the Core series and later are affected (starting with the 45mm i series).
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/60411...own/index.html

My desktop has the i7 6700K on the MSI Gaming M3 Z170a motherboard which I am expecting a firmware update. However, my laptop is 5 years old running an i5 3317u and is no longer getting driver and bios updates. Also my old system is a Q9400 (did not see any Core 2 cpus on the list).

Does this mean the Core 2 Duo and Quad are OK or are they also affected and will not get the patch?

I guess this means my laptop and old desktop are just as unsafe as running a desktop with Windows XP?

I have a feeling that this vulnerabilities will push people to upgrade from sandy bridge, ivy , haswell ... I find it improbable that mainboard manufacturers will release bioses for sandy bridge for example.People will they say they will upgrade and at least they will get bios support.
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 09:31 AM   #182
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I have a feeling that this vulnerabilities will push people to upgrade from sandy bridge, ivy , haswell ... I find it improbable that mainboard manufacturers will release bioses for sandy bridge for example.People will they say they will upgrade and at least they will get bios support.
Agreed. There is no way ASUS is releasing BIOS updates for my ancient Maximus V and 3570K.

But the BIOS update is only for one of the two spectre variants and also the BIOS fix is the one hurting performance the most (compared to the windows patch that fixes the other spectre variant and meltdown).
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Oh well whoever wants to hack my PC can do so. I got nothing.
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Oh well whoever wants to hack my PC can do so. I got nothing.
I doubt you'll get hack. Don't go on shady sites and you'll be fine.
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I assume the vulnerabilities are going to have to be patched on the OS level. Otherwise there will be millions of vulnerable PCs. How many people even ever upgrade their BIOS? Most don't even know how. And it's not like 10 years of computers are just going to be thrown in the trash en masse.
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 04:44 PM   #186
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Out of the 6 Pc's in the office where I work I could only update two, the QuickBooks server that I built last Christmas and our office managers system. They all contain Asus boards and one is even listed on the list demo linked but the bios doesn't exist on Asus site. H170m Plus.

Windows has been all patched as well as the Qnap NAS' firmware.
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I assume the vulnerabilities are going to have to be patched on the OS level. Otherwise there will be millions of vulnerable PCs. How many people even ever upgrade their BIOS? Most don't even know how. And it's not like 10 years of computers are just going to be thrown in the trash en masse.
Two of the three vulnerabilities are patched on OS level. The third one requires a BIOS update so basicly no one will get a fix except for people with new hardware and know how to update BIOS - and those are a minority.
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Out of the 6 Pc's in the office where I work I could only update two, the QuickBooks server that I built last Christmas and our office managers system. They all contain Asus boards and one is even listed on the list demo linked but the bios doesn't exist on Asus site. H170m Plus.

Windows has been all patched as well as the Qnap NAS' firmware.
Have you run the update tool found here?

https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards...HelpDesk_BIOS/


Btw you never answered with your 4770k, and now 8700k. What's your cinebench score with your golden chip?
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So when are the actual attacks going to be happening? All of these years/decades with these vulnerabilities and the hackers hadn't figured it out yet? I kinda wished they kept a lid on things and quietly fixed future CPUs until the first real sign of trouble that may not have actually happened anyways. A bit of a gamble but whatever.
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Old Jan 12, 2018, 02:47 AM   #193
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Sounds like your PC can’t be saved. Time for an upgrade mate!

You can also check your browser here.

http://xlab.tencent.com/special/spec...tre_check.html

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http://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution


This AMD blog provides more details on its progress in addressing the Spectre one. Meltdown doesn't affect AMD CPUs and neither vulnerability affects AMD GPUs. AMD explains that it believes the Windows patches being released should be sufficient for the most part, and is working with Microsoft to reissue problem-free Windows security updates for AMD systems by next week. AMD has also started releasing microcode updates for Ryzen and EPYC processors this week, and will do so for previous generations over the coming weeks.
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Sorry in advance, but I haven't read this thread and have been kinda watching this from the outside in. So forgive me if this was already discussed.


But how are companies like Facebook, Google, etc. With MASSIVE server farms not sueing intell? Performance per watt is critical and a huge cost factor on thier farms. Often they upgrade millions of dollars of equipment even over the slightest upgrade because it can save a ton in heat, cooling, etc.

I'm shocked we haven't seen anything yet.


I'm also a little annoyed because my 4690k server is going to be hit pretty good. And so is our laptop with a 6th Gen Intel Core i5-6200U is going to lose performance it needs. Which is one of the main reasons I purchased it over an AMD APU version.
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No threat found for that program with Eset Endpoint

And it shows my laptop as vulnerable to Spectre; I don't think there's anything I can do until Dell gets off their lazy asses and issues a bios update

edit: speak of the devil, just checked and they released a new BIOS update yesterday. Looks like I'm patched now.
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Well I can confirm that overall performance has taken a big time nose dive with these patches. While I haven't ran any benchmarks, subjectively it's very noticeable. Ranging from Haswell CPU's, Broadwell, & Skylake in my office to the Kaby Lake I have at home - simply using Windows now feels like each processor is down a full gigahertz; Windows lags a lot now, file transfers are slower, and programs take much longer to open - especially on the older chips.

This is absurd, my laptop went from just fine to feeling like a dinosaur overnight. On the plus side though, I can confirm that I can't notice any difference in gaming.
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Well I can confirm that overall performance has taken a big time nose dive with these patches. While I haven't ran any benchmarks, subjectively it's very noticeable. Ranging from Haswell CPU's, Broadwell, & Skylake in my office to the Kaby Lake I have at home - simply using Windows now feels like each processor is down a full gigahertz; Windows lags a lot now, file transfers are slower, and programs take much longer to open - especially on the older chips.

This is absurd, my laptop went from just fine to feeling like a dinosaur overnight. On the plus side though, I can confirm that I can't notice any difference in gaming.
It only affects heavy task I/O performance. Your games hardly use it at all except for some heavy DRM games it might be affected.
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It only affects heavy task I/O performance. Your games hardly use it at all except for some heavy DRM games it might be affected.
It affects more than heavy task I/O; like I just said it's very noticeable across the boards in using Windows - from opening a program to multitasking; the overall experience seems crippled compared to pre-patches
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It affects more than heavy task I/O; like I just said it's very noticeable across the boards in using Windows - from opening a program to multitasking; the overall experience seems crippled compared to pre-patches
Interesting. I didn't know there's more than just like that. Yeah, it's bad. I surprised how articles and youtubers didn't mention like that. It depends on users who have different specs. Not everyone experiences the same thing.
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Interesting. I didn't know there's more than just like that. Yeah, it's bad. I surprised how articles and youtubers didn't mention like that. It depends on users who have different specs. Not everyone experiences the same thing.
It has affected 6 different workstations of mine and my home computer, all have different specs and processors. The older processors seem to be crippled the most, namely Broadwell & Haswell. Kaby Lake seems to be the least affected; but I can still tell a difference on that too.

It's nothing I can't live with, but I'll probably be moving on from Intel now.
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Tried both windows 7 and 10 and no difference in my experience using windows, games or internet. Tried also running some benches. Still no difference.
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 10:37 PM   #206
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Online is going to **** with these patches. Steam, facebook ect I get regular timeouts to dropped connections... far more lag than usual. Its like the net went back a decade or more.
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Online is going to **** with these patches. Steam, facebook ect I get regular timeouts to dropped connections... far more lag than usual. Its like the net went back a decade or more.
YouTube as well, at least for me.
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Gigabyte released a cpu-microcode bios update for my motherboard two days ago. I downloaded it, but haven't flashed my motherboard yet. I assume this has to be a patch to fix these exploits. considering whats been posted here - I think I will be holding off for now.
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So far the most annoying thing to me is my old 4770K in my server keeps ****ing rebooting. Driving me nuts, because that box has all my data on it, and also handles TV recording.

I do notice a little drop in performance on my 7700K system when dealing with file copy and compression stuff, but overall it's not too bad.

My next rig will most likely contain a ryzen CPU.
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That app just crashes out for me in Win 7 x64 on my Sandy Bridge i5-2500k. My installation is nearly 7 years old and seems stable, but if I double click the app to run it, it momentarily shows in Task Manager then it's gone.

Not like I'm going to get the BIOS patches anyway for my P67 board.
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