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Old Jan 3, 2018, 02:30 PM   #31
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Buh.... Sue?

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Old Jan 3, 2018, 02:47 PM   #32
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I wonder how long the NSA has known about this vulnerability?
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Old Jan 3, 2018, 03:13 PM   #33
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https://newsroom.intel.com/news/inte...arch-findings/



So like I thought, its not just us its everyone...
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So like I thought, its not just us its everyone...


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Old Jan 3, 2018, 04:03 PM   #35
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Think of it like this.

Intel may be able to actually patch this in a bios update, but they will still take the performance hit.

By claiming they can't and it has to be done via OS patch, they are hoping to have Amd take the performance hit along with them so they still look good.
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Old Jan 3, 2018, 04:14 PM   #36
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Think of it like this.

Intel may be able to actually patch this in a bios update, but they will still take the performance hit.

By claiming they can't and it has to be done via OS patch, they are hoping to have Amd take the performance hit along with them so they still look good.
well we can hope Microsoft doesn't play Intel's game as the do a lot with AMD now

and if the hack does not work on AMD cpu's & apu's and xbox it should not be hard to prove
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Old Jan 3, 2018, 09:59 PM   #38
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https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution

Seems AMD is effected by 1 variant and the performance hit is negledgable. Intel and ARM though are ****ed.
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The good news is that the next intel cpus will be up to 35% faster *after patching you OS*

I predict this will shake up their future lineup in a hurry. In 2 years or so we might see a monster change in their performance.

Followed by 5 years of 5% increases...
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FFS I hope we can put that security patch on the do not patch list... Im gonna go manual from here on out for updates.
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It does sort of irk me that the patch is mandatory. I'd like the option to just take my chances on my machine. After all, even downloading a normal trojan horse program can compromise your computer. I could be wrong, but as a home user I really don't see a huge risk from this bug.
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P5, the original Pentium, isn't affected by this. We can all just "upgrade" to that and call it a day. Performance increase for minimal $$...what is not to like now???

















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Looks like the perf loss is worse ~50%.



~5 min mark
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Nice looks like Linux wont be patching amd cpus:

https://twitter.com/phoronix/status/948725135971897345


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https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/3/16...windows-10-fix

has anyone got it yet ?

I have not got a win 10 update all year on my 1800x

i'll fire up the others latter
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Old Jan 4, 2018, 01:06 AM   #47
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For those of us with Macs, we're already at least partially patched and have been for a while. I've not personally noticed any speed impact at this point.
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CEO sold stock before this news came out.

Of course nothing will happen to him. He's been in the NSA's pocket for some time and has been playing ball.

You mean to tell me Intel hasn't been aware of these over the last decade or two? Please. This vulnerability was left open on purpose, as a feature for the NSA.
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The Windows patch is available.
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Yeah, it released yesterday. But I haven't download it yet....still need to check powershell but I was unable to make it working.
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Yeah, it released yesterday. But I haven't download it yet....still need to check powershell but I was unable to make it working.
why isn't there any gaming benchmarks for the VM protect games? Do people have trouble installing this patch?

Edit: The patch has no negative impact with games particular the VM protect one.
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Benchmarks Before/After

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...hmarked,3.html

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Performance went up???
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Performance went up???

So you will still dump the 8700k ?
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Is that a test build?
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nothing has come thru for my ryzen 1800x or threadripper 1900x systems yet

what flavor blood do we use for Microsoft Passover
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Old Jan 4, 2018, 12:02 PM   #57
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nothing has come thru for my ryzen 1800x or threadripper 1900x systems yet

what flavor blood do we use for Microsoft Passover
From Hardware Unboxed clip it says that now you have to download it mannualy and on tuesday it will end up on windows update...
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any ryzen or threadripper benchmarks on and off the patch ?
all I find is intel sh*t




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Old Jan 4, 2018, 12:34 PM   #59
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Ya not much issue for desktop users but server where the real $$$ is. Intel is gonna take a bath...
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Agree sharks in the water it's about to go down great white style.
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