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Old Apr 27, 2011, 10:10 AM   #31
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I don't know that 42% more expensive should be considered "slightly".
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Old Apr 27, 2011, 10:20 AM   #32
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It's actually fairly heavy and bulky as well, I'd consider that a selling point of the only slightly more expensive Transformer.
Have you held one? didn't feel any heavier than the ipad. I agree with Zero its a great bang for the buck.
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Old Apr 27, 2011, 11:00 AM   #33
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Have you held one? didn't feel any heavier than the ipad. I agree with Zero its a great bang for the buck.
Yes, I have, feels heavier than my Xoom and a LOT bulkier. Friend of mine has one. His also has a nifty feature, a purple line of pixels straight across the display
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Old Apr 27, 2011, 11:00 AM   #34
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I don't know that 42% more expensive should be considered "slightly".
$120 is slightly.
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Old Apr 27, 2011, 01:39 PM   #35
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Maybe to you playa.
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Old Apr 27, 2011, 01:53 PM   #36
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I've not held a Xoom but from what I've read on it, its the same weight as the Gtab... ??


The screen though could be a real killer for people, it is pretty bad in comparison to others(viewing angle).. but again at the price point its good enough..
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The GTab is a great bang for your buck tablet. I still see these things as nothing but toys and after buying the Gtab at $300 I would have a hard time spending anymore then that on a Tablet.

I guess if your friend got a bad one he should return it for another one. I'm sure no ones xoom has had an issue either.

Anyone looking for a 10.1 great tablet on the cheap should look at the Gtab.
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The GTab is a great bang for your buck tablet. I still see these things as nothing but toys and after buying the Gtab at $300 I would have a hard time spending anymore then that on a Tablet.

I guess if your friend got a bad one he should return it for another one. I'm sure no ones xoom has had an issue either.

Anyone looking for a 10.1 great tablet on the cheap should look at the Gtab.
Maybe it's a toy to you but that's not the case for everyone. I use my Xoom more than I use my desktop, it quite literally replaced my laptop. Quality is important to most people, that's why the GTab doesn't fly off the shelves but tabs like the Transformer do.

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What's the quadrant score on your xoom?
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Maybe it's a toy to you but that's not the case for everyone. I use my Xoom more than I use my desktop, it quite literally replaced my laptop. Quality is important to most people, that's why the GTab doesn't fly off the shelves but tabs like the Transformer do.
Quality? Are you talking about the viewing angle? :

And desktop or laptop replacement .. lol not even close, right now they're just fun gadgets.
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3654 my last run without any IO hacks. It's in the Quadrant thread.
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Quality? Are you talking about the viewing angle? :

And desktop or laptop replacement .. lol not even close, right now they're just fun gadgets.
I use it for everything I used my laptop for. Never said it was a desktop replacement. I use it for much more than just 'fun'
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3654 my last run without any IO hacks. It's in the Quadrant thread.
Damn that's a nice score. I need to try an updated kernel, my last score was around 3100.
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Damn that's a nice score. I need to try an updated kernel, my last score was around 3100.
They've been updating it a lot on XDA for the Xoom. 3100 was my norm before all the kernel optimization (at 1.5ghz).
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They've been updating it a lot on XDA for the Xoom. 3100 was my norm before all the kernel optimization (at 1.5ghz).
Yea im on the first OC kernel release @ 1.4ghz .. im sure improvements have been made.
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Slightly OT, but I don't get why people use Quadrant as a benchmark. It's so inconsistent that it really doesn't tell you much. Same device can score hundreds of points difference on different runs, it really doesn't seem to make sense.
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Slightly OT, but I don't get why people use Quadrant as a benchmark. It's so inconsistent that it really doesn't tell you much. Same device can score hundreds of points difference on different runs, it really doesn't seem to make sense.
I find after the 2nd run it scores nearly identically every time, the first run is always low. The real problem is the IO hack people who artificially boost their score.
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What just from running EXT4?
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What just from running EXT4?
It's a hack that only benefits Quadrant, hence making the results illegitimate.
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I wouln't call it a hack per se, some people dont have control over their filesystem based on what build is installed. Anyways, all the more reason to ignore quadrant as a valid benchmark tool.
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lol, You mean the 100 transformer tablets they had to sell. I bet the Gtab sold more then the Transformer on that day alone.
Not even close to replacing my Desktop, Its a toy like my old PSP. I will get some enjoyment out of it but beyond that nothing more.
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lol, You mean the 100 transformer tablets they had to sell. I bet the Gtab sold more then the Transformer on that day alone.
Not even close to replacing my Desktop, Its a toy like my old PSP. I will get some enjoyment out of it but beyond that nothing more.
I dunno how many Asus put in the channel but apparently Motorola has put 250k Xooms out there. How many sold is a question we'll probably never get the answer to but 250k out there is money in the bank for Moto.
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I wouln't call it a hack per se, some people dont have control over their filesystem based on what build is installed. Anyways, all the more reason to ignore quadrant as a valid benchmark tool.
Really only have to ignore the ones with massive IO scores. If you check my Xoom's benches, IO is right where it should be and the CPU score is what makes up the most of it, that's the power of the Tegra 2 for you.
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I really like the look of that HTC Flyer because of the included stylus. It's be amazing to take notes like I was writing on a notepad.

Personally, I have a Nook Color rooted with Cynogenmod7 using Gingerbread. I love this thing, it's small, lightweight, had a good a battery, and is VERY capable.
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Really only have to ignore the ones with massive IO scores. If you check my Xoom's benches, IO is right where it should be and the CPU score is what makes up the most of it, that's the power of the Tegra 2 for you.
samsung galaxy s 2 has ext 4 from stock device, so i wouldn't call that hack.. It might even be the standard format for future device.

one thing i dont' get with android benchmark is that, my old sgs 1 only score 1000-1200 points from quandrant.
and my lg 2x score from 2400 to 4000 in quadrant, and besides able to run game smoother, watch flash video without issue on browser . everything else is more laggy-er .

installing apps is not faster, loading apps can sometimes be faster or even slower. Scrolling the UI can sometimes pauses for second to a minutes. this is really strange as the dual core process should be much much more powerful in everything.
I have to say this again, i am a android user for more than 3 years, 7 different android device. And i think LG does a very very bad job on their software.
Even the lag fest SGS1 is not the laggiest phone i have ever use, it is the LG 2x dual core HIGHEst END of all which is the laggiest.


COnsidering buyer an android device, HTC might as well be the only one who knows how to write a damn software.


Everytime when company like MOTO, Samsung,LG, Sony, release an android mobile device, Were they really having a race on who can have the laggiest android device with the highest end hardware ever or something?
Sony was the king of laggiest android with their x10, Samsung with their SGS1, Now lg and moto with their dual core device which is somewhat laggy.

So from my experience, i couldn't use an android device without the help of custom rom and custom kernal.
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My friends bone stock g2x was snappy and fast all around, was the first thing I noticed while using it...
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My friends bone stock g2x was snappy and fast all around, was the first thing I noticed while using it...
g2x and 2x use different rom... G2x i think their rom is more like stock android one like the one on nexus S. + t-mobile Appz.



currect me if i am wrong.
but i know that you can't use 2x rom on g2x, or g2x rom on 2x. since they are totally different in software baseband
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g2x and 2x use different rom... G2x i think their rom is more like stock android one like the one on nexus S. + t-mobile Appz.



currect me if i am wrong.
but i know that you can't use 2x rom on g2x, or g2x rom on 2x. since they are totally different in software baseband
Oh ok, I thought you had the g2x. You're right though, his is very vanilla Android.
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I really like the look of that HTC Flyer because of the included stylus. It's be amazing to take notes like I was writing on a notepad.

Personally, I have a Nook Color rooted with Cynogenmod7 using Gingerbread. I love this thing, it's small, lightweight, had a good a battery, and is VERY capable.
I'm glad you approve of the HTC Flyer ... The HTC EVO View 4G looks good too right?
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