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Old Aug 19, 2002, 04:39 PM   #1
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Talking The Best Possible PC this winter

Not that I could afford it, but I can dream about it. It's the best possible specs right down to the last detail I can guess. Also not using water cooling, since it's pretty new and there aren't many options available.

CPU: 3400 Clawhammer, provided it doesn't get delayed. I've also seen an OC guide that points out that there's copper bridge versions of CPUs available, so it'd be that.

CPU sink: Not sure if Socket A 'sinks'll fit, but if they do, I'd go with a Zalman CNPS6000-Cu. That's a 400 some odd gram 'sink, full copper. I choose this because it does well against all other brands (*eyes fall out from pain staking research*) but uses a weak stealth fan...with the following fan, I suspect it'd be the king.

'Sink Thermal Paste: Artic Silver 3

CPU fan: The Zalman takes a 92mm fan. With sound outa the picture (see mod below), I'd say a Vantec Tornado (112 CFM, 56 dba)

Video Card: ATI Radeon 9700 Pro with Crystal Orb heatsink. Not sure who'll make the best version of this card.

Video GPU Cooling: ThermalTake Crystal Orb with Artic Silver 3.

Video RAM Cooling: OCsystem Nickle Coated Copper RAM 'sinks.

Sound Card: Terratec DMX 6 fire 24/96

Speakers: Klipsch 4.1 (or 5.1) 400W

Communication (for dial-up): Zoom v.92 controller based with onboard DSP

Communication (for broadband): ??? I'm on dial-up, dunno much about broadband's hardware.

Case: Not sure the exact brand (probably Lian-Li). Would be an alumininum, 10 bay. Roof fan hole. I wouldn't get a window myself cause I can't see the side since it fits into my desk, but must people would

Case Fans: More opinionated here, but 3 YL Blue LED 80mm fans (32 cfm, 28 dba). One at the bottom front for intake, one at the roof between PSU and racks, and one under the PSU in the back.

Memory: Whatever the fastest DDR RAM is then, probably PC3700, CAS2. I'd say ECC too but those are for servers mostly. Would get about 512 MB. Anymore slows down windows, I heard. Corsair or Crucial desired.

Mobo: Hard to say what'll be out then. Probably an Asus, Abit, or Soltek mobo. Would need 8x support, USB 2.0, Firewire I guess, ATA133 (or Serial ATA150 if out), verbal error messages, onboard RAID and other bells and whistles, with good overclocking support. Mobo chipset would need it's own 'sink and fan.

Cables: Silver, glow in the dark, rounded ATA133(or Serial ATA150 if out) IDE cables with 24 carrot gold tips. Would get a short one though, about 18". More length = more delay.

HDD: Western Digital 200 GB, or larger if out. Hoping they'll have a serial ATA version in time.

Floppy: Panasonic LS120MB Super Floppy Drive

CD-RW: 52x burner, if it's out. Otherwise a 48x.

DVD: 16x DVD. DVD burners are just too expensive, even for this rig =P

PSU: Emermax 651W - gold coated terminals, quiet dual fans

UPS: POWMAX 1400VA (135 min.) 6 outlets

Mod: Magic Fleece Sound Absorbing Foam. With that insane CPU fan, it could use it.

Mod: Digital Doc 8 thermal management center

Mod: Thermaltake Golden Hardcano HDD cooler w/ monitoring system

Mod: SC-180 PCI cooler

Mod: Tweakmonster Rev.2 LED lightstrips and/or cold cathodes

Mod: Wire organizing twisties with adhesives

Mod: 80mm anti-dust filters and mesh with EMI/RFI shielding

Mod: Paperholding swivle arm...the things that attach onto your monitor to hold paper =)

Monitor: With deskspace in mind, and not including plasma display, a 19" LCD screen, 1280x1024 @ 75 mhz. Some company named KDS makes it.

Printer: Lexmark Z55 17 page per minute

Mouse: RazerBoomslang 2000. Or if you want wireless, then a Logitech Wireless Optical with...

Mouse Batteries: Raymax, with a Raymax 1 hr. recharger. They're made for computer-related use.

Mousepad: Belkin Gel Pad

Keyboard: Logitech Elite Keyboard

Joystick: Logitech Wingman Extreme, 7 buttons, force feedback? Dunno much about joysticks =\

Microphone: Telex M-60 Superdirectional desktop microphone

Webcam: Logitech QuickCam Pro 3000

Ahh but wait, the perfect computer needs the perfect chair!

Chair: Massaging executive leather chair - http://shop.store.yahoo.com/almktng/higexleatcha.html

Heck you might as well build the room around the computer =P
Other options would be wireless network cards, tape drives, controller cards, extra hard drives, etc. I didn't put those in the list...yet.

Comments, suggestions?

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Old Aug 19, 2002, 04:47 PM   #2
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If only I had a million dollars....

lol

Maybe one of those cheiftec cases would work? They're steel though, but the Matrix model has these holes all up and down the front...so if you put those cold cathodes in not only the side (with a window) but the front would too.

And don't forget to get a window applique with a window

Oh yeah, don't forget about the Opertons comit. You can quad-process with them
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Old Aug 19, 2002, 04:51 PM   #3
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I estimate it's about $3,800 for that thing, minus the chair. Don't forget the OS...
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what no serial ata?
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Old Aug 19, 2002, 05:17 PM   #5
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If we're including stuff like that, the list could go on and on...zip drives, tape drives, controller cards. Ahh!

EDIT: whoops, didn't know what serial ATA was till today *embarrassed*. Thought that just meant ATA on a PCI card

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Old Aug 19, 2002, 07:03 PM   #6
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Or for the highest security keyboard, get this one...has a finger print scanning security system, lmao

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If we're including stuff like that, the list could go on and on...zip drives, tape drives, controller cards. Ahh!
actually most hammer boards will have an integrated serial ata controller so no need for a separate pci controller card and its just a different hard drive... not really related to zip and tape drives (but you did include cd burner which is related )
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nearly all the hammer boards shown at computex a couple months ago had at least one onboard serial ata connection...
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Default thats ok but...

My idea of "The Best Possible PC this winter" greatly varies from what I see listed here . Some people like to think small and others are easily brainwashed by big names *cough*Creative Labs*cough* (hey, I actually have a cold right now!). You gotta thing big! Dual CPUs, at the least have water cooling, a 6 Disk SCSI 320 RAID array… need I go on?!
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i wonder if that would run morrowind ok
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Dream Gaming PC

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My favourite technology there would have to be the Solid State Storage
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i wonder if that would run morrowind ok

I would say no.....

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No amount of computer power can get that #&@&[email protected]&* game to run well..... iv resigned myself too 12 fps in Balmora....
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Cool

Looks great except for those crap Crystal Orbs. Also, get Klipsch 5.1 speakers and a RazerBoomslang 2000 mouse if you can find one! Otherwise, sounds kick a**!!!
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.. and a RazerBoomslang 2000 mouse if you can find one!
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ooooo new blood. Sounds isn't my speciality in hardware. Was just going off my basic knowledge there =O

Never heard of that mouse though, but the title of it sure sparks some interest.

What's wrong with crystal orb heatsinks? Heck I made a thread a few days ago asking what the best video 'sink is and that's all I got.

lol and I thought about the dual processors and multiple hard drives...naw, that's more like for servers. It'd be killer though nonetheless. Isn't the mobo alone for a dual processor $1k?
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lol and I thought about the dual processors and multiple hard drives...naw, that's more like for servers. It'd be killer though nonetheless. Isn't the mobo alone for a dual processor $1k?
um... no... you can get a dual xp board for ~$175... i dunno how much the dual hammer boards will be when they come out, but i cant see that they'd be much more than that...
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Awww...well I got that price estimate like 18 months ago lol. That'd be pretty sweet though, provided your not sacrificing the luxaries a normal, quality board offers.

EDIT: updated the mouse and speakers on the list =)

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um... no... you can get a dual xp board for ~$175... i dunno how much the dual hammer boards will be when they come out, but i cant see that they'd be much more than that...
Only 2 processors? According to AMD's white papers you should be able to quad-process with Hammers...with up to 32 DIMMs of DDR

Now THATS a dream machine (if it was waterproofed so all the drool wouldn't short it out )
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ahhh so it's not the best POSSIBLE. How many hard drives would be reasonable, for example? Might as well hook up a warehouse of HDDs to your rig =P
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ahhh so it's not the best POSSIBLE. How many hard drives would be reasonable, for example? Might as well hook up a warehouse of HDDs to your rig =P
Well I do think with those über-long SCSI cables that could be somewhat possible....maybe 1/10 of a warehouse the size of my bedroom...
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Cables: Silver rounded ATA133(or 166 if it's out) IDE cables with 24 carrot gold tips.
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lmao, omg @ that computer. I was trying to make mine kinda reasonable =P
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For the sound card, go get a terratec DMX6 fire LT, its a proffesional level sound card http://www.terratec.com/ttus/default.htm

way much better than crative audigy.
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Ehhhh maybe. It doesn't seem to have a front panel, which is pretty appealing to me. And I can only find a couple stores that even sell it `,'

Can you find me a 6fire vs audigy article?

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http://www.pcwelt.de/tests/hardware-tests/multimedia/ maybe you will need to translate it.
its not a comaprison but it isnt a well known product. And I made a mistake,theres 2 version of the card: the LT and the 24/96, the 24/96 has a front rack.

But what I like the most about this card is that it supports A3D 2.0
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My idea of "The Best Possible PC this winter" greatly varies from what I see listed here . Some people like to think small and others are easily brainwashed by big names *cough*Creative Labs*cough* (hey, I actually have a cold right now!). You gotta thing big! Dual CPUs, at the least have water cooling, a 6 Disk SCSI 320 RAID array… need I go on?!
Well actaully, dual processors, SCSI, and water cooling all have their fair share of cons. As oreo pointed out in a thread, duals can actaully be slower in many areas. Serial ATA should be pretty tight competition between SCSI too. Lastly, I looked at review between water cooling and the top heatsinks and the margins were pretty thin. Water came on top though, but barely (think I saw it at mikhailtech). I also read a blurb about it requiring high maintence (cleaning the water I guess?). Then your pretty limited on case selection...

btw I revised the specs again ^_^

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Well actaully, dual processors, SCSI, and water cooling all have their fair share of cons. As oreo pointed out in a thread, duals can actaully be slower in many areas. Serial ATA should be pretty tight competition between SCSI too. Lastly, I looked at review between water cooling and the top heatsinks and the margins were pretty thin. Water came on top though, but barely (think I saw it at mikhailtech). I also read a blurb about it requiring high maintence (cleaning the water I guess?). Then your pretty limited on case selection...

btw I revised the specs again ^_^
People have the wrong impression of watercooling, if you have poor air cooling then sure, watercooling is a big stepup, but if you have good cooling the temps between water and air should stay the same (except in extreme watercooling), though watercooling provides more headroom for overclocking
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