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Old Feb 1, 2019, 07:21 AM   #31
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I caved and picked this up for $49. Hope I don't regret it. The graphics and gameplay looked sweet, and I've been itching for a good single-player air combat game for years. Time to dust off my old Thrustmaster!
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I caved and picked this up for $49. Hope I don't regret it. The graphics and gameplay looked sweet, and I've been itching for a good single-player air combat game for years. Time to dust off my old Thrustmaster!
No HOTAS support yet.

Game looks amazing.
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No HOTAS support yet.

Game looks amazing.
That's ok, I just have the T.Flight stick. No HOTAS.
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Can you use head tracking with this? It's been a while since I used my track-ir for anything.
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Can you use head tracking with this? It's been a while since I used my track-ir for anything.
I don't believe so, did not see it on the options.
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Mixed result on Steam review, mostly about no 4K support, no 21:9 support, no HOTAS. Only few mention the story, gameplay etc.

But IMO the story is very weak, it wasn't as good as the weakest AC04. Fighting drones are even more ludicrous. I'm on mission 15 now, and from what I read there's only 20 missions. Your teammates AI are as useless as ever, you can't give command to them and everything rely on you to finish the mission. The new weather system with icing problem and storm adds some difficulty, but most of the mission is being blinded in storm while you painstakingly looking to kill enemies before time expires is tiring. Those toxic people in reddit even calling this game 'Cloud Combat 7'

I tried playing multiplayer once, it CTD after the timer expires. So I won't bother touching it for now.

I fixed erratic controller problem, its just some planned obsolescence Sony put on this gamepad by using thin tapes on the contact to make it loose over time. Just by putting more tape on the contact fixed it.
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My T.Flight X stick doesn't work with the game. Plus I can set the res to 2560x1080 in game but it still plays in 1920x1080.

I know these are known issues, so I'm just going to shelve this until there are fixes.

I am disappoint.
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But IMO the story is very weak, it wasn't as good as the weakest AC04. Fighting drones are even more ludicrous. I'm on mission 15 now, and from what I read there's only 20 missions. Your teammates AI are as useless as ever, you can't give command to them and everything rely on you to finish the mission. The new weather system with icing problem and storm adds some difficulty, but most of the mission is being blinded in storm while you painstakingly looking to kill enemies before time expires is tiring. Those toxic people in reddit even calling this game 'Cloud Combat 7'
Wow...

Sure looks purty though.
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My T.Flight X stick doesn't work with the game. Plus I can set the res to 2560x1080 in game but it still plays in 1920x1080.
Make sure you select full screen and not the borderless it starts out with.
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Make sure you select full screen and not the borderless it starts out with.
I did. I can get it to run in 1920x1080 stretched to 2560x1080 but it looks like crap that way.

It's not a big deal, actually. As much as I'd love to play in 21:9, the black bars on 16:9 don't bother me much.

I decided to stick with it a little longer before shelving it. Here are my thoughts:

Pros:
  • Shooting down enemy planes and bombers is a hoot.
  • Gorgeous graphics and weather effects.

Cons:
  • The voice acting is generally horrible and the in-mission music is distractingly bad. I turned the music off.
  • This is my first Ace Combat game. Has the story always been this nonsensical?
  • Bombs? I have bombs? How do I use them? There's no in-game help. Time to Google it cuz I'm dumb.
  • Joystick support requires you to either have the AC7-branded Thrustmaster HOTAS or figure out how to map your joystick so it acts like a gamepad. This will get fixed soon.
  • No native ultrawide resolution support.

Neutral:
  • I'd like to manually take off and land, but I get that this is an arcade game, not a sim.
  • It's nice to not worry about standard missile and gun ammo, but it's almost too easy to just spam AAMs at the target until one hits. Then again, I'm only a couple of missions into the campaign so maybe I'm doing it wrong.
  • No chaff or flares that I can tell. Just jinking to avoid incoming missiles. Again, I get that it's an arcade game, but that seems like a strange design choice.


Overall a 7/10 for me so far.
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Overall a 7/10 for me so far.
I will not keep playing until they add HOTAS support. Can't fly with a controller.

EDIT: Some claim to have set flightstick to work as a Steam controller. Tried to but settings would not keep.
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Cons:
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  • Joystick support requires you to either have the AC7-branded Thrustmaster HOTAS or figure out how to map your joystick so it acts like a gamepad. This will get fixed
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They will regret launching this on the PC. Should have kept it on the consoles if they couldn't be assed to add basic PC specific features like customizable input devices and wide screen support.
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[1]The voice acting is generally horrible and the in-mission music is distractingly bad. I turned the music off.

[2]This is my first Ace Combat game. Has the story always been this nonsensical?

[3]Bombs? I have bombs? How do I use them? There's no in-game help. Time to Google it cuz I'm dumb.

[4]It's nice to not worry about standard missile and gun ammo, but it's almost too easy to just spam AAMs at the target until one hits. Then again, I'm only a couple of missions into the campaign so maybe I'm doing it wrong.

[5]No chaff or flares that I can tell. Just jinking to avoid incoming missiles. Again, I get that it's an arcade game, but that seems like a strange design choice.
1 and 2. You can judge from previous game. Watch this, or just look for walkthrough for any Ace Combat (04, 5, Zero 6 etc) on Youtube:


3. Bombs are special weapon, some planes have it, some don't. Planes have 3 SP that you can purchase, ranging from long/short/medium/multiple target/quick maneuver air-to-air missile, air-to-ground missile, bombs, lasers etc. But you can only carry one type per mission.

4. On Hard you have limited guns ammo. But this is the first AC games that gives you missiles (not special ones) even when you depletes all of them.

5. There is flares in this one, there are no flares on previous AC games I play (starts from PSX and PS2). On my PS3 controller, to release flares press both analog stick together to release them.
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(a) Mmmm donuts
(b) 70c
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I did. I can get it to run in 1920x1080 stretched to 2560x1080 but it looks like crap that way.

It's not a big deal, actually. As much as I'd love to play in 21:9, the black bars on 16:9 don't bother me much.

I decided to stick with it a little longer before shelving it. Here are my thoughts:
....


Overall a 7/10 for me so far.
Thanks for the review! Watching gameplay, it looks like it could be a good replacement for great old games like X-Wing (just not in space ). I read in other reviews that the stories in Ace Combat games are always silly, though I've never played one myself.

I'm likely going to play with controller, though... you think I would need to invest in an actual stick to enjoy this? Also no 21:9 sucks, but I bet Flawlesswidescreen will add support.
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Or basic mouse support to menus.
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Thanks for the review! Watching gameplay, it looks like it could be a good replacement for great old games like X-Wing (just not in space ). I read in other reviews that the stories in Ace Combat games are always silly, though I've never played one myself.

I'm likely going to play with controller, though... you think I would need to invest in an actual stick to enjoy this? Also no 21:9 sucks, but I bet Flawlesswidescreen will add support.
If this was a console-only title, the lack of basic PC-specific features could be forgiven. Bandai Namco clearly underestimates the fury of the PC Master Race scorned.


Regardless, it's a fun game if you pretend you're playing it on a console instead of the PC.
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I don't know why I felt like this game is like Star Wars TFA for AC games. They killed old character to focus on new. It felt rushed.
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Think too many of you are trying to play it as a SIM and not as an arcade flight game. The games were never serious and the flight mechanics were always simple. I have been playing them since the PSX days (Air Combat) and they haven't changed much.
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Think too many of you are trying to play it as a SIM and not as an arcade flight game. The games were never serious and the flight mechanics were always simple. I have been playing them since the PSX days (Air Combat) and they haven't changed much.
No argument there, it's still better with a HOTAS setup regardless.
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Think too many of you are trying to play it as a SIM and not as an arcade flight game. The games were never serious and the flight mechanics were always simple. I have been playing them since the PSX days (Air Combat) and they haven't changed much.
It's more due to the fact that these are features they said would be included during all the marketing hype, then not delivered. The port was delayed 2 weeks, asking full price, with missing features, and the preorder bonuses weren't even on par with the console versions. Accepting this kind of publisher behavior, even if the game itself is good, is how we ended up with garbage like loot boxes becoming commonplace.
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It's more due to the fact that these are features they said would be included during all the marketing hype, then not delivered. The port was delayed 2 weeks, asking full price, with missing features, and the preorder bonuses weren't even on par with the console versions. Accepting this kind of publisher behavior, even if the game itself is good, is how we ended up with garbage like loot boxes becoming commonplace.
Well maybe don't preorder? That is the problem.
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Old Feb 3, 2019, 08:06 PM   #55
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Well maybe don't preorder? That is the problem.
Yeah, I just found out pre ordering is evil.
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Well maybe don't preorder? That is the problem.
Oh I didn't, no way I'm giving Namco that level of faith.
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I finished the game yesterday. It was kinda meh. Too much 'fan service' if you played the series before. It take bits of all previous games and put it somewhere, for example the first few mission the 'Golem' squad if you hear it properly it sound like 'Galm' from Ace Combat Zero, short tunnel mission similar to 'Tunnel Vision' mission from Ace Combat 3 and few more. And the story is very weak and all over the place.

On the plus side, graphics is beautiful and music live up to previous games.

I'm playing it again on Ace difficulty since I already unlocked my favorite superplane, the X-02S. And plan to unlock few others like SU-57
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If 3 fans left the station at 10:30am cooling at a temp of 63c and one fan was derailed by a stray sata cable on the track, how long would it take all 3 fans to get on Seyiji's last nerve?

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On the plus side, graphics is beautiful and music live up to previous games.

I'm playing it again on Ace difficulty since I already unlocked my favorite superplane, the X-02S. And plan to unlock few others like SU-57
Indeed, this game is made for graphics whores like me. Makes me long for the old Jane's games of old.
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