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Old Mar 3, 2021, 12:37 AM   #61
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I'd be more worried about state and federal taxes eating away at your salary rather than if you can afford a maid. If you make 150k+ you might be owing quite a bit at the of the year when you do your taxes if you don't own some property or have some way to offset taxes.
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I'd be more worried about state and federal taxes eating away at your salary rather than if you can afford a maid. If you make 150k+ you might be owing quite a bit at the of the year when you do your taxes if you don't own some property or have some way to offset taxes.
Won't the employer already deduct taxes at source before payment?
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Old Mar 3, 2021, 12:54 AM   #63
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Won't the employer already deduct taxes at source before payment?

They will but that doesnt mean you wont owe. The more pay you get the higher tax bracket youre in and it only deducts so much.
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Damn. That sucks ass.
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might be better off with Amsterdam, as i've said numerous times......
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They will but that doesnt mean you wont owe. The more pay you get the higher tax bracket youre in and it only deducts so much.
Well you can always tell them to deduct more if they are usually coming up short. This usually happens when you have other income the employer don't know about (like investment income). Usually this is done on your W-4
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KAC If you haven't learned yet, the worst thing about US taxes is actually doing them. If I get to the point where I'm getting less than $1000 back I don't think I'll even bother (assuming income doesn't dramatically decrease). "Helping people do their taxes" is a billion dollar industry... Turbo Tax is the easiest but I still procrastinate on it.

Also if you're renting and have no dependants you'll pay through the nose.

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KAC If you haven't learned yet, the worst thing about US taxes is actually doing them. If I get to the point where I'm getting less than $1000 back I don't think I'll even bother (assuming income doesn't dramatically decrease). "Helping people do their taxes" is a billion dollar industry... Turbo Tax is the easiest but I still procrastinate on it.
It gets 4 times worse if KAC gets hired as a contractor and has to pay estimated taxes 4 times a year plus the usual time everyone else does their taxes if his estimates are short. Yeah our taxes are a PITA.
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**** taxes with a pitchfork. Damn.
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Then you'll hate Canada even more and the EU as well....
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Man you guys just want to destroy my happiness. You evil Americans.
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Then you'll hate Canada even more and the EU as well....
it's not THAT bad over here. But i have to admit i have a hard time trying to imagine KAC as an american, but that might be just me, as usual
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Well you can always tell them to deduct more if they are usually coming up short. This usually happens when you have other income the employer don't know about (like investment income). Usually this is done on your W-4

True indeed, but most people dont do it the first year they file taxes cause they dont know to do that. This would be his first year in the US so Im assuming he wouldnt(also he would have no reference as too how much extra he would put in)


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Man you guys just want to destroy my happiness. You evil Americans.

Not ruining dreams just trying to temper your expectations about pay and cost of living. You might be better off staying where you are now TBH. Living in the US aint all its made out to be especially not in the suburbs or SF. Suburbs of SF are gentrifying at a nice clip but you will deal with some hooligans out there and it if your used to Dubai you are not going to be happy at all.
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Well thanks for the info either way. The reason to move to the west is always for more opportunities as I grow older. Having a job in Dubai after 50 years of age is quite an ordeal in itself. So I need to plan now where I want to end up.
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Hey, we are Americans. We are the ones that get to blame everyone else for ruining our happiness.
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Well thanks for the info either way. The reason to move to the west is always for more opportunities as I grow older. Having a job in Dubai after 50 years of age is quite an ordeal in itself. So I need to plan now where I want to end up.
Ageism is a thing over here as well. Some industries are worse than others. I've been told in tech you need to already be on the management track when you hit 40 or otherwise be an uber subject matter expert that you know you can easily find another job anywhere or be an independent consultant (DBA's immediately come to mind but I could be outdated). They won't force older folk out over here (unless maybe you're an airline pilot) but if you get laid off in the 50's it very hard to get rehired.
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Then you'll hate Canada even more and the EU as well....
the cost of living comparing toronto vs san fran is about 30% more in san fran. Combined tax rate isnt much different either. Would take kac decades to make up the housing cost difference. If kac was moving to a state with no income tax it would be different
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the cost of living comparing toronto vs san fran is about 30% more in san fran. Combined tax rate isnt much different either. Would take kac decades to make up the housing cost difference. If kac was moving to a state with no income tax it would be different
Hey at least in Canada he would have healthcare. Big thing to consider when looking at the long term.
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Hey at least in Canada he would have healthcare. Big thing to consider when looking at the long term.
Very much so, especially considering some of the outrageous costs we have to deal with in the US. I can't see anyone going longterm without it, so that's a huge factor to consider.
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the cost of living comparing toronto vs san fran is about 30% more in san fran. Combined tax rate isnt much different either. Would take kac decades to make up the housing cost difference. If kac was moving to a state with no income tax it would be different
Was comparing taxation more than housing. Toronto and Vancouver not cheap at all.
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So you gays think I will be worse off in the US as I grow older than say Europe or Canada?
It has to be better than Dubai where you can be kicked out at 30 days notice if you don’t have a job.
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