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Old Sep 21, 2006, 08:55 PM   #1
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Unhappy Our neighbor just got a pitbull

Yes, one of our neighbors just got a pitbull. We've let our boys (~1yr old & ~3yr old) play over there sometimes but no more. I'm now eyeing the open knotholes in the fence knowing that I will soon need to replace those fence boards.

Is some of the reputation pitbulls have earned unjust? Probably. But there are some risks not worth taking, and I simply can't figure out why anyone would get a dog that has such a reputation when there are so many other breeds available.
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Old Sep 21, 2006, 09:01 PM   #2
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My girlfriend's family has a pit bull, and despite it having been kidnapped at least twice and fought by retarded rednecks that are into that kinda thing, he has never bitten a person, and is an incredibly nice animal. (nurture vs. nature discussion coming soon, I can feel it)
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You have to do what you feel best protects your kids. I'm sure your neighbor will understand. With your kids you can't really afford to take chances.
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My girlfriend's family has a pit bull, and despite it having been kidnapped at least twice and fought by retarded rednecks that are into that kinda thing, he has never bitten a person, and is an incredibly nice animal. (nurture vs. nature discussion coming soon, I can feel it)
I know what you're saying and perhaps 95% with 95% of the pitbulls you'd be right. But IF a pitbull is mean, gets provoked, or whatever they simply won't let go and the statistics are grim. Because of that, I myself will never own one (or another breed that has a bad rep) nor will I allow my family to be around one. It simply isn't worth the risk, regardless of how small that actually is.

EDIT: especially considering that they are accustomed to our dog, a labrador retriever, who is the most gentle dog I've been around. Heck, even the neighborhood cats intimidate Chloe lol. The point is that they assume that all dogs are like her and will put up with anything, so they would have zero hesitation at doing something that might set a less gentle dog off. Its one thing that they're not afraid of bees - eventually one will sting them and they'll learn a painful but non-lethal lesson. Dogs can be a vastly different story.
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Old Sep 21, 2006, 09:19 PM   #5
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Its an individual basis judgement. Sorta like wonder squirrels ya know. You pick and choose.

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I think a big part of the problem is that alot of the people who are attracted to pitbulls also think its funny to abuse their dog.
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I would protect my fam and such if that ever happened to me. These dogs are just to unpredictable. Better safe than sorry.
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Lupi watch yourself and the family. Not because it's going to kill you or the kids, but because you cannot count on it not to. After hearing about all the attacks and maimings there is simply no good reason to tempt fate like that. Around here a pitbull attacked and wound up killing it's own of many years after he was playfully poking at his wife in the driveway. Setting off a loose cannon like that doesn't need to be a hostile provocation, you could accidentaly trigger it's protective nature as well.
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The pitbul was bred to kill, I can't see what kind of argument you can make to say that it's "calm".
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The pitbul was bred to kill, I can't see what kind of argument you can make to say that it's "calm".
That's true, but it's not like that...
It did not choose to be that way. It's just cause they bulldogs started humping roweilers we got this problem..


There was a guy in NYC that kept a pet alligator and a pet tiger... IIRC, he was just fine...

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Get a husky to protect your kids
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If your neighbors get ANY pet you should sew up your fencing. take no risks when it comes to your spawn.

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Board up your fence IMMEDIATELY. Take NO chances. I speak as a father of 2 (3 soon.) I would never risk my children on "Well, he was the sweetest dog! Never bit ANYBODY before" that I hear after every pitbull attack.
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Board up your fence IMMEDIATELY. Take NO chances. I speak as a father of 2 (3 soon.) I would never risk my children on "Well, he was the sweetest dog! Never bit ANYBODY before" that I hear after every pitbull attack.
Indeed. I'm sad that they can't go over there anymore (they adore the 10yr old neighbor girl who wanted the dumb dog) and its been great to have a neighbor we can trust to watch the kids. I must say, I no longer have any sadness and/or regrets that we're planning to sell and find a bigger house sometime this winter/spring.
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pitbulls, when raised in a good home, are some of the friendliest dogs around!

Honestly, I'd get my kids around that dog so much that it grows up thinking of those kids as siblings and protects them!

Pitbulls are good dogs, the media portrays them in a bad light, and I'll say that most of the time, if the pit bull bites someone it had an owner that trained it to do that. (Maybe not intentionally, but abused it, or something along those lines)
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Honestly, I'd get my kids around that dog so much that it grows up thinking of those kids as siblings and protects them!

Pitbulls are good dogs, the media portrays them in a bad light, and I'll say that most of the time, if the pit bull bites someone it had an owner that trained it to do that. (Maybe not intentionally, but abused it, or something along those lines)
I hear that all the time too. And I hear about pitbull attacks all the time, at least one a week around my area. Something is off, and I say better safe than mauled/dead child.
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"Well, he was the sweetest dog! Never bit ANYBODY before" that I hear after every pitbull attack.
Because that's definately only something you hear from pitbull attacks.
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Pitbulls are good dogs, the media portrays them in a bad light, and I'll say that most of the time, if the pit bull bites someone it had an owner that trained it to do that. (Maybe not intentionally, but abused it, or something along those lines)
Any dog can and will bite given the right conditions. The big difference is, when a pit bites or gets angry, it has the ability to kill more than most other dogs. Combine that with the fact the pit bull has been known to snap for NO REASON and attack, being extra careful about the breed is justified IMO.

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Any dog can and will bite given the right conditions. The big difference is, when a pit bites or gets angry, it has the ability to kill more than most other dogs. Combine that with the fact the pit bull has been known to snap for NO REASON and attack, being extra careful about the breed is justified IMO.

If I was in Lupine's situation I would do the same thing.
Its not just dogs, hell I have goats that bite the neighborhood kids (well.. i tell them to do that...) my guineas regularly attack the neighbor kids, and they love it, ever see a bird fly at you and then run away? funny as hell, and they chase them away! the kids wait for the guineas to go into their yard, they'll chase them for 20-30 minutes and get tired. no one gets hurt, and the guineas eat crickets and ticks!
Anyway, point it, ANY animal/human is dangerous ESPECIALLY if you have a hole in your fence, my god man! someone could just crawl in and take your kids!
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I’ve never met a nice pit-bull. I think the breed should be exterminated or at least they should all be made infertile so there are no more in the future.
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The thing with pitbulls owners saying their pitbull is always nice and never bites.....well no **** it never gets aggressive around them because they adore their owners..... the problem is when a pitbull gets loose on strangers.. it has the capacity to kill. Other dogs biting a person is different than a pitbull biting a person because a pitbull doesn't just bite it mauls.
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I remember the story of a father who went next door, and stabbed his neighbor's dog with a kitchen knife. I guess the dog bit his young son (2-4 yrs old). I don't remember the details, but as a father, if any dog mauled my son, I'd kill it too. I wouldn't be able to convict the guy for retaliating against the dog. Now the father who killed the dog is facing jail time.

Again, I don't know the details, but if the dog was supervised, as well as the parents supervising their kid(where was the father while his kid was being mauled BTW?) this should have never happened.
Unfortunately, **** does happen.
I agree with many here, I have never met a pit-bull that acts like a labrador.

Better to be safe than sorry.
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