Official Navi2x/6x00 series thread

[Nunz]

4K/80+ is not an issue on a 3080/3090. There's only a select few games that struggle to hold 60fps average..

[SuperGeil]

Originally Posted by Seyiji

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Seems really early to do a ''deep dive'' on when we only have a handful of games and one true next gen game (CP77). Many of these games were not even made with AMD in mind.

Maybe they will revisit this in a year with just current generation titles. Games post PS5/Xbox X

With that said, AMD actually looks promising considering.

[Riptide]

Asrock 6900XT phantom on the way now. Hopefully this one will overclock better than the sapphire nitro.

The nitro is going on craigslist and if I can't sell local for what I paid for it I'll ebay it. I'd sell to a forum user too. Works fine, but I can't get a good overclock out of it.

Don't judge me bro! I saw, I added to cart, and I checked out. Just how it happened.

[acroig]

The fact that you were able to get another 6900XT is nothing short of a miracle. Hope this one OCs better.

Have you actually played any games on it?

[Riptide]

Its no miracle when you watch snail monitor discord alerts from 4-5PM PDT every weekday. You have to be quick, but you have a legit shot at scoring something.

I have played some games, mainly division 2 on the nitro+. Works fine, just not a good overclocker.

[acroig]

Your determination paid off.

[Riptide]

We'll see I suppose. The asrock has 3 pci-e connectors and a higher boost clock out of the box. Whether it will overclock well or not remains to be seen, though I am cautiously optimistic.

Snail monitor alerts is good also for 3000 series cards and anyone in this forum who is still after one of those should get on that discord server and watch the newegg alerts for one hour each day.

[LordHawkwind]

Originally Posted by Riptide

We'll see I suppose. The asrock has 3 pci-e connectors and a higher boost clock out of the box. Whether it will overclock well or not remains to be seen, though I am cautiously optimistic.

Snail monitor alerts is good also for 3000 series cards and anyone in this forum who is still after one of those should get on that discord server and watch the newegg alerts for one hour each day.

Just got alerted by the site where I bought my 3090 from that they had stock of AMD cards. So I moised on over and the 6800 was £799, the 6800XT £899 and the 6900XT was £1,399 and they were all Gigabyte cards. Unbelievable. This was an hour after the notification and they still had stock, not surprisingly.

They were even selling a 5700XT for £579 which is about £150 more than I paid when it was launched

[bill dennison]

Originally Posted by LordHawkwind

Just got alerted by the site where I bought my 3090 from that they had stock of AMD cards. So I moised on over and the 6800 was £799, the 6800XT £899 and the 6900XT was £1,399 and they were all Gigabyte cards. Unbelievable. This was an hour after the notification and they still had stock, not surprisingly.

They were even selling a 5700XT for £579 which is about £150 more than I paid when it was launched

so 1080 TI 1,339.00

https://www.amazon.com/STRIX-GeForce...0560778&sr=8-3


https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=1080+ti&N=50001315


i paid 779 USD with a game

[LordHawkwind]

Originally Posted by bill dennison

so 1080 TI 1,339.00

https://www.amazon.com/STRIX-GeForce...0560778&sr=8-3

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=1080+ti&N=50001315

i paid 779 USD with a game

That company on Amazon are obviously trying to scalp the gullible stupid people who aren't gamers and don't know what they're doing. No sensible enthusiast would touch that in a million years. They do say one's born every minute though. Everything on that page is from 2017 apart from the price Sad really.

[pax]

Crazy banana prices just wont stop. They want upwards of 1300$ CAD for a vanilla 6800 on newegg. The 3090 is 1200$ CAD more than a 6900xt which is only 200$ more than a 6800 vanilla. Other than few 3090s nothing is available.

[bill dennison]

Originally Posted by LordHawkwind

That company on Amazon are obviously trying to scalp the gullible stupid people who aren't gamers and don't know what they're doing. No sensible enthusiast would touch that in a million years. They do say one's born every minute though. Everything on that page is from 2017 apart from the price Sad really.

they were selling for 1600 3 weeks after i got mine at the start of the last big bitcoin run it was a good mining card then not as much now

[Nascar24]

Originally Posted by pax

Crazy banana prices just wont stop. They want upwards of 1300$ CAD for a vanilla 6800 on newegg. The 3090 is 1200$ CAD more than a 6900xt which is only 200$ more than a 6800 vanilla. Other than few 3090s nothing is available.

Notice the seller.......

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-GeForce-G...fix=pny&sr=8-3

[Riptide]

The phantom seems to clock better than the nitro +. Timespy scores in the low 20k range. This card is able to tolerate a 1080mv undervolt. The sapphire I had did not allow undervolt less than 1135mv.

[acroig]

Originally Posted by Riptide

The phantom seems to clock better than the nitro +. Timespy scores in the low 20k range. This card is able to tolerate a 1080mv undervolt. The sapphire I had did not allow undervolt less than 1035mv.

Nice!

[acroig]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/rx-6700-xt-leak

[oap]

Got a fe3090 for £1399, done the rtx stuff, not that special tbh, would happlily swap for a 'local' 6900XT. No way i am posting this card, anyone local to p06 in uk wants to swap can come to my place, see it perform and watch me take it out and put the amd in. Straight swap only. prefer amd for the linux drivers tbh.

[LordHawkwind]

Anyone in the UK who wants an Asus Dual RX580 4gb card in retail box for £150 +pp PM & let me know. Never overclocked, or mined about 18 months old.

[pax]

https://wccftech.com/amd-fidelityfx-...e-nvidia-dlss/

AMD's much-awaited response to NVIDIA DLSS which will be known as FidelityFX Super Resolution is expected to arrive this Spring, reports Prohardvare. The solution will make use of AI-assisted ML (Machine Learning) to help boost frame rates in games running on the latest RDNA 2 GPU powered Radeon RX 6000 series graphics cards.

The difference that DLSS makes put the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 series graphics cards a league ahead of AMD's Radeon RX 6000 series. But it looks like AMD's solution is now much close to its official launch with the company planning to release a major Adrenaline Radeon driver release around March 2021 which would include two major updates. The first is obviously the addition of FiedlityFX Super Resolution while the second is an update to Radeon Boost.

https://prohardver.hu/hir/uj_radeon_...gozik_amd.html

The new Radeon Boost introduces an alternative method to DirectX 12 addresses. The speed advantage will actually come similar to the original implementation, only the disadvantages mentioned above will be eliminated. The company achieves this by taking advantage of the variable shading rate for ROP blocks built into RDNA 2-architecture Radeons. The new Boost now gets the acceleration from this, and when applied to supported DirectX 12 games, there will be a specific pattern that maps the center of the frame and other nearly static parts of it, even in motion, at full resolution. The changes virtually eliminate the trade-offs in image quality discussed in the previous paragraph.

We also questioned the much-anticipated FidelityFX Super Resolution process, which uses AI scaling, but this, unlike the competing DLSS, will not be part of the graphics driver at AMD, but will work as a standalone, in-game effect. Its only requirement on the graphical device driver side is support for the DirectML API, which is already solved in the PC market.

Sounds cool but not sure how this is meant to work... api level only?

[Trunks0]

It looking very likely it requires a game to implement it.

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-fide...ch-this-spring

At Radeon RX 6000 series launch AMD made a promise it will launch its own version of the AI-powered super-resolution technology. The company has not provided any details whatsoever on how would it work or when exactly should we expect it to be available. AMD has only hinted it could be based on Microsoft DirectML technology, but at the same time AMD revealed that its DLSS competitor would launch as a part of the FidelityFX technology package. Thus, it is unclear if AMD has plans to stick to DirectML and push the gaming market into a single standard, or rather create their own implementation that will require collaboration from game studios. The slide from AMD does however suggest it might be the latter option:

[SuperGeil]

Great news as every xbox game that comes out on PC will most likely support it in the near future. It seems like one of those things that would be silly not to implement it on the series s&x, and from there not to port it to PC. Unless game works or TWIMTBP gets in the way. * should be its own thread by the way

[LordHawkwind]

Originally Posted by SuperGeil

Great news as every xbox game that comes out on PC will most likely support it in the near future. It seems like one of those things that would be silly not to implement it on the series s&x, and from there not to port it to PC. Unless game works or TWIMTBP gets in the way. * should be its own thread by the way

Originally Posted by SuperGeil

Don't worry, most AAA games are poorly optimized benchmark suites for grossly overpriced video cards these days.

A bit contradictory don't you think. Make your mind up.

[SuperGeil]

Originally Posted by LordHawkwind

A bit contradictory don't you think. Make your mind up.

Not sure how that is contradictory. You can have badly optimized games with DLSS and Super resolution added in them. Badly optimized games will probably depend on them.

[pax]

Mesh shader test show rtx ahead along the same lines as RT... might explain why AMD is touting much improved geormetry in the next gen navi3.


https://videocardz.com/newz/ul-relea...amd-rdna2-gpus

NVIDIA Ampere: 702%
AMD RDNA2: 547%
NVIDIA Turing (RTX): 409%
NVIDIA Turing: 244%

But who knows there might a driver for the new 3dmark test incoming...

[pax]

Yep new driver ups the perf almost 2x...


https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/re...rad-win-21-2-2

https://videocardz.com/newz/ul-relea...amd-rdna2-gpus

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Et-Z57qX...jpg&name=small

[acroig]

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/97...ion/index.html

[pax]

Saphirre Toxic!

https://twitter.com/SapphireTech/sta...14788593332225

https://twitter.com/i/status/1361314788593332225

[LordHawkwind]

Originally Posted by pax

Saphirre Toxic!

https://twitter.com/SapphireTech/sta...14788593332225

https://twitter.com/i/status/1361314788593332225

More nonsense about a non existent card that's not going to be availabe for months or if ever and will probably cost over $2,000. Sapphire need to concentrate on their Pulse and Nitro cards which are also non-existant in the retail channel rather than promote more unicorn cards. Same goes for Nvidia 3080ti's.

Both camps need to supply the cards they launched months ago rather than keep promoting new models that we all know will be a joke launch. Sad really.

[bill dennison]

Originally Posted by LordHawkwind

More nonsense about a non existent card that's not going to be availabe for months or if ever and will probably cost over $2,000. Sapphire need to concentrate on their Pulse and Nitro cards which are also non-existant in the retail channel rather than promote more unicorn cards. Same goes for Nvidia 3080ti's.

Both camps need to supply the cards they launched months ago rather than keep promoting new models that we all know will be a joke launch. Sad really.

AMD launched 3 months ago without the AIB's
i kind of like them taking their time and getting the designs right as they got it with few chips

now the chips well both TSMC and Samsung are short on needed materials too make them because of a pandemic so supply may take a few more months

[pax]

Originally Posted by LordHawkwind

More nonsense about a non existent card that's not going to be availabe for months or if ever and will probably cost over $2,000. Sapphire need to concentrate on their Pulse and Nitro cards which are also non-existant in the retail channel rather than promote more unicorn cards. Same goes for Nvidia 3080ti's.

Both camps need to supply the cards they launched months ago rather than keep promoting new models that we all know will be a joke launch. Sad really.

I expect any msrp stock by summer for both camps... its just nice to see the toxic make a comeback.

Theres also a rumor of wc ver from saphirre thats even more high end. Its nice to see the diversity and quality of cooling for the new gpus.