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Old Dec 2, 2019, 10:38 AM   #1
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KAC is waiting for you to post the battle of the $1000 (tax free) GPU article.
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WOW! This thread is making me want to upgrade my GTX 1070 to an RTX 2060 Super....still wondering how the RTX 2060 Super will perform on my 6700k at stock 4.0GHz clock speed (can't really OC since it already goes to 75*C in CPU heavy games)...

It looks as if Red Dead Redemption 2 can run at 1440p on the 2060 better than my 1070 does at 1080p

Then again....I'm not really in a rush to upgrade unless there is a sale, and if I have another use for my current 1070.

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That 5700 XT looks amazing for the price. I've almost always been an NV buyer though...don't know why I would be hesitant to buy AMD. The last one I used Higgy sold me and it did just fine.

edit: Probably just memories of earlier ATI cards giving me grief I guess. Once bitten and all that...
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That 5700 XT looks amazing for the price. I've almost always been an NV buyer though...don't know why I would be hesitant to buy AMD. The last one I used Higgy sold me and it did just fine.

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One word? Drivers. nV always has prior to new game release. AMD not always.
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One word? Drivers. nV always has prior to new game release. AMD not always.
Could be, although they seemed pretty stable on the....jeez my memory is shot Rsomething lol....

I think I may give one a shot when I upgrade early next year....
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Could be, although they seemed pretty stable on the....jeez my memory is shot Rsomething lol....

I think I may give one a shot when I upgrade early next year....
, lots of value on that 5700
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One word? Drivers. nV always has prior to new game release. AMD not always.
past for the most that is part other than NV games
and NV has the same problem with AMD games

and 3 words (geforce experience sucks) and the driver UI ( nvidia control panel ) is from like windows 3


AMD Adrenalin 2019 has all game management like (geforce experience) built in to one driver and better UI
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3327...19-update.html


if AMD can beat my 2080 ti strix by just 5% to 10% I will buy one just to get rid of NV's 1990's driver UI


and the games themselves don't work on release anymore so you got a few days grace for drivers

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past for the most that is part other than NV games
and NV has the same problem with AMD games

and 3 words (geforce experience sucks) and the driver UI ( nvidia control panel ) is from like windows 3


AMD Adrenalin 2019 has all game management like (geforce experience) built in to one driver and better UI
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3327...19-update.html


if AMD can beat my 2080 ti strix by just 5% to 10% I will buy one just to get rid of NV's 1990's driver UI


and the games themselves don't work on release anymore so you got a few days grace for drivers
5-10% isn't a lot. Why not just go with the company you prefer?
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There's nothing wrong with NV control panel though. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And who the hell wants GeForce experience anyway.. why would I want game management or some crappy auto-detect settings. These are noob options that shouldn't be swaying your decision on a GPU.
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past for the most that is part other than NV games
and NV has the same problem with AMD games

and 3 words (geforce experience sucks) and the driver UI ( nvidia control panel ) is from like windows 3


AMD Adrenalin 2019 has all game management like (geforce experience) built in to one driver and better UI
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3327...19-update.html


if AMD can beat my 2080 ti strix by just 5% to 10% I will buy one just to get rid of NV's 1990's driver UI


and the games themselves don't work on release anymore so you got a few days grace for drivers
Nv doesn't have the same problems as AMD in games. In fact NV tends to be more stable due to their routine launch day drivers for new games. Like it or not, AMD is actually behind on this.

Also, not sure why you keep bringing up Geforce Experience. It's optional software. And for those who use it for Ansel or streaming, it doesn't suck. There's no better video capture software other than the native tool Nvidia provides in GFE. But if you're like me and many others who have no use for it, don't download it.

Also I very much like NV's control panel. Simple and to the point. I don't want this to change, don't need no fancy skins or gimmicks, just quick to the point settings. It's easy to use and powerful enough that nobody needs to use tools like NV inspector anymore, which was "must have" software years ago. It was useful for changing SLI bits but even that's no longer relevent, the control panel has a myriad of SLI settings in the control panel for those still using SLI. Or people used to use it for AA bits for specific games. Again, Nvidia throws so many advanced AA options at you in the control panel itself, no need to use a 3rd party tool anymore.
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There's nothing wrong with NV control panel though. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And who the hell wants GeForce experience anyway.. why would I want game management or some crappy auto-detect settings. These are noob options that shouldn't be swaying your decision on a GPU.
being able to open each game settings in the driver for each game was nice the last time I used AMD Adrenalin I mostly used it for crossfire settings in each game


the only thing I use GeForce experience for is to load the new driver and tell me when a new one is out
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being able to open each game settings in the driver for each game was nice the last time I used AMD Adrenalin I mostly used it for crossfire settings in each game


the only thing I use GeForce experience for is to load the new driver and tell me when a new one is out
You can do per game settings with nV control panel as well.

I use GFE for new driver notifications only as well.
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Why use GFE for new driver notifications? There's uh... the intern nets n stuff.
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Why use GFE for new driver notifications? There's uh... the intern nets n stuff.
It's handy.
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You can do per game settings with nV control panel as well.

I use GFE for new driver notifications only as well.
and I could use a abacus instead of a calculator also

sorry I have never liked nV control panel even in windows 3

and new driver notifications is build into the Adrenalin driver

and you don't have to resign in to get on every update to driver notifications or load the new driver
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and it is a old myth NV drivers are more stable today with a single card

maybe with multi gpu and under old CFX like around the 7970 and older but they turned CFX around with 290x CF and newer

till they killed SLI & CFX with mantle and dx12

game developers will never support it till they have to when most cards are MCM

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Setting per game profiles in the CP is easy. Where's the difficulty coming from?

About that myth...nvidia has more frequent game ready drivers right at launch for pretty much every major release (and even minor ones). AMD has a slower driver release schedule. It's not just about stability, because all games are generally going to be stable regardless of driver version (provided it isn't too old). It's the performance and bug fixes as well.
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About that myth...nvidia has more frequent game ready drivers right at launch for pretty much every major release (and even minor ones).
Agreed.
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Game ready drivers are a myth from both sides of the aisle.

Sometimes broken sometimes placebo. Both companies have dropped the ball in this regard.

Nvidias CP is fine. What's a crime against humanity is the lack of a proper feature rich control panel for the .1% who use linux. Won't somebody think of the pengins !__!

Also y'all clearly dont visit the Radeon software forum

http://www.rage3d.com/board/forumdisplay.php?f=59

Lots of driver releases posted there with day 1 and sometimes day 0 support for new games ^_^
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