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Old Jul 3, 2008, 09:04 PM   #241
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If there was Hell in the original Diablo, why not Heaven?
er yeah, missed the point, hell looked like hell.

gameplayer trailer didnt look like "heaven" to me
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Old Jul 3, 2008, 11:16 PM   #242
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Yea i know, but i waited for him to pop his first, he was down to 30% and i still had 65-70% hp left and he popped it and it went up to like 90 ...

I was pretty pissed, but then i started popping my own and it became micromanage madness
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Old Jul 3, 2008, 11:27 PM   #243
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Yea i know, but i waited for him to pop his first, he was down to 30% and i still had 65-70% hp left and he popped it and it went up to like 90 ...

I was pretty pissed, but then i started popping my own and it became micromanage madness
The hell kind of pansy ass barbarian could pop a pot and go from 30->90%? A full rejuv would have topped him off, and even the biggest healing potions did pretty insignificant amounts of healing for a barbarian. Only way that would make sense is if he popped two little juvies.
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Old Jul 3, 2008, 11:29 PM   #244
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Hey man, i wasnt behind his keyboard, i cant tell ya the exact truth.

All i know is that i lost and he had 3% hp left. I was pretty pissed but it was so epic
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Old Jul 3, 2008, 11:53 PM   #245
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Hmm...maybe this will be the first time I play a Diablo game.
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Old Jul 4, 2008, 12:05 AM   #246
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Hey man, i wasnt behind his keyboard, i cant tell ya the exact truth.

All i know is that i lost and he had 3% hp left. I was pretty pissed but it was so epic
Should have been playing hardcore and you'd have been really pissed.

Eh, I made a concentrate barb once that had well over 8k health. He was nigh invulnerable, but couldn't really hurt more than one target at a time.

That was fine for dueling though... crushing blow ftw!
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Old Jul 4, 2008, 03:59 AM   #247
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It was on hardcore. that pally was my pride and joy too.

Lvl84 Zealadin / auradin. He was freakin awesome. makes me wanna go back and remake one for the enjoyement of it
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Old Jul 10, 2008, 12:42 PM   #248
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the art style is absolutely amazing... and yet people are already complaining about the game and it's graphics .
I don't dislike the art style, but don't find it 'absolutely amazing' either. It looks like the style in which Warcraft 3 was done.
Not bad but what I really wanted was super high resolution 2D graphics.
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I don't dislike the art style, but don't find it 'absolutely amazing' either. It looks like the style in which Warcraft 3 was done.
Not bad but what I really wanted was super high resolution 2D graphics.
Can the camera rotate in this game? If not, 3D is useless and agree 2D could be much better.
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Old Jul 10, 2008, 05:14 PM   #250
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Can the camera rotate in this game? If not, 3D is useless and agree 2D could be much better.
I remember reading that the camera is fixed. I could be wrong though.
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Yes the camera is fixed. You cannot rotate it (you can do an instant zoom towards your character as seen in the gameplay video but it isn't playable like that)

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Can the camera rotate in this game? If not, 3D is useless and agree 2D could be much better.
3D will allow users to select any resolution they want, from 800x600 to 2560x1600 or whatever custom aspect ratio's they want.
Which is the one thing that Diablo2/Starcraft had against it.
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Old Jul 11, 2008, 05:07 AM   #252
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Even if it's possible to rotate the camera it would be useless since this isn't an RTS where you control hundreds of units and sometimes they get hidden behind buildings.
The only purpose camera rotation would achieve here is to view your uber armours from every possible angle.

Moreover a Diablo map would basically cover the entire game world and allowing gamers to pan here and there would be stupid.

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I don't dislike the art style, but don't find it 'absolutely amazing' either. It looks like the style in which Warcraft 3 was done.
Not bad but what I really wanted was super high resolution 2D graphics.
art style != graphics
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I know that obviously. I just wanted Diablo 3 to be in high resolution 2D.
Another interesting way would have been to do it in a pseudo-3D style with environments done in 3D and characters and monsters in voxels.

This is ok too, but nothing really incredible like TF2 or Street Fighter 4.
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tf2 is genre-(re)defining... that's something that blizzard never does. it still looks great, that's what matters.
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Old Jul 12, 2008, 10:28 AM   #256
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it still looks great, that's what matters.
it doesnt, it looks like WoW, its going to **** with my mind that im playing WoW and then ill feel dirty and violated that im playing that piece of ****.
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it doesnt, it looks like WoW, its going to **** with my mind that im playing WoW and then ill feel dirty and violated that im playing that piece of ****.
and you will continue to play it anyway
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nah, im not going to get it.
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Another interesting way would have been to do it in a pseudo-3D style with environments done in 3D and characters and monsters in voxels.
Which would help nothing, the art would be the same (and now it'll look crappy too because voxels doesnt exactly make good characters in 3D, unless you use an insano-amount no computer can handle).

The engine has nothing to do with its WoW-iness. Quite the contrary, the move to full 3D can only bring good things in terms of animations, effects and physics.

Its not like people played Titan Quest and went "OMG its 3D and it got ragdoll, I want my 2D and sprites back "
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nah, im not going to get it.
why bother to complain about it if you're not even planning to play it
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why bother to complain about it if you're not even planning to play it
Because i can.
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Because i can.
you must lead a very happy life
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you have no idea.
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No. Its not. Not by a longshot.

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Innovation does not a good game make. Polish is, and its what Blizzard does better than any other developers on the planet.

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It really doesn't. It looks like something made in Torque.
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No. Its not. Not by a longshot.
in terms of graphics, yes it is. how many other cartoony first person shooters have you played that were this good?

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It really doesn't. It looks like something made in Torque.
i don't get why you people are complaining about the graphics. if it offends your sensibilities so much, then don't play the game. there isn't any need to ***** about it.
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i don't get why you people are complaining about the graphics. if it offends your sensibilities so much, then don't play the game. there isn't any need to ***** about it.
Agreed!

Everyone including alot of you people complaining about it have been waiting for a Diablo 3 for how long now? and now finally there going to be releasing one you should all be happy about it but instead you non stop ***** about the graphics and crap... if you hate it that much and want it to look like the other Diablo games then go play them and dont even bother buying and playing D3 and stay outta this thread.... its kind of pathetic really. If you hate the graphics that much then write a letter to Blizzard.

I on the other hand will buy it and enjoy playing it because ive wanted another Diablo 3 for a long time now regardless of the graphics, just like Starcraft 2.
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As far as art-style is concerned, TF2 is the breakthrough of the decade.
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Everyone including alot of you people complaining about it have been waiting for a Diablo 3 for how long now?
I haven't been waiting for it at all, i haven't even played d2, cept the shareware, and i've only play bits of d1 when i used to own it. They were nothing special in the first place to warrant the insane amount of hype you lot pour into it,

Hell dungeon siege 1 was better. (least the multiplayer part, ahh the memories of those months i spent playing it with my other half) I was only interested in d3 to relieve those months of coop ds and the unneeded lame wow art style as seriously put me off my dinner.
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in terms of graphics, yes it is. how many other cartoony first person shooters have you played that were this good?
Thats not revolutionary by any stretch the imagination. How about XIII? Even NOLF had a cartoony look to it. Visuals don't make a genre, so how the hell can they be genre redefining?

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if you hate it that much and want it to look like the other Diablo games then go play them and dont even bother buying and playing D3 and stay outta this thread.... .
It's a forum. Where people share opinions. Maybe this concept is too much for you but I'd suggest you two finish your circle jerk and get used to it.
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It's a forum. Where people share opinions. Maybe this concept is too much for you but I'd suggest you two finish your circle jerk and get used to it.
Well said, it's hard concept for a lot of people.
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