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Old Aug 19, 2019, 01:37 PM   #1
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Not long after I bought my Super Sport I had Kumho Solus TA71 installed. They receive high reviews but I was kind of sceptical. They do come factory on higher end KIA and Hyundai vehicle's.
Anyway on to the subject. I cannot keep them in balance.
They've been rebalanced three times they're good for a week or two then they go out from 55 to 68. I've taken the car to have the front end checked. Left outer tie rod replaced and four wheel alignment. Rebalanced still comes back. Ideas?

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Old Aug 19, 2019, 01:51 PM   #2
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Have they been road force balanced? Maybe they need match mounting? Are the tires slowly slipping on the wheels and messing up the balance?
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Old Aug 19, 2019, 02:09 PM   #3
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All possibilities. In a town my size I don't know of anyone who road force balances tires. I'll have to look into that. I really don't brake or launch the car hard but they could still be slipping. When I do get them rebalanced I'll mark the tires to be sure.
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Old Aug 19, 2019, 04:22 PM   #4
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On which car?

I have had this issue with Falken tires a while back.

It sounds like you need but did not get XL tires for your vehicle...
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Old Aug 19, 2019, 06:01 PM   #5
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On which car?

I have had this issue with Falken tires a while back.

It sounds like you need but did not get XL tires for your vehicle...
2009 Impala SS. I put 235/50R18 on it which is the factory size and it has the factory aluminum wheels on it. GM doesn't call for XL tires for this car. But I do suspect I chose a poor brand regardless of reviews.
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What are you keeping the tire pressure at?

How old is the suspension on the car?

My parents Hyundai was an evil prick, it shifted and would destroy the front tires. Took a front strut tower bar to lock it down. Had a Sonoma that would drive around the block and abd it wouldn't be aligned, even the mechanic was stumped because everything was tight or new.
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Old Aug 19, 2019, 08:23 PM   #7
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What are you keeping the tire pressure at?

How old is the suspension on the car?

My parents Hyundai was an evil prick, it shifted and would destroy the front tires. Took a front strut tower bar to lock it down. Had a Sonoma that would drive around the block and abd it wouldn't be aligned, even the mechanic was stumped because everything was tight or new.
The car has 40,000 miles on it. 35 psi. I've had the suspension checked along with the frontend. Only thing wrong was one outer tie rod which was replaced. Alignment was done with no problems. I should note the Goodyear's that came on it I had no problem with. They just needed changed because of tread wear.
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Old Aug 20, 2019, 10:21 AM   #8
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A thing to remember is that GM OE tires aren't made the same as the street ones. So the stockers might have lacked the XL tag but have been built up to hold more weight than the normal tires.

Either that or you rolled unlucky and got a bum set of tires. It happens. Next set I'd suggest the XL rating on the tires.

Is it just the fronts going out of wack?
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Old Aug 20, 2019, 12:44 PM   #9
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Yep just the fronts. I'm going Friday to have them force balanced if that doesn't work I'll live with it for awhile and think about new wheels and tires.
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Yeah, then the tires are definitely not holding up under the weight being put on them.

The joys of FWD. It will be interesting to see if the fancy balancing helps. You may want to try rotating them too.
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Old Aug 20, 2019, 06:35 PM   #11
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Yeah, then the tires are definitely not holding up under the weight being put on them.

The joys of FWD. It will be interesting to see if the fancy balancing helps. You may want to try rotating them too.
Yes FWD with over 300hp doesn't help. Eh maybe I'll test drive a V8 Camaro or Mustang. I'm already getting bored with this.
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Yes FWD with over 300hp doesn't help. Eh maybe I'll test drive a V8 Camaro or Mustang. I'm already getting bored with this.
Why are you using such crap tires with "over 300hp" FWD?

Could be anything in the drive train or suspension making it feel like an out of balance tire too.
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Why are you using such crap tires with "over 300hp" FWD?

Could be anything in the drive train or suspension making it feel like an out of balance tire too.
You've hit the nail on the head I think. While looking online they were on sale and since that brand came on my wife's 1919 KIA and had good reviews I thought they'd be good to go. But apparently they are indeed crap.
I've checked and had checked everything I can think of. Bushings, bearings, tie rods and I keep coming back to sucky tires. Well off to a good brand then.
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Have they started bulging on the sidewalls?
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Have they started bulging on the sidewalls?
No nothing obvious at all. Just a slight bounce from 55 to 68. Crap like that drives me crazy. OCD I guess.
I've watched them rebalance the tires. No obvious broken belts or anything.
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You could try using balancing beads instead of weights. They toss the beads inside the tire and they dynamically balance it.

It's kinda nifty and it worked for me. It is more expensive though than fixed weight balancing.
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I had them Road Force Balance the tires Friday. So far so good. If that doesn't work I may try those balance beads or a better set of tires.
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Question answered. Two of the tires were totally out of acceptable specifications two were fine. Balanced them all with the the road force balance machine which did a much better job. The two that I guess are seconds are one the rear the two good on the front. It's much better now. But, I can't rotate the tires. I'm going to wear them out like this and consider it a lesson learned.
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Might I suggest a few donut runs with the handbrake to move things along?
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Might I suggest a few donut runs with the handbrake to move things along?
Hard to do on a FWD. I could power brake the back end with handbrake. That'll swing it around.
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