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Old Jun 22, 2022, 08:48 PM   #6061
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So for the layman, what causes these spikes and why can't nV keep them in check?
This. Somewhere there is an issue that should not be occurring.
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Old Jun 22, 2022, 09:03 PM   #6062
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This. Somewhere there is an issue that should not be occurring.
Article specified EVGA (which I happen to own) and when I got the 3080Ti I was forced to get a new PSU due to the same issue. Old PSU is working fine on a 3080.
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Old Jun 22, 2022, 09:22 PM   #6063
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Article specified EVGA (which I happen to own) and when I got the 3080Ti I was forced to get a new PSU due to the same issue. Old PSU is working fine on a 3080.
didn't say much about AMD and transients at all

i would suppose AMD has them also but i have not seen them but then i got my 6900 xt on a good 1200 PSU
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Old Jun 23, 2022, 01:53 AM   #6064
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They're actually running instant rebates!

I guess that really demonstrates how much the supply/demand balance has shifted.
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Old Jun 23, 2022, 05:11 AM   #6065
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Article specified EVGA (which I happen to own) and when I got the 3080Ti I was forced to get a new PSU due to the same issue. Old PSU is working fine on a 3080.
Part of that problem is the PSU, not just the GPU. The transient spikes have always been there, it's just exacerbated by the higher power draw of Ampere - PCIE 5.0 PSUs and this next gen of hardware have much tighter restrictions for how the PSU handles those transients. You have PSU manufacturers that were doing the bare minimum or leaving their transient response weak.. but can't do that anymore.

Samsung 8nm is also partly to blame for that higher power draw. The other end is the high power design to eek out an extra couple % performance by NV.
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Old Jun 23, 2022, 05:55 AM   #6066
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Thanks Nunz, that makes sense.

Still worried about power requirements for nV 4000 series.
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Old Jun 28, 2022, 06:04 AM   #6067
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Old Jun 28, 2022, 06:36 AM   #6068
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Was a dope af card that basically is a 3080 Ti. Too bad wasn’t cracked for mining so I had to sell mine and upgrade to a 3080 Ti for secondary rig.
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Still worried about power requirements for nV 4000 series.
Same here. Put a 1600w evga gold in this desktop machine last week. Is this going to be enough or do I need a 220v circuit and dual power supplies?
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Think there is no issue with power supplies except need for connectors in the future that might be different. Hence why I didn’t bother getting a new PSU just yet until I am assured about the connectivity.
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Think there is no issue with power supplies except need for connectors in the future that might be different. Hence why I didn’t bother getting a new PSU just yet until I am assured about the connectivity.
Good call.
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I think this will be their answer to 4000 series power requirements.

https://www.evga.com/products/produc...600-PL-1648-LR
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Old Jun 30, 2022, 09:33 AM   #6075
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How would the Powerlink be an answer?
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I think this will be their answer to 4000 series power requirements.

https://www.evga.com/products/produc...600-PL-1648-LR
A solution where the converter is behind the MB tray/under the psu shroud like the ones that seasonic sells would be way more elegant and qualify for statements such as NEXT-GEN cable management, the EVGA gadget is dumb, you still have four visible 8-pin cables.

https://www.pcgamer.com/seasonic-mad...le-management/

https://singularitycases.com/product...d-5000-series/

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This is what a next-gen solutions looks like.
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How would the Powerlink be an answer?
For PSUs that don't have a 16 pin power connector?
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For PSUs that don't have a 16 pin power connector?
The cards are supplied with a 16pin adapter. The Powerlink is some weird extra thing EVGA sells to suckers.
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The cards are supplied with a 16pin adapter. The Powerlink is some weird extra thing EVGA sells to suckers.
That makes sense.
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I got one of those EVGA Powerlink things free with my son's RTX 3060 and did try it out but I found it to be not too secure and a bit cheap feeling. Opted to throw it in the trash. No wonder they were giving them free with video card purchases.
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https://www.microcenter.com/product/...A-34E98A2628EE

$1,350 for a 3090, times have changed.
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Too expensive. Guys selling 3090s for 1150-1200 for past 2 months.

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Too expensive. Guys selling 3090s for 1150-1200 for past 2 months.
This is a brand new product though.

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1- why buy anything last gen now with the new cards coming from both AMD and NV soon


2 - I would not buy any card used now most will be mining cards no matter what the seller says unless you know the seller well

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if you have to have a card in the next 3 months buy it from EVGA and hope you can step up
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1- why buy anything last gen now with the new cards coming from both AMD and NV soon


2 - I would not buy any card used now most will be mining cards no matter what the seller says unless you know the seller well

used mining cards no warranty lots of bad fans and low overclocks

if you have to have a card in the next 3 months buy it from EVGA and hope you can step up
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1- why buy anything last gen now with the new cards coming from both AMD and NV soon


2 - I would not buy any card used now most will be mining cards no matter what the seller says unless you know the seller well

used mining cards no warranty lots of bad fans and low overclocks

if you have to have a card in the next 3 months buy it from EVGA and hope you can step up
I might not buy a used current gen card at this point. But nothing wrong with still buying current gen when new cards are close to release. Just because something new comes out doesn't mean the last gen stuff is all of a sudden trash.

Matter of fact probably better to buy current right now simply because availability and pricing coming back to normal. When the new stuff launches its going to be hard to get and expensive. Who wants to deal with that bullshit again.
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