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![]() This month has been a frustrating one for us pc gamers, with the release of Dragon Age 2 and Crysis 2 being dissapointments.But after buying Crysis 2 for pc yesterday it really frustrates me to see what developers are doing with the medium.This dumbing down of the product for mass market has got to stop, i want my games for pc like they used to be.To me it just reeks of a quick buck and lack of a real commitment to delivering a a + quality product that pc gamers really deserve. p.s... arghh i miss the quick save feature {crysis 2} Last edited by Mrpleeb : Mar 23, 2011 at 03:22 PM. |
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![]() yeah i'm on a 260 GT card and have no reason to upgrade just yet for PC gaming. To be honest, i've not seen graphics on my PC like I have on my PS3. Graphically the PS3, some games, surpass the PC, a 4 year old system ! I'll probably upgrade for Skyrim and Guild Wars II and Rage. The future isnt bleak, you also have Homefront and Brink. D |
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![]() Skyrim and BF3 will start turning the tide once again. Those glorified toaster ovens have had their day. |
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Right now the PC has a Mhz and GPU advantage however is suffers from moving hardware targets and a high draw call overhead. The former makes it a pain to dev for (I've spent the last couple of weeks now working around hardware/driver bugs for our game) and the latter we have to soak up and just deal with due to the single thread Mhz advantage PCs still have. Jump forward 3 years which is when most people seem to think the next consoles will hit/have it; consoles will have more and FASTER cores (and with the Mhz race over PCs wont be out pacing them), DX11+ GPUs as standard and the ability to construct draw lists over multiple threads thus making submission/draw faster meaning more draw calls and more stuff on screen and looking better. Now, unless MS and the IHVs do something the PC is likely to still be restricted to single threaded draw calls (right now DX11's multi-threaded command list construction either slows things down on AMD hardware or effectively loses you a CPU core on NV hardware) and suddenly regardless of how fast your GPU is the consoles are blowing you out of the water draw call wise meaning the PC can't match a console in 'stuff on screen'. We are already kinda at this point, the PC is only 'saved' by having the Mhz advantage but unless something changes that advantage will go away pretty quickly. (Right now MS are blaming the IHVs and the IHVs are blaming MS and there is crazy talk about ditching DX and going 'to the metal' which I don't think anyone has really thought about as hard as they should have done. In short, it's a bit of a mess...) |
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![]() Wow, what an over-played, beaten-to-death, uninteresting topic with an OP completely devoid of insight or novel analysis.
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![]() But I guess that's to be expected, considering that it's an FPS made for gamepads...
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![]() ^ You mean like Far Cry? The (initial) lack of quick saves was the only thing that made it difficult so I don't know how quick saves would make a game more 'hardcore'. Crysis also had gamepad support and Crysis 2 has the exact same controls. |
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![]() PS word is Microsoft is waiting until 2015 for the next gen...
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![]() Yes consolity and simplicity is strong on the AAA PC game market now, but theres always the indie game developers to make me have hope on PC gaming.
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![]() i bought my self a 480 gtx 3 months ago at 500 bucks US. i feel kinda lame to do this upgrade, solding the 4890 for the 480 gtx , which cost me about 500 bucks. amazing i have a 480gtx just for PHotoshop, Web browsing. And really 0 hours of gaming since i bought it. so in my opinion, it is kinda a waste to do any upgrade to the pc nowaday, Your dont' need anything above a 8800gtx and a core2dual setup, since game itself is really not that interesting anymore. Last edited by wc326 : Mar 24, 2011 at 01:08 AM. |
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![]() DICE. BF3. PC gaming rebirth.
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![]() I r PC gamer. I iz smart? Dumbing down is not equal to consolization. It's just dumbing down for the ADD generation. That's it. WoW has been dumbed down and it's a PC title. |
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![]() is this supposed to be the best looking game on PC todate?? IMO even COD, looks tons better THis is from PC version |
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![]() Don't buy games that are console ports. Pirate them. It's what they deserve. |
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![]() No, i have a different concept about indie developers them you, to me even if Crytek is a independent developer imo it is not a indie developer the same with Valve, to me indie teams are ones with small teams and budgets, teams like Zero Point Software, Wolfire Games, Frictional Games, Unknown Worlds, etc. It should exist a distinction, because is not fair for the small teams to have a giant AAA developer being called indie.
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