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Old Oct 30, 2019, 01:29 PM   #1
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"First off, NVIDIA's new Ampere-based cards should arrive to consumers in the GeForce RTX 3070, GeForce RTX 3080, and GeForce RTX 3080 Ti if NVIDIA follow the same release plans as the GeForce RTX 2070, RTX 2080, and RTX 2080 Ti launch. These cards are going to be faster, offer more VRAM, and hell they're even reportedly going to be cheaper. NVIDIA's new GeForce RTX 3000 series will feature "massive" performance improvements for ray tracing, with Ampere's iteration of ray tracing being faster than Turing, and more power efficient. Another area where Ampere will receive some big upgrades is Rasterization, which blended in with the advancements in ray tracing on Ampere, we will have enough power to render next-gen graphics and next-gen worlds in games."

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Old Oct 30, 2019, 01:56 PM   #2
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NV doesn't care and never has about "backlash"
only AMD can get them to lower prices at this point
and that is only a low maybe as their top coming cards is said to be close to a 2080 supper


till I see it at Newegg and Amazon I won't believe it .
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Old Oct 30, 2019, 02:02 PM   #3
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NV doesn't care and never has about "backlash"
only AMD can get them to lower prices at this point
and that is only a low maybe as their top coming cards is said to be close to a 2080 supper


till I see it at Newegg and Amazon I won't believe it .
100% with you bro. Not buying a word of it.
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X, doubt.
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These need to come out sooner than later. I think my 1080ti is starting to go. The board randomly posts that it's not supported by EUFI during boot. Not sure if that's the board, or the GPU, but the GPU is much older than the board.

I'm ready for the 3080s or big navi. Whoever drops first!
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Cheaper for nVidia to make, maybe. They aren't going to reduce those sweet, sexy profits tho.
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Hope these have HDMI2.1 on them - I want to game at [email protected] on my OLED.
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it should since they have already added HDMI 2.1 VRR

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Old Oct 30, 2019, 09:25 PM   #9
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6 more months at best.
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6 more months at best.
9 more months for non 2080 ti owners

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I'm buying 7 at launch KAC, how many are you buying?
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You've said this before and.....
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so your buying the RTX 3070
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so your buying the RTX 3070
3060 Super Duper Ti






















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What may be exciting is 1440p traditional gaming may be enjoyed much more from 199 to 349 msrp price points. You can see why Nvidia is so pro-active about raytracing and need to convince consumers to continue paying for discrete gaming gpu's; to remain relevant.
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Yeh well they really need to offer more in an effort to keep dGPU relevant. The need is quickly diminishing.
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Means people are willing to accept lesser graphical details and quality for cheaper (aka Consoles aka KAC's fetish).

Playstation 5 and Xbox zero will make $1000 graphics card irrelevant for at least a year before PC starts pulling away as usual.
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Playstation 5 and Xbox zero will make $1000 graphics card irrelevant for at least a year before PC starts pulling away as usual.
Ah.... yeah, no.
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Discrete gaming gpu's get more powerful but so do integrated solutions. If integrated solutions can offer close to gtx 1050 performance next generation - translates into integrated offering a good enough experience for some at 1080p at a much lower cost. This will hurt discrete gpu gaming revenue and coupled by cheaper but more efficient and.powerful discrete gpu's that can handle 1440p traditional gaming; the hand writing is on the wall as discrete gaming revenue may start to be squeezed by integration.

So what do you do?

Innovate and change the gaming landscape and move gaming to raytracing; to continue to make discrete gaming gpu's relevant over integrated.
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I read this rumor a few weeks ago. It honestly didn't seem like it said a whole lot. I could have just made up this same info. Obviously the RTX hardware is going to need to be massively increased in the 3000 series to be worthwhile. I'd say the only current card that has even halfway decent RTX is the 2080 Ti, and even then it offers more like 70 series performance.

The question is do they dump so much into the RTX side that we get only a marginal increase in rasterization again? Frankly, I'm more interested in better rasterization at this point than better RTX. I think we're another whole GPU cycle out from RTX being of practical use.
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I agree with marginal price/performance increase but there was a very solid rasterization increase.
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I'm waiting for the 3080Ti, and while it may be overkill at 2560x1080 144FPS, that's what I'm hoping for .
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If the 3080 offers a 30% performance gain over the 2080TI and added VRAM then it will live up to the standards of all previously released generations of cards minus the RTX series of cards. Speaking of RTX, it might actually be playable at 4K 60FPS on these cards so that actually has the protentional to be an added bonus this time.

For me, the question is price. The 1080TI launched for $700 and with the tariffs I could understand charging $800 for now. The $1200 asking price of the 2080TI was basically Nvidia charging a premium for bringing the TI version of the chip out early. The problem was that the standard 2080 was no faster than the previously existing 1080TI and it had less VRAM. In other words, it was a scam and they ripped off a lot of people buy slapping a TI label on what should have been a standard 2080 card that didn't even have a VRAM upgrade and then charging a $400 premium for no reason. However many of us didn't buy into it and Nvidia's stocks plummeted all last year. Hopefully the rumors are true and they will actually offer the standard upgrades that even the 2080TI failed to offer in a non TI based card for sane prices. A 30% increase in performance plus a VRAM upgrade for the same price has been the standard since the start of the dedicated GPU industry. Effects like HDR and RTX are natural SOFTWARE progressions and do not warrant a special a$$hole tax on the hardware.

It's been a while since I upgraded so I plan to buy at least one card next year. If the prices are not a blatant rip off that insult my intelligence then I will buy 2X of them. If it's garbage then I will buy 1 of them and keep my 2X 1080TI's in my system for 3D rendering while gaming on a single card. Also, If they continue to piss in the wind then I will be waiting to jump ship the first chance any competitor gives me reason to do so. I would switch to Intel if they offered slightly slower performance with better mutli GPU scaling. I would switch to AMD's new Nvidia killer card that is rumored to come out later next year if they made a competitive alternative to IRAY. Or Nvidia could get it's sh!t together and I would be happy to keep buying from them.

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Yeah, the 2080 series was a letdown for me. I mean 30% better on the highest end for a whopping 40% or more on the price. It was a hard pass for me. I seriously hope they fix that with this next generation.

I could easily afford it, but I'm not going to spend that much on a GPU unless the damn 3080ti is 2x or more faster than my 1080ti.
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my gtx 1080 ti Strix was 779.00 and my RTX 2080 ti Strix was 1349.00 yea it was a kick in the nuts

but it gave me 4k/60 or higher FPS in almost all games without RTX and 40 to 60 with RTX

no it wasn't worth it but it was the only thing in town for 4k as the 1080 ti was running out of gas at 4k

as for the RTX 3080 ti Strix I expect it to be about 10% higher with tariffs and AMD not coming till the end of 2020 or 2021 with anything as fast as a 3080 let alone a 3080 ti
AMD may get to a 2080 super or maybe close to a 2080 ti about the same time as the 3080 ti hits

and like Crysis I think Cyberpunk 2077 at 4k will make the 3080 ti mandatory

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