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Old Jun 26, 2019, 10:52 PM   #541
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Old Jul 2, 2019, 02:19 PM   #542
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Refunds will be honored for Shenmue 3 for those who were expecting a Steam key when they backed the game on Kickstarter and the devs admit the game was supposed to come to Steam until Epic shoved their dick in things.

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Old Jul 3, 2019, 09:57 PM   #543
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Looks like Epic is footing the bill for the Shenmue refunds.

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They have to be hemmoraging money with this venture. I know Fortnite money is paying for it, but that can't be sustainable.
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Old Jul 4, 2019, 10:55 AM   #545
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They have to be hemmoraging money with this venture. I know Fortnite money is paying for it, but that can't be sustainable.
They're using Fortnite money to push the Epic Store aggressively, so that it *becomes* sustainable. The Metro blow-up was only a few months ago. I'm sure they can afford at least two years of spending to acquire market share. Once they've got a solid store that people don't hiss at, that's money coming in for years to come.
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Old Jul 4, 2019, 12:34 PM   #546
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They have to be hemmoraging money with this venture. I know Fortnite money is paying for it, but that can't be sustainable.
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Highly doubt the 330milliin that Tencent invested in 2012 is paying for any of this, I would be surprised if any of that money was left over after 7 years and not fully spent years ago.
Epic is paying with thier multi billion profits they make a year due to mostly Unreal engine and some from Fortnite.
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Mostly from fortnite. They wouldn’t be able to do what they’ve been doing without the massive influx of cash that came in from that atrocity of a game.

Thankfully it’s dying down. Good competition from games like Apex have bit into that.
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I can't imagine there ever being enough people choosing to buy games on Epic over Steam. Epic is gonna need exclusives for many many years.
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I can't imagine there ever being enough people choosing to buy games on Epic over Steam. Epic is gonna need exclusives for many many years.

Don’t worry they are working on the exclusivity and they are doing good.
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Mostly from fortnite. They wouldn’t be able to do what they’ve been doing without the massive influx of cash that came in from that atrocity of a game.

Thankfully it’s dying down. Good competition from games like Apex have bit into that.
Going by this, UE is their big money maker
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If they keep on having the success they been having, eventually they won't even need contracts for exclusive games, they'll most likely have a lot of dev/pubs going exclusive without contracts.
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Don’t worry they are working on the exclusivity and they are doing good.
I was kinda replying to Crawdaddy and twonha. I don't know anything for sure, but I don't think the store will ever be sustainable on its own. Like Ubisoft and EA, I imagine Epic will need a consistently successful franchise to keep the store going and I don't think Fortnite counts. (Do we know if they're working on that?) Paying for exclusives that are in many cases temporary doesn't seem sustainable, like twonha said...

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EGS has regional scaling that works a lot better in many parts of the world. I have quite a few friends in developing countries that purchased Metro instead of pirating it because instead of the hundreds of their dollars they have to pay for one game on Steam, it was about the equivalent of 20 bucks or so for them, which put it in their affordable range. I'm sure most of them will be returning customers on Epic's platform.

I'm glad someone is trying to shake up the 'effective monopoly' that Steam has had for a while now.
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EGS has regional scaling that works a lot better in many parts of the world. I have quite a few friends in developing countries that purchased Metro instead of pirating it because instead of the hundreds of their dollars they have to pay for one game on Steam, it was about the equivalent of 20 bucks or so for them, which put it in their affordable range. I'm sure most of them will be returning customers on Epic's platform.

I'm glad someone is trying to shake up the 'effective monopoly' that Steam has had for a while now.
Steam has regional pricing for many games. As far as steam is concerned it leaves it up to the publishers to set regional pricing. The new Metro game (with season's pass) was 12.49 during last year's steam sale (South Asia). The season's pass is available for 6.99 right now but no base game. EGS offers the same pass for 9.99

Sunset overdrive is 8.19 (granted not much of a discount, but there is one none the less). Ubisoft & SE games are cheaper as well. the MRSP on SE games is about 50-60% of base US price.
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Steam has regional pricing for many games.
Steam's regional pricing doesn't work in many countries of the world. EGS regional prices works in some of those countries. (there was a thread on resetera with more specifics but I can't find it now)

I'm glad you're having a great time with Steam, but your experience does not match millions of other gamers in developing countries who would gladly be customers instead of pirates.
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Mostly from fortnite. They wouldn’t be able to do what they’ve been doing without the massive influx of cash that came in from that atrocity of a game.

Thankfully it’s dying down. Good competition from games like Apex have bit into that.
Apex recent numbers just put it over 2.5 million and growing.

Fortnite recent numbers put it over 250 million with 10.8 concurrent as its highest server load. in June. and their numbers are still growing.

I dumped Apex and went all the way back to Borderlands due to the hacking issues EA still can't seem to control. Why deal with the frustration of hacked PVP when I can have actual fun in PVE coop.

That and I still pop on Overwatch from time to time to get my but kicked when I start to think I got skills.
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Was just reading on EA news that APEX has been going down the crapper as far as people playing is concerned.
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Really? Hmm. Haven’t really noticed and they just released the new season. I’m surprised to hear that. It’s one of the few games I enjoy playing on my PS4. Also don’t have to worry about hackers on console which is nice.

I still don’t understand how fortnite is so popular.. it’s just awful in so many aspects.
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Steam's regional pricing doesn't work in many countries of the world. EGS regional prices works in some of those countries. (there was a thread on resetera with more specifics but I can't find it now)

I'm glad you're having a great time with Steam, but your experience does not match millions of other gamers in developing countries who would gladly be customers instead of pirates.
Lots of games are not getting regional pricing in Steam for Latin America, it will be interesting to see if the EGS can fix that on the future, but I doubt it.
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A feature I recently noticed Steam has that id like to see other stores implement; the dates reviews were made and it’s graphed how many were positive, negative. You can select one month to see why there’s a huge influx of positive or negative reviews. Pretty sweet. Hopefully other stores follow that
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IIRC, Sweeny said that developers were better equipped to handle customers directly through their own websites and forums. I'm not sure I buy that, but if they at least had a link to the "official" game forum I would probably be okay. But to be honest, nothing beats the Steam overlay and discussion forums when I'm having trouble with a game or something. So convenient.
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IIRC, Sweeny said that developers were better equipped to handle customers directly through their own websites and forums. I'm not sure I buy that, but if they at least had a link to the "official" game forum I would probably be okay. But to be honest, nothing beats the Steam overlay and discussion forums when I'm having trouble with a game or something. So convenient.
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