Radeon HD 7970 GHz edition coming? - Page 2

demo · Jun 10, 2012, 10:05 AM

Heres the differences of 4870 > 4890, seems everything from the chip, to card, to heatsink were changed.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh....php?p=1299332

BababooeyHTJ · Jun 10, 2012, 10:28 AM

From the sounds of it the clock boost with T2 is going to be a bit larger than 4870 to 4890 and unlike 4890 won't come at the expense of more power consumption. If they can do that without extra transistors, power, heat, and noise then that sounds like a good thing to me.

demo · Jun 10, 2012, 10:38 AM

Yeh sounds great to me too, but I think much like the 2700k which replaced the 2600k, only a small premium should be added on top. 2700k launch price was only $14 more than 2600k, and I would expect a similar % for this new card too.

Looking foward to how well they oc, I'm guessing a good 50-100mhz average higher than current 7970.

NIGELG · Jun 10, 2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by demo

Yeh, some rampage.

LOL....but how is it possible to have buyer's remorse for a card you didn't buy?What's the deal with that?

I hope to upgrade my system in a few months.The only candidates are 7970/50 OR 470/480.A processor/MB upgrade/SSD is on the cards but I will swap out the aging 5850 first.

Sounds like there are some good deals at around 400 bucks on amazon.com.

demo · Jun 10, 2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by NIGELG

LOL....but how is it possible to have buyer's remorse for a card you didn't buy?What's the deal with that?

You need to let go... I already said it was troll/joke vote because there were zero votes at the time for that option, in that stupid poll. I also said repeatedly I dont know how anyone could have buyers remorse after buying 7970, which are great cards.

I still dont see how that equates to a "rampage".. but thanks for playing

NIGELG · Jun 10, 2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by demo

You need to let go... I already said it was troll/joke vote because there were zero votes at the time for that option, in that stupid poll. I also said repeatedly I dont know how anyone could have buyers remorse after buying 7970, which are great cards.

I still dont see how that equates to a "rampage".. but thanks for playing

Everyone here knows your 'rampage'...''better drivers, IQ,moar features,AO,pHYSx'' blah blah blah

.

Polls are to be taken seriously in my view.

demo · Jun 10, 2012, 11:33 AM

Way to troll this thread. Nice rampage.

caveman-jim · Jun 10, 2012, 12:33 PM

@demo - it was a joke, unwad panties, relax, crack open a cold one

and you're right about the 4870 to 4890, that was a respin - plenty of changes. the info so far about Tahiti is it's a binning change.

Nunz · Jun 10, 2012, 12:50 PM

So all this means is that AMD is going to take more of the higher binned chips.
What happens to the lower bins that don't reach the Ghz edition?

caveman-jim · Jun 10, 2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nunz

So all this means is that AMD is going to take more of the higher binned chips.
What happens to the lower bins that don't reach the Ghz edition?

7950's, or Tahiti LE (which is likely to be a FirePro replacement for the V5900 and 7900 based on Cayman LE).

Nunz · Jun 10, 2012, 01:08 PM

Should we expect 7950s running even lower voltage with higher clocks?

caveman-jim · Jun 10, 2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nunz

Should we expect 7950s running even lower voltage with higher clocks?

Most likely no, same voltage but higher clocks but I'm sure there will be some that run lower voltage, higher clocks.

bill dennison · Jun 10, 2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ

From the sounds of it the clock boost with T2 is going to be a bit larger than 4870 to 4890 and unlike 4890 won't come at the expense of more power consumption. If they can do that without extra transistors, power, heat, and noise then that sounds like a good thing to me.

yea the 4890's ran a little warm if they can do this T2 for the same heat output it will be good

and T2 you know someone is going to put Arnold on the box

KAC · Jun 11, 2012, 01:36 AM

Useless edition imo. Unless there is a voltage decrease and significant clocking gains (e.g., above 1200 MHz), will not upgrade.

Nunz · Jun 11, 2012, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KickAssCop

Useless edition imo. Unless there is a voltage decrease and significant clocking gains (e.g., above 1200 MHz), will not upgrade.

It's not for people to upgrade their current cards.

The respin is for people who don't own HD7970s to have more incentive to buy one..

KAC · Jun 11, 2012, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nunz

It's not for people to upgrade their current cards.

The respin is for people who don't own HD7970s to have more incentive to buy one..

Why not release an upgrade. They already made plenty money on their 7970s.

acroig · Jun 11, 2012, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KickAssCop

Why not release an upgrade. They already made plenty money on their 7970s.

The upgrade will be the dual GPU card to compete against the 690.

Nunz · Jun 11, 2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KickAssCop

Why not release an upgrade. They already made plenty money on their 7970s.

Because they don't have Tahiti perfected enough to spin a major upgrade..

BababooeyHTJ · Jun 11, 2012, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acroig

The upgrade will be the dual GPU card to compete against the 690.

I know that its not going to happen but I'm really hoping that they release 7990 at $800.

acroig · Jun 11, 2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ

I know that its not going to happen but I'm really hoping that they release 7990 at $800.

$875-900 maybe.

bill dennison · Jun 11, 2012, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by acroig

$875-900 maybe.

well when the 7970's came out they said 849
these would be nice for the z77 boards that only can do one slot at pcie 3.0 16x

but no more cards this time for me three is enough for one generation

demo · Jun 12, 2012, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dennison

these would be nice for the z77 boards that only can do one slot at pcie 3.0 16x

Doubt theres any benefit of 1 x 7990 in a 16x pcie 3.0 slot, over 2 x 7970 in 8x pcie 3.0 slots.

bill dennison · Jun 12, 2012, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demo

Doubt theres any benefit of 1 x 7990 in a 16x pcie 3.0 slot, over 2 x 7970 in 8x pcie 3.0 slots.

maybe not, but would like to see it tested
and it will depend on what bridge chip they use

demo · Jun 12, 2012, 02:31 AM

Bridge chip on the 7990? I assume its the same PLX chip as used on z77 boards and GTX690, because I dont know of any others that support pcie 3.0.

caveman-jim · Jun 13, 2012, 05:35 PM

The PLX chip on the 6990 had 48 lanes multiplexed between the two gpu's and the peg slot. so each gpu could have 16 lanes to talk to the rest of the system or 32 to talk to each other.

bill dennison · Jun 14, 2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by caveman-jim

The PLX chip on the 6990 had 48 lanes multiplexed between the two gpu's and the peg slot. so each gpu could have 16 lanes to talk to the rest of the system or 32 to talk to each other.

hmm then the 7990 nay use this one
http://www.techpowerup.com/167683/Sh...Schedules.html

maybe why the 7990 is a little late

caveman-jim · Jun 14, 2012, 04:37 PM

I don't think it's likely that AMD would release a dual GPU card that was a near miss to the target - highest performance graphics card. with the 7970 v1 and 680 so close it's only going to take a little bump in speed to get it over the hump, which if you then stuck on a stick you can beat the 690.

demo · Jun 14, 2012, 05:05 PM

Yeh imo 7990 should slightly outperform GTX690.

bill dennison · Jun 15, 2012, 03:36 AM

XT2

1100 clock at 1.020V

http://www.techpowerup.com/167711/AM...-Detailed.html

caveman-jim · Jun 15, 2012, 01:35 PM

Interesting

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demo space cadet Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 26,003	Heres the differences of 4870 > 4890, seems everything from the chip, to card, to heatsink were changed. http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh....php?p=1299332 __________________ ____________________

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Jun 10, 2012, 10:38 AM	#33
demo space cadet Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 26,003	Yeh sounds great to me too, but I think much like the 2700k which replaced the 2600k, only a small premium should be added on top. 2700k launch price was only $14 more than 2600k, and I would expect a similar % for this new card too. Looking foward to how well they oc, I'm guessing a good 50-100mhz average higher than current 7970. __________________ ____________________

demo's System Specs
Motherboard	Z370 Maximus X Hero
CPU	i7-8700K 5GHz
Graphics	GTX 1080Ti FE 2000/11400MHz
Memory	32GB Dominator Torque 3600MHz CL14 1T
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Jun 10, 2012, 10:28 AM	#32
BababooeyHTJ Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 12,067	From the sounds of it the clock boost with T2 is going to be a bit larger than 4870 to 4890 and unlike 4890 won't come at the expense of more power consumption. If they can do that without extra transistors, power, heat, and noise then that sounds like a good thing to me.

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Jun 10, 2012, 11:33 AM	#37
demo space cadet Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 26,003	Way to troll this thread. Nice rampage. __________________ ____________________

Jun 10, 2012, 12:33 PM	#38
caveman-jim Deposed King of Rage3D Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 48,926	@demo - it was a joke, unwad panties, relax, crack open a cold one and you're right about the 4870 to 4890, that was a respin - plenty of changes. the info so far about Tahiti is it's a binning change.

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Jun 11, 2012, 01:36 AM	#44
KAC Gays be gays be gays be g Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lahore Posts: 54,596	Useless edition imo. Unless there is a voltage decrease and significant clocking gains (e.g., above 1200 MHz), will not upgrade.

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Jun 12, 2012, 02:31 AM	#54
demo space cadet Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 26,003	Bridge chip on the 7990? I assume its the same PLX chip as used on z77 boards and GTX690, because I dont know of any others that support pcie 3.0. __________________ ____________________

Jun 13, 2012, 05:35 PM	#55
caveman-jim Deposed King of Rage3D Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 48,926	The PLX chip on the 6990 had 48 lanes multiplexed between the two gpu's and the peg slot. so each gpu could have 16 lanes to talk to the rest of the system or 32 to talk to each other.

Jun 14, 2012, 04:37 PM	#57
caveman-jim Deposed King of Rage3D Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 48,926	I don't think it's likely that AMD would release a dual GPU card that was a near miss to the target - highest performance graphics card. with the 7970 v1 and 680 so close it's only going to take a little bump in speed to get it over the hump, which if you then stuck on a stick you can beat the 690.

Jun 14, 2012, 05:05 PM	#58
demo space cadet Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 26,003	Yeh imo 7990 should slightly outperform GTX690. __________________ ____________________

Jun 15, 2012, 03:36 AM	#59
bill dennison Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: phoenix Posts: 17,862	XT2 1100 clock at 1.020V http://www.techpowerup.com/167711/AM...-Detailed.html

Jun 15, 2012, 01:35 PM	#60
caveman-jim Deposed King of Rage3D Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 48,926	Interesting

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