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Old Feb 14, 2019, 05:27 AM   #151
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Before Nvidia's recent change, I would have said that Freesync was a reason to get Vega VII over 2080. But obviously now that's changed. I guess Nvidia finally realized they were just giving a gift to AMD by refusing to support Freesync. Gsync cost too much so the two alternatives weren't really on level ground.

Well Gsync had several advantages over Freesync1, but Freesync2 is more in line with Gsync so sure they had no choice really.
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 10:44 AM   #152
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Has the R7 UEFI firmware been made available yet? My card should be arriving today!
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 10:49 AM   #153
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Has the R7 UEFI firmware been made available yet? My card should be arriving today!
Yeah Asrock released a bios update that has UEFI support. Apparently since all Radeon VII are the same you can just flash the asrock bios on any card.

https://www.techpowerup.com/252493/a...-click-updater
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 11:41 AM   #154
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[I posted this in the driver forum also]
https://www.amd.com/en/support/radeonvii-vbios-eula

Found this via a support thread here:
https://community.amd.com/thread/236770

My card arrives later today, so I'll comment on how this goes then.
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 04:09 PM   #155
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Well Gsync had several advantages over Freesync1, but Freesync2 is more in line with Gsync so sure they had no choice really.
It was inevitable since HDMI 2.1 natively supports variable refresh, but I figured NV would drag their heels until then vs. supporting current Freesync panels. They probably figured the Turing tax + Gsync tax was just too much for mainstream gamers and would cost them market share.
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 04:15 PM   #156
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Not a big deal to some but some might be interested to know that direct from AMD cards only have a 1yr warranty.


THIS LIMITED WARRANTY SHALL NOT APPLY TO YOUR PRODUCT IF AMD DETERMINES IN ITS SOLE DISCRETION THAT THE ALLEGED FAILURE OF THE PRODUCT TO MATERIALLY CONFORM TO THE SPECIFICATIONS DOES NOT EXIST OR WAS CAUSED BY, RELATED TO OR AROSE OUT OF MISUSE, NEGLECT, IMPROPER USE, INSTALLATION OR TESTING, UNAUTHORIZED ATTEMPTS TO OPEN, ALTER, REPAIR OR MODIFY THE PRODUCT OR SOFTWARE, UNAUTHORIZED ATTEMPTS TO REMOVE OR ALTER ORIGINAL IDENTIFICATION MARKINGS, OPERATION OUTSIDE OF THE SPECIFICATIONS (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, WHERE CLOCK FREQUENCIES OR VOLTAGES HAVE BEEN ALTERED – EVEN WITH USE OF AMD SOFTWARE), COMBINATIONS WITH INCOMPATIBLE THIRD PARTY PRODUCTS, THIRD PARTY VIRUS, INFECTION, WORM OR SIMILAR MALICIOUS CODE OR ANY OTHER CAUSE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE INTENDED USE OF THE PRODUCT, OR BY ACCIDENT, FIRE, LIGHTNING, FLOOD, OTHER HAZARDS, OR ACTS OF GOD. THIS LIMITED WARRANTY WILL NOT APPLY TO PRODUCTS USED FOR NUCLEAR RELATED, WEAPONS RELATED, MEDICAL OR LIFE SAVING PURPOSES, OR ANY OTHER SITUATION WHERE THE FAILURE OF SUCH PRODUCTS MIGHT BE REASONABLY EXPECTED TO CAUSE INJURY TO PERSON OR PROPERTY.


So even apparently using wattman can get u voided lol. that's funny stuff. Never seen a warranty terms for gpu this gross.
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 04:24 PM   #157
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Well undervolting will actually bring you good yields with less heat and power.
So it should be fine
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 06:00 PM   #158
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Not a big deal to some but some might be interested to know that direct from AMD cards only have a 1yr warranty.


THIS LIMITED WARRANTY SHALL NOT APPLY TO YOUR PRODUCT IF AMD DETERMINES IN ITS SOLE DISCRETION THAT THE ALLEGED FAILURE OF THE PRODUCT TO MATERIALLY CONFORM TO THE SPECIFICATIONS DOES NOT EXIST OR WAS CAUSED BY, RELATED TO OR AROSE OUT OF MISUSE, NEGLECT, IMPROPER USE, INSTALLATION OR TESTING, UNAUTHORIZED ATTEMPTS TO OPEN, ALTER, REPAIR OR MODIFY THE PRODUCT OR SOFTWARE, UNAUTHORIZED ATTEMPTS TO REMOVE OR ALTER ORIGINAL IDENTIFICATION MARKINGS, OPERATION OUTSIDE OF THE SPECIFICATIONS (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, WHERE CLOCK FREQUENCIES OR VOLTAGES HAVE BEEN ALTERED – EVEN WITH USE OF AMD SOFTWARE), COMBINATIONS WITH INCOMPATIBLE THIRD PARTY PRODUCTS, THIRD PARTY VIRUS, INFECTION, WORM OR SIMILAR MALICIOUS CODE OR ANY OTHER CAUSE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE INTENDED USE OF THE PRODUCT, OR BY ACCIDENT, FIRE, LIGHTNING, FLOOD, OTHER HAZARDS, OR ACTS OF GOD. THIS LIMITED WARRANTY WILL NOT APPLY TO PRODUCTS USED FOR NUCLEAR RELATED, WEAPONS RELATED, MEDICAL OR LIFE SAVING PURPOSES, OR ANY OTHER SITUATION WHERE THE FAILURE OF SUCH PRODUCTS MIGHT BE REASONABLY EXPECTED TO CAUSE INJURY TO PERSON OR PROPERTY.


So even apparently using wattman can get u voided lol. that's funny stuff. Never seen a warranty terms for gpu this gross.
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 06:30 PM   #159
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Not a big deal to some but some might be interested to know that direct from AMD cards only have a 1yr warranty.


THIS LIMITED WARRANTY SHALL NOT APPLY TO YOUR PRODUCT IF AMD DETERMINES IN ITS SOLE DISCRETION THAT THE ALLEGED FAILURE OF THE PRODUCT TO MATERIALLY CONFORM TO THE SPECIFICATIONS DOES NOT EXIST OR WAS CAUSED BY, RELATED TO OR AROSE OUT OF MISUSE, NEGLECT, IMPROPER USE, INSTALLATION OR TESTING, UNAUTHORIZED ATTEMPTS TO OPEN, ALTER, REPAIR OR MODIFY THE PRODUCT OR SOFTWARE, UNAUTHORIZED ATTEMPTS TO REMOVE OR ALTER ORIGINAL IDENTIFICATION MARKINGS, OPERATION OUTSIDE OF THE SPECIFICATIONS (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, WHERE CLOCK FREQUENCIES OR VOLTAGES HAVE BEEN ALTERED – EVEN WITH USE OF AMD SOFTWARE), COMBINATIONS WITH INCOMPATIBLE THIRD PARTY PRODUCTS, THIRD PARTY VIRUS, INFECTION, WORM OR SIMILAR MALICIOUS CODE OR ANY OTHER CAUSE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE INTENDED USE OF THE PRODUCT, OR BY ACCIDENT, FIRE, LIGHTNING, FLOOD, OTHER HAZARDS, OR ACTS OF GOD. THIS LIMITED WARRANTY WILL NOT APPLY TO PRODUCTS USED FOR NUCLEAR RELATED, WEAPONS RELATED, MEDICAL OR LIFE SAVING PURPOSES, OR ANY OTHER SITUATION WHERE THE FAILURE OF SUCH PRODUCTS MIGHT BE REASONABLY EXPECTED TO CAUSE INJURY TO PERSON OR PROPERTY.


So even apparently using wattman can get u voided lol. that's funny stuff. Never seen a warranty terms for gpu this gross.
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 06:43 PM   #160
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[I posted this in the driver forum also]
https://www.amd.com/en/support/radeonvii-vbios-eula
My card arrives later today, so I'll comment on how this goes then.
My card (AMD branded) already is v105, you can see version# under system specs in the driver, I ran the bios update anyway and it seemed to exit without flashing again.

The card's running fine with 19.2.2, I'll try benchmarks & getting an idea of noise level later!
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Old Feb 15, 2019, 04:40 PM   #161
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Default Sapphiretechs list UEFI support for their cards

Strange Sapphiretech list UEFI support under specifications for their card http://www.sapphiretech.com/productd...1E725&lang=eng
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Strange Sapphiretech list UEFI support under specifications for their card http://www.sapphiretech.com/productd...1E725&lang=eng
It's supposed to have it. Basically AMD rushed the launch so badly that they let cards slip out with preproduction BIOSes.
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