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Old Jan 11, 2004, 09:45 PM   #1
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Lightbulb New monitor? Recomendations...

Hi, here's some background info:

My old Dell 17" CRT Trinitron monitor took a dump on me a couple of months ago (lasted 5 years, no complaints there). I've been using a spare 15" CRT since then & it is finally starting to drive me nuts. However, I'm really uncertain about which monitor I should choose to purchase. There are soooo many nice choices out there, it's overwhelming - I'll admit, I never did keep up with the monitor technology. I'd like to go with a flat-screen /LCD but I do a fair amount of gaming, so everyone tells me to stick with another CRT...what do you guys say?

I was hoping for a 17" or 19" spending around $200 or less, if possible because of expenses. Can I score a good 19" CRT for under $200 or is that too optimistic? What are some of the more reputable brands in this price range? Should I trust a used monitor from half.com ?
*sigh* See what I mean, I just don't know what to do here...

Any advice about which brands to absolutely stay away from? Thanks in advance everyone
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Old Jan 11, 2004, 11:29 PM   #2
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Would not go used.

That said, a few folks seem to really like the 19" Viewsonic A90F+ CRT, at around $200.

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/crt_a90fplus.htm

Others really like the 19" Samsung SyncMaster 955DF CRT, also at around $200.

http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/na...d_id=AN19JSBLQ

Good stuff...
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Old Jan 12, 2004, 12:46 AM   #3
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I can vouch for the A90f+ as a good monitor. It's pretty
bright for a CRT, and about $300 less. I bought it to hold
me over until the right LCD comes along.

Personally, I would wait to get an LCD for at least another
year or two. They're just now starting to get better for
gaming.
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Old Jan 12, 2004, 03:03 AM   #4
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Hey, thanks a lot for the input fellas - appreciate it. I was a somewhat skeptical of buying a used one as well, just wanted to have someone knock some sense into me! It's funny, because I had someone else recommend a SyncMaster to me right after my old CRT went out! Thanks - I'll look into both of those models.
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Old Jan 12, 2004, 08:34 AM   #5
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Hey, thanks a lot for the input fellas - appreciate it. I was a somewhat skeptical of buying a used one as well, just wanted to have someone knock some sense into me! It's funny, because I had someone else recommend a SyncMaster to me right after my old CRT went out! Thanks - I'll look into both of those models.
Hope you find a good one that keeps on working well for ya!

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Old Jan 12, 2004, 09:36 AM   #6
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I have samsung 957MB and very happy with it (should be around 150$)
and i heard also that the P95F+ is very good
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Old Jan 12, 2004, 11:52 AM   #7
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I have a NEC 1701 ( US name could be different) and it's a REAL 16ms monitor.
I would never go back to CRT's now. The difference is huge.

If you buy a CRT you won't replace for at least 3 years. Can you really stand 3 years on a CRT ?
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Old Jan 12, 2004, 06:06 PM   #8
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get the samsung, the 955df or 756
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Old Jan 13, 2004, 07:43 PM   #9
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Ok, well I'm typing this on my new monitor Couldn't be happier. I went into my local Best Buy and snagged the Samsung SyncMaster 955DF for $199...thanks again for your help!
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Ok, well I'm typing this on my new monitor Couldn't be happier. I went into my local Best Buy and snagged the Samsung SyncMaster 955DF for $199...thanks again for your help!
You bet! Congrats, and enjoy!
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Old Jan 14, 2004, 03:07 AM   #11
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Nice. Thats exactly what i'm running. I baught this a year and a half ago because I got great rebate deal off of staples online. It turns out since i've been reading this board that this monitor seems to be one of the more popular crt's for what you pay.
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I have a NEC 1701 ( US name could be different) and it's a REAL 16ms monitor.
I would never go back to CRT's now. The difference is huge.

If you buy a CRT you won't replace for at least 3 years. Can you really stand 3 years on a CRT ?
Have you ever had or even seen a good CRT? i say they are still better.. and a friend of mine with a good 17" LCD thinks my monitor is just as good quality and better because of the higher resolution and more features, and mine wasn't even that expensive... not worth getting a 17" again but, 19"ers only cost a little more.
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LCD are ok, but only for Office use, 16ms seconds Displays like the Hitachi and Acer are a huge step forward in LCD technology but some problems still need to be sorted out like :

- the capacity to scale to a lower resolution with decent quality....Interpolation on modern LCD is still pants. The native resolution of a 17" LCD is 1280x1024, my 9600XT may be able to handle current games at that resolution with a decent framerate, but what about future games?, one compromise would be to lower the resolution to 1024x768 and that on a 17" LCD looks like crap.
The other way would be to spend £300 on a top of the range graphic card once a year...well, no way.

- Price: still way too high, price of a 16ms is still around £330, an Iiyama 17" CRT withouth ghosting and shitty interpolation is less than half the price of an LCD.

LCD? Still expensive toys if u ask me.
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Have you actually used an LCD at resolutions other than native?
I mean actually "used" and I'm not talking "on the desktop" but specifically games?
The reason I ask is that the claim that "displays other than native look crap and "pants" sounds like you either saw an LCD 18+ months ago or haven't actually used one and are using a review which is very much "wrong".

I own an NEC 1760NX LCD panel.
The native resolution is 1280x1024 and this is what I use for "Windows".
The image is perfect, it is sharp from corner to corner, the colours are bright and vibrant etc.
I use a Crucial 9800Pro card so the majority of games I play at 1280x1024 without much hassle.
However what about those slightly older games or those "pigs" that run slow at higher resolutions even though you've got good hardware?
1024x768 looks every bit as good as 1280x1024.
The game still looks excellent, still looks great - there is next to no degrade in image quality due to this resolution drop.
Soon after getting my panel I tried games in various resolutions, even 800x600 was very acceptable and playable.
Only when I tried Diablo II (hate the game, but a good way of testing 640x480) did image quality seriously drop - however even that was still playable.

Interpolation on modern panels is excellent and you'd be hard pushed to notice any drop in image quality gaming as 1024x768 on a 17" panel.
Run Windows at anything other than native and it looks dire, agreed.
However that is not what we were talking about.
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Ok gang, here's a follow-up to my thread:


Well, I've been using my new Samsung for about a week and a half so far and things are great. I don't have any complaints to speak of, so if anyone else is sitting on the fence about trying to decide on a good "value" 19" CRT monitor, I would not hesitate to go with the SynMaster 955DF. Allright, I'll stop now - I think I made my point. LOL
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Ok gang, here's a follow-up to my thread:


Well, I've been using my new Samsung for about a week and a half so far and things are great. I don't have any complaints to speak of, so if anyone else is sitting on the fence about trying to decide on a good "value" 19" CRT monitor, I would not hesitate to go with the SynMaster 955DF. Allright, I'll stop now - I think I made my point. LOL
Congrats man! I hope you get lots of good gaming use out of that new monitor!

Enjoy it!
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955DF + Good Price = w1n.

Exactly what I would have reccomended.

Personally... I'm eyeing the new black/silver P90F.... ooooh preeettty. 1920x1440 on a 19".... 0.24 dot pitch.

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