Problem in GTA3 (fog)!!!! [temp fix inside]

jtedaldi · Jun 13, 2002, 02:35 PM

When I am playing gta3 appear a fog very high and I cant see anything with it. I already tried to change my drivers but the problem dont go away!!
How can I fix this??

***Ichneumon*** · Jun 13, 2002, 03:56 PM

I'll just rip this from one of the 3 or 4 posts i've already done on it in the driver forum.

To make the Catalyst drivers work with GTA3 you need to use Rage3D Tweak to disable the Table fog and Z fog registry entries (and make sure W-Buffer is disabled). This will make GTA3 playable with the new drivers.

spread the word.

To manually edit the registry and accomplish the fix, you need to find and edit the following registry entries in the ATI registry keys.

ExportWBuffer = 0 (can make this change in ATI control panel)
ZFogEnable = 0
WFogEnable = 0
TableFogEnable = 0

If you can't find them in your registry (particularly relating to Windows XP), then use Rage3D Tweak to make the changes.

Yoey · Jun 13, 2002, 07:00 PM

that doesn't work... at least for me... still have the same... super-fog-can't-see-anything problem

EDIT: oops didn't restart

Rik · Jun 14, 2002, 06:59 AM

This is also necessary for MORROWIND (just the disable Table Fog bit). It looks like Table Fog must be enabled by default in the 7.72/7.73 drivers.

Like Yoey says you have to reboot for it to take effect (in XP at least).

Rafael · Jun 14, 2002, 07:24 AM

I must have done something wrong. Didn't work after reboot aswell..

cpharrboy · Jun 14, 2002, 05:42 PM

I wouldnt say you have done something wrong because I am also still getting the horrible fog after the tweaks. If you guys could please double check your settings and get back to us it would be appreciated. Are you guys waiting for it to become late night? Thats when the fog gets at its worst.

ClarityX · Jun 14, 2002, 06:18 PM

I installed the new Catalyst drivers and have the fog problem as well. All the 'solutions' here tell me to install the new R3D to fix. The new R3D just crashes my computer after install until I boot in safe mode and uninstall it. So, how do I apply these tweaks WITHOUT using R3D?? Using 8500DV, Win2K. Thanks.

Salvee · Jun 14, 2002, 08:30 PM

Hi! I'm using Catalyst drivers and the tweaks did not work for me. But I found an alternative setting that some of you can try: W-Buffer enabled, Table Fog enabled, W & Z Fog disabled. I had a savegame that always started with this fog, but with these settings it's finally working, at least on my rig. Sorry to the last poster, I also used the Rage-Tweaker.

***Ichneumon*** · Jun 14, 2002, 09:11 PM

If you have W-Buffer on, your performance will be much worse in GTA3.

Salvee · Jun 14, 2002, 09:36 PM

You are right, Ichneumon (of course you are !

). I was just happy it worked, so I left W-Buffer enabled. Right now, only TableFog is enabled, and the three other settings mentioned before are disabled, and it still works with better performance.

Nagorak · Jun 14, 2002, 09:47 PM

Most of the slow down problems people are having is likely due to sound. Make sure that you have Miles 2D audio selected and have the dynamic sound mapping turned off.

W-buffer on/off made no difference for me on my system. I also had no fog problems using the W98 Omega drivers as well as older driver sets. Maybe the best fix is just to downgrade to an older driver when you play this game.

Buen Pistolas · Jun 15, 2002, 02:15 AM

well, i found that after turning on the Z fog.. it isn't super-foggy during the weather condition.... but the super fog effect still shows up when it's early in the morning, night-fog, etc. well, we just gotta let ATI know about this one :\ it never happened to me in the 6071's...

area2000 · Jun 15, 2002, 05:48 PM

Go and hammer them with E-mails! they should know what buggy game the brought out !
bring the game back...it isn`t playable on 90% of the machines out there with Radeon Graca.
the game is cool but the creators of this game suck!
It is 110% NVidia optimized..and they got problems too..hang the DJ..hang èm High!

Roundhouse · Jun 16, 2002, 12:07 AM

just to add, running the game in 16 makes it look like ****

Buen Pistolas · Jun 16, 2002, 02:53 AM

hehe, no ****

BiOsPhErE · Jun 17, 2002, 02:37 AM

Do u ppl experience any hang while playing the game?

BlaCkPlaGUE · Jun 17, 2002, 06:20 AM

I do. I notice it build up. I'll be playing for 30minutes and then it'll just start chopping and hanging every few seconds. But at that time I'm already bored and shut it off. Those guys who made this game are geniouses, but they sure are ignorant when it comes to problems. Thats the problem with ports, unlike playstation where no patches are need/possible and there is only one hardware configuration. The PC version has to try and work with millions of configured systems, so far I appluad GTA3 for the compatibility, buy I hate them for thinking that a patch is out of the question and completley unneeded.

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jtedaldi Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 16	Problem in GTA3!!!! When I am playing gta3 appear a fog very high and I cant see anything with it. I already tried to change my drivers but the problem dont go away!! How can I fix this?? __________________ You'll take my life but I'll take yours too You'll fire your musket but I'll run you through So when you're waiting for the next attack You'd better stand there's no turning back...

Jun 13, 2002, 03:56 PM	#2
*Ichneumon* Lord of the Flies Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,695	I'll just rip this from one of the 3 or 4 posts i've already done on it in the driver forum. To make the Catalyst drivers work with GTA3 you need to use Rage3D Tweak to disable the Table fog and Z fog registry entries (and make sure W-Buffer is disabled). This will make GTA3 playable with the new drivers. spread the word. To manually edit the registry and accomplish the fix, you need to find and edit the following registry entries in the ATI registry keys. ExportWBuffer = 0 (can make this change in ATI control panel) ZFogEnable = 0 WFogEnable = 0 TableFogEnable = 0 If you can't find them in your registry (particularly relating to Windows XP), then use Rage3D Tweak to make the changes. __________________ Ichneumon http://www.rage3d.com "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. " - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

Jun 13, 2002, 07:00 PM	#3
Yoey Self ********* Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CANADA Posts: 941	that doesn't work... at least for me... still have the same... super-fog-can't-see-anything problem EDIT: oops didn't restart Last edited by Yoey : Jun 13, 2002 at 08:38 PM.

Jun 14, 2002, 05:42 PM	#6
cpharrboy Radeon HD 4870 Join Date: May 2001 Location: NC Posts: 487	re: I wouldnt say you have done something wrong because I am also still getting the horrible fog after the tweaks. If you guys could please double check your settings and get back to us it would be appreciated. Are you guys waiting for it to become late night? Thats when the fog gets at its worst. __________________ AMD Athlon64 x2 4200+ \| 2gb (2x1gb) OCZ Platinum REV2 DDR2-800 Dual Channel \| VisionTek X1950pro XGE 256mb GDDRIII AGP \| MSI K9MM-V \| Maxtor DiamondMax 21 320gb 7200 SATA

Jun 14, 2002, 09:11 PM	#9
*Ichneumon* Lord of the Flies Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,695	If you have W-Buffer on, your performance will be much worse in GTA3. __________________ Ichneumon http://www.rage3d.com "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. " - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

Jun 14, 2002, 06:59 AM	#4
Rik Radeon HD 4890 Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 904	This is also necessary for MORROWIND (just the disable Table Fog bit). It looks like Table Fog must be enabled by default in the 7.72/7.73 drivers. Like Yoey says you have to reboot for it to take effect (in XP at least).

Jun 14, 2002, 07:24 AM	#5
Rafael Radeon HD 4600 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: oslo, norway Posts: 91	I must have done something wrong. Didn't work after reboot aswell..

Jun 14, 2002, 06:18 PM	#7
ClarityX Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12	I installed the new Catalyst drivers and have the fog problem as well. All the 'solutions' here tell me to install the new R3D to fix. The new R3D just crashes my computer after install until I boot in safe mode and uninstall it. So, how do I apply these tweaks WITHOUT using R3D?? Using 8500DV, Win2K. Thanks.

Jun 14, 2002, 08:30 PM	#8
Salvee Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: @ home Posts: 157	Hi! I'm using Catalyst drivers and the tweaks did not work for me. But I found an alternative setting that some of you can try: W-Buffer enabled, Table Fog enabled, W & Z Fog disabled. I had a savegame that always started with this fog, but with these settings it's finally working, at least on my rig. Sorry to the last poster, I also used the Rage-Tweaker.

Jun 14, 2002, 09:36 PM	#10
Salvee Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: @ home Posts: 157	You are right, Ichneumon (of course you are ! ). I was just happy it worked, so I left W-Buffer enabled. Right now, only TableFog is enabled, and the three other settings mentioned before are disabled, and it still works with better performance.

Jun 14, 2002, 09:47 PM	#11
Nagorak Incarnation of the Nether Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Amanackia Posts: 6,520	Most of the slow down problems people are having is likely due to sound. Make sure that you have Miles 2D audio selected and have the dynamic sound mapping turned off. W-buffer on/off made no difference for me on my system. I also had no fog problems using the W98 Omega drivers as well as older driver sets. Maybe the best fix is just to downgrade to an older driver when you play this game.

Jun 15, 2002, 02:15 AM	#12
Buen Pistolas Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 20	well, i found that after turning on the Z fog.. it isn't super-foggy during the weather condition.... but the super fog effect still shows up when it's early in the morning, night-fog, etc. well, we just gotta let ATI know about this one :\ it never happened to me in the 6071's...

Jun 15, 2002, 05:48 PM	#13
area2000 Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 116	Go and hammer them with E-mails! they should know what buggy game the brought out ! bring the game back...it isn`t playable on 90% of the machines out there with Radeon Graca. the game is cool but the creators of this game suck! It is 110% NVidia optimized..and they got problems too..hang the DJ..hang èm High! __________________ A64 3500+ @ S939 \| 1 Gig Corsair 2,5 CL \| Radeon 9800 PRO@XT@default pro clock \| Audigy Soundcard \| Win2K, WinXP, WinME (different partitions) \|

Jun 16, 2002, 12:07 AM	#14
Roundhouse NOT BANNED Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,457	just to add, running the game in 16 makes it look like **** __________________ Cthulhu Underground Operating System - Windows XP corporate / Motherboad - Abit AT7 MAX2 / CPU - AMD XP 2400+ / RAM - 512 pc2700 / Hard Drive - Western Digital 60gig 7200 rpm ATA 100 / Video Card - ATI Radeon 8500 / Sound Card - SoundBlaster Audigy 2

Jun 16, 2002, 02:53 AM	#15
Buen Pistolas Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 20	hehe, no ****

Jun 17, 2002, 02:37 AM	#16
BiOsPhErE Newbie Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6	Do u ppl experience any hang while playing the game? __________________ P4 1.8A @ 2.26A 256MB PC2700 TwinMos ATI Radeon 8500 128MB DDR(3.6ns) Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sony 5.1 Dolby Pro Logic Surround System

Jun 17, 2002, 06:20 AM	#17
BlaCkPlaGUE Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calgary Alberta Canada Posts: 12	I do. I notice it build up. I'll be playing for 30minutes and then it'll just start chopping and hanging every few seconds. But at that time I'm already bored and shut it off. Those guys who made this game are geniouses, but they sure are ignorant when it comes to problems. Thats the problem with ports, unlike playstation where no patches are need/possible and there is only one hardware configuration. The PC version has to try and work with millions of configured systems, so far I appluad GTA3 for the compatibility, buy I hate them for thinking that a patch is out of the question and completley unneeded.

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