Wanna use VFW capture programs with WDM drivers? - it is not a problem!

LinuxHata · Jun 15, 2001, 01:04 AM

download this, http://shopgeo.virtualave.net/wrapper.zip
unzip it, right click on INF file, select install, and do a restart. after restart you'll have VFW capture driver installed in system. The problems with CUseeMee, Netshow, WindowsMediaEncoder, VirtualDub will be solved!

zcvcz@hotmail.com · Jun 15, 2001, 08:23 AM

Do you have another one?

vey · Jun 15, 2001, 08:30 AM

Didn't work for me.
I am pretty sure that Win2k is an either/or proposition and will not allow both drivers to be installed at the same time (unlike Win98SE).

LinuxHata · Jun 15, 2001, 10:49 AM

this is my site, i've checked, and link works fine, anyway if u want it, i can mail it to you, it's small, 32kb.

DigitalOv · Jun 15, 2001, 12:55 PM

Will.......
IT,,
WORK......
WITH......
WIN2K....??

LinuxHata · Jun 15, 2001, 02:15 PM

yes, I'm using it with win2k right now!

vey · Jun 15, 2001, 02:16 PM

How?

Okay, I got it to work.

icpms · Jun 15, 2001, 03:37 PM

Who developed this "fix"? Thanks...

LinuxHata · Jun 15, 2001, 03:56 PM

Actually, the source code of that converter is included in DirectX8 SDK, but is not full, so my russian friend finished it, and make available for everyone

RVL · Jun 15, 2001, 06:41 PM

The same. I've only added some registry keys for correct installing the wrapper. Ths wrapper (vfwwdm32.dll) almost always present in system but the necessary registry keys aren't. You will have full set of capture resolutions and property sheets except the dialog for choosing of decoder standard (NTSC/PAL/Secam). An appropriate standard can be selected with MMC in advance.

LinuxHata · Jun 16, 2001, 12:00 AM

Ïðèâåò ÊÌÄ

RVL · Jun 16, 2001, 01:45 AM

Ïðèâåò A-Gugu

elessar · Jun 16, 2001, 06:55 AM

If you want to get VfW support on Win2k, you can just get an old w9x driver for your graphic board (I have a Rage Fury Pro VIVO) that still supports video for windows. You install the normal WDM drivers for w2k, then you take the driver directory, and execute setup from the WdmINF directory. This will install a fully working VfW-WDM driver on your w2k system. I have this on my PC, so I'm not joking.

EleSSaR^

DigitalOv · Jun 16, 2001, 10:25 AM

Yeah..
It Works Perfectly for Me..

eVITAERC · Jun 17, 2001, 03:06 AM

Does this wrapper enable YUV2 capture?

RVL · Jun 17, 2001, 09:34 AM

No. UYVY only.

mentalv · Jun 17, 2001, 09:09 PM

right click install and then all the same errors on the same programs..

WMEncoder the device has encountered and error(error #)
Chillcam : the capture device cant capture BMP at resolution. Try another blah blah (same on all resolutions)

what could i try??

win2k SP2
AIW radeon using 3218 drivers
all AIW devices updated to lattest drivers... :/

i have longed for VFW compatibility FOR LONG and I NEEDED it before i bought the card and i dumb ass wise bought it thinking it would

i see quite a good "IT WORKS!!" here so i HAVE to be doing something wrong!! now what??

UPDATE: the .drv file IS NOT being installed in my system... when i reboot and do a search on the file it is not found anywhere(well only where i unziped the file) even though the 32.dll file is in the system32/ and system32/dll cache/ folder... is that the same places the .drv file should go?????? PLEASE SOMEONE!!!!

Revenant · Jun 17, 2001, 10:44 PM

Hardware: OEM Radeon 64MB VIVO
OS: Win2k Pro

I recently re-installed Win2k, installed the 3211 drivers, then upgraded to the 3218 drivers. I noticed VirtualDub no longer recognized any capture devices but it was working fine before the re-install (needless to say I was a bit upset about this). Here's the solution I found in a past thread in this forum (thanks to whoever figured this out).

"Update" the ATI WDM Rage Theater Video driver with an old version (try the driver on the CD that came with your card, that's what I used). After that "Update" (don't remember if I needed a reboot) just Update the Rage Theater driver back to the previous version of the drivers you have installed (3218 in my case). The VFW Wrapper (Microsoft WDM Image Capture) will remain installed.

Do a search for *.inf on the CD to find where the .inf files are (can't remember where they are located, but they are burried away somewhere).

How to install a specific version of the Rage Theater Video driver:
Open Device Manager, expand "Sound, video and Game controllers", double click on the "ATI WDM Rage Theater Video" device.
You will see the properties. Select the Driver tab and click "Update Driver".
When you see the option to "Search..." or "Display a List..." click on "Display a List..." and click Next.
Click the "Have Disk..." button and find the directory with the .inf files... should be pretty easy from there.

Follow those steps to install the old driver and to get back to the newer driver you are currently using.

All I can say is VirtualDub works perfectly for me once again.

Revenant

mentalv · Jun 18, 2001, 12:45 AM

but not the rest of the programs since virtua dub uses very simple registers from the mapper but the one posted suposedly has all the right register that go from mapper to original driver... thanks anyway... i just have no idea why MINE is the one that doesnt work with that new "fix"

etchris · Jun 18, 2001, 03:59 AM

Time for me to get this AIW card afterall

RVL · Jun 19, 2001, 01:50 AM

1. *.drv file is only needed for Win98/Me.
2. The wrapper supports a subset of VfW capabilities. This is why one program can work with it (like VirtualDub) and other can't (like Netmeeting or WMEncoder).

mentalv · Jun 19, 2001, 04:55 PM

he said:

"Wanna use VFW capture programs with WDM drivers? - it is not a problem!
download this, http://shopgeo.virtualave.net/wrapper.zip
unzip it, right click on INF file, select install, and do a restart. after restart you'll have VFW capture driver installed in system. The problems with CUseeMee, Netshow, WindowsMediaEncoder, VirtualDub will be solved!"

*cries!!!

NEVERLIFT · Jun 20, 2001, 02:26 AM

Just wanna say thanks, this worked great!

And on a side note ATI you can kiss my ass!

mentalv · Jun 20, 2001, 08:24 PM

but not me!!! *cries *cries!!

DigitalOv · Jun 20, 2001, 10:29 PM

You Must Be Doing Somthin Wrong..

from My Experience AIW RADEON has Always Worked w/ VFW in WIN98/ME .. I never had to Worry Bout it..

But in Win2k its Another Story

Try Extracting the Files from the ZIP to the /windows/system/ Directory..

then Clicking and installing the .INF

Digital Overload
(http://josh.swoca.net/digital/hardware.htm) <-SYSTEM SPECS

(and the Patch Did Work on My System)

mentalv · Jun 20, 2001, 11:52 PM

will try about installing them myself to the system32 folder... AND i just had this weird idea about the damn system recovery exchanging me the files back to the ones i had... will try and post if it worked...

RVL · Jun 21, 2001, 01:32 AM

It seems the Microsoft wrapper works for VIVO-cards in Win98/Me/2k but for AIW-cards it works only in 98/Me. I'm sorry but I have Radeon VIVO card and couldn't know the fact.

mentalv · Jun 21, 2001, 11:26 AM

i DO have an AIW... and even doing the "upgrade" of the files by myself didnt worked... oh well

DigitalOv · Jun 21, 2001, 12:12 PM

I Have an All In Wonder and the Patch Worked Fine...

Extract the 3 Files from the Zip to:
x:\Windows\System\

and then again to a Random Spot.

(ex X:\1\ ) <- Right Click on the Inf in this folder and select install....

after its done reboot and Voila...

VFV With no probs

I know it works..
i reloaded Win2k after i did it and it still worked

mentalv · Jun 22, 2001, 02:54 AM

i did that... i installed the patch and even installed the files myself in the system32 folder and still no go... there is no windows/system/ folder in win2k... only winnt/system and winnt/system32 even adding both files to both folders gives me the same results as no patch at all...

damn it... what could be wrong with my damn system...

win2k SP2
latest drivers
800@966 P3
256Ram
and AIW radeon

i have NO idea what could be wrong ... ARGH this is pissing me off... :/ bad thing is the Direct Video was supposed to be such a standard but the damn programers dont want to accept it. An it seems i wont be using the AIW part for capture till XP and programs for it(with DV) make an appereance :/

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LinuxHata Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Home Posts: 11	Wanna use VFW capture programs with WDM drivers? - it is not a problem! download this, http://shopgeo.virtualave.net/wrapper.zip unzip it, right click on INF file, select install, and do a restart. after restart you'll have VFW capture driver installed in system. The problems with CUseeMee, Netshow, WindowsMediaEncoder, VirtualDub will be solved! __________________ :D

Jun 15, 2001, 08:23 AM	#2
zcvcz@hotmail.com Radeon HD 4600 Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 97	LINK IS DEAD Do you have another one?

Jun 15, 2001, 10:49 AM	#4
LinuxHata Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Home Posts: 11	Link is not dead! this is my site, i've checked, and link works fine, anyway if u want it, i can mail it to you, it's small, 32kb. __________________ :D

Jun 15, 2001, 02:15 PM	#6
LinuxHata Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Home Posts: 11	yes, I'm using it with win2k right now! __________________ :D

Jun 15, 2001, 02:16 PM	#7
vey Radeon HD 4850 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 343	How? Okay, I got it to work. Last edited by vey : Jun 15, 2001 at 04:43 PM.

Jun 15, 2001, 08:30 AM	#3
vey Radeon HD 4850 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 343	Didn't work for me. I am pretty sure that Win2k is an either/or proposition and will not allow both drivers to be installed at the same time (unlike Win98SE).

Jun 15, 2001, 12:55 PM	#5
DigitalOv Radeon HD 4890 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Coast. (USA) Posts: 955	Will....... IT,, WORK...... WITH...... WIN2K....??

Jun 15, 2001, 03:37 PM	#8
icpms Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 21	Who Developed This "Fix"?? Who developed this "fix"? Thanks... __________________ Tomorrow is here...the future is now...

Jun 15, 2001, 03:56 PM	#9
LinuxHata Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Home Posts: 11	Actually, the source code of that converter is included in DirectX8 SDK, but is not full, so my russian friend finished it, and make available for everyone __________________ :D

Jun 15, 2001, 06:41 PM	#10
RVL Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Moscow Posts: 10	Pojo The same. I've only added some registry keys for correct installing the wrapper. Ths wrapper (vfwwdm32.dll) almost always present in system but the necessary registry keys aren't. You will have full set of capture resolutions and property sheets except the dialog for choosing of decoder standard (NTSC/PAL/Secam). An appropriate standard can be selected with MMC in advance. __________________ CPU: Duron 800 MB: Epox 8KTA3+ RAM: 256M Video: Radeon VIVO HDD: IBM DJNA,15G OS: Win2k

Jun 16, 2001, 12:00 AM	#11
LinuxHata Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Home Posts: 11	Ïðèâåò ÊÌÄ __________________ :D

Jun 16, 2001, 01:45 AM	#12
RVL Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Moscow Posts: 10	LinuxHata Ïðèâåò A-Gugu __________________ CPU: Duron 800 MB: Epox 8KTA3+ RAM: 256M Video: Radeon VIVO HDD: IBM DJNA,15G OS: Win2k

Jun 16, 2001, 06:55 AM	#13
elessar Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Italy Posts: 11	There's no need of such a thing If you want to get VfW support on Win2k, you can just get an old w9x driver for your graphic board (I have a Rage Fury Pro VIVO) that still supports video for windows. You install the normal WDM drivers for w2k, then you take the driver directory, and execute setup from the WdmINF directory. This will install a fully working VfW-WDM driver on your w2k system. I have this on my PC, so I'm not joking. EleSSaR^

Jun 16, 2001, 10:25 AM	#14
DigitalOv Radeon HD 4890 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Coast. (USA) Posts: 955	Yeah.. It Works Perfectly for Me..

Jun 17, 2001, 03:06 AM	#15
eVITAERC Radeon HD 4550 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Richmond, BC, Canada Posts: 38	Does this wrapper enable YUV2 capture? __________________ Windows 2000 SP1 Duron 700MHz @ 800MHz @ 1.75v MSI K7T Pro-2A OC BIOS 1.06B 256MB Micron PC133 SDRAM 3-3-3 AIW Radeon (driver 3116) SB Live! Value Win2k default driver IBM Deskstar 75GXP 45GB Pioneer 106s DVD-ROM TDK veloCD 8432 this sig was automatically shortened to meet the 10-lines max rule

Jun 17, 2001, 09:34 AM	#16
RVL Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Moscow Posts: 10	eVITAERC No. UYVY only. __________________ CPU: Duron 800 MB: Epox 8KTA3+ RAM: 256M Video: Radeon VIVO HDD: IBM DJNA,15G OS: Win2k

Jun 17, 2001, 09:09 PM	#17
mentalv Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 145	:( didnt worked for me... any ideas?? right click install and then all the same errors on the same programs.. WMEncoder the device has encountered and error(error #) Chillcam : the capture device cant capture BMP at resolution. Try another blah blah (same on all resolutions) what could i try?? win2k SP2 AIW radeon using 3218 drivers all AIW devices updated to lattest drivers... :/ i have longed for VFW compatibility FOR LONG and I NEEDED it before i bought the card and i dumb ass wise bought it thinking it would i see quite a good "IT WORKS!!" here so i HAVE to be doing something wrong!! now what?? UPDATE: the .drv file IS NOT being installed in my system... when i reboot and do a search on the file it is not found anywhere(well only where i unziped the file) even though the 32.dll file is in the system32/ and system32/dll cache/ folder... is that the same places the .drv file should go?????? PLEASE SOMEONE!!!! Last edited by mentalv : Jun 17, 2001 at 09:56 PM.

Jun 17, 2001, 10:44 PM	#18
Revenant Newbie Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 6	Alternate fix that worked for me Hardware: OEM Radeon 64MB VIVO OS: Win2k Pro I recently re-installed Win2k, installed the 3211 drivers, then upgraded to the 3218 drivers. I noticed VirtualDub no longer recognized any capture devices but it was working fine before the re-install (needless to say I was a bit upset about this). Here's the solution I found in a past thread in this forum (thanks to whoever figured this out). "Update" the ATI WDM Rage Theater Video driver with an old version (try the driver on the CD that came with your card, that's what I used). After that "Update" (don't remember if I needed a reboot) just Update the Rage Theater driver back to the previous version of the drivers you have installed (3218 in my case). The VFW Wrapper (Microsoft WDM Image Capture) will remain installed. Do a search for *.inf on the CD to find where the .inf files are (can't remember where they are located, but they are burried away somewhere). How to install a specific version of the Rage Theater Video driver: Open Device Manager, expand "Sound, video and Game controllers", double click on the "ATI WDM Rage Theater Video" device. You will see the properties. Select the Driver tab and click "Update Driver". When you see the option to "Search..." or "Display a List..." click on "Display a List..." and click Next. Click the "Have Disk..." button and find the directory with the .inf files... should be pretty easy from there. Follow those steps to install the old driver and to get back to the newer driver you are currently using. All I can say is VirtualDub works perfectly for me once again. Revenant

Jun 18, 2001, 12:45 AM	#19
mentalv Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 145	well yeah that works for virtua dub... but not the rest of the programs since virtua dub uses very simple registers from the mapper but the one posted suposedly has all the right register that go from mapper to original driver... thanks anyway... i just have no idea why MINE is the one that doesnt work with that new "fix"

Jun 18, 2001, 03:59 AM	#20
etchris Radeon HD 4550 Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 30	Muahahahaha!!! Time for me to get this AIW card afterall

Jun 19, 2001, 01:50 AM	#21
RVL Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Moscow Posts: 10	mentalv 1. *.drv file is only needed for Win98/Me. 2. The wrapper supports a subset of VfW capabilities. This is why one program can work with it (like VirtualDub) and other can't (like Netmeeting or WMEncoder). __________________ CPU: Duron 800 MB: Epox 8KTA3+ RAM: 256M Video: Radeon VIVO HDD: IBM DJNA,15G OS: Win2k

Jun 19, 2001, 04:55 PM	#22
mentalv Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 145	RVL! BUT BUT BUT.... he said: "Wanna use VFW capture programs with WDM drivers? - it is not a problem! download this, http://shopgeo.virtualave.net/wrapper.zip unzip it, right click on INF file, select install, and do a restart. after restart you'll have VFW capture driver installed in system. The problems with CUseeMee, Netshow, WindowsMediaEncoder, VirtualDub will be solved!" *cries!!!

Jun 20, 2001, 02:26 AM	#23
NEVERLIFT Shadowrunner Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: In the shadows of the Megacorporations Posts: 3,401	Just wanna say thanks, this worked great! And on a side note ATI you can kiss my ass! __________________ The World is changed, Some say Awakened. It's 13:53:33 . Do You Know Where Your Meat Body Is? Shadowrunner by trade...

Jun 20, 2001, 08:24 PM	#24
mentalv Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 145	ARGH!!!! why does it work for everyone!!! but not me!!! cries cries!!

Jun 20, 2001, 10:29 PM	#25
DigitalOv Radeon HD 4890 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Coast. (USA) Posts: 955	You Must Be Doing Somthin Wrong.. from My Experience AIW RADEON has Always Worked w/ VFW in WIN98/ME .. I never had to Worry Bout it.. But in Win2k its Another Story Try Extracting the Files from the ZIP to the /windows/system/ Directory.. then Clicking and installing the .INF Digital Overload (http://josh.swoca.net/digital/hardware.htm) <-SYSTEM SPECS (and the Patch Did Work on My System)

Jun 20, 2001, 11:52 PM	#26
mentalv Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 145	i have win2k... :( will try about installing them myself to the system32 folder... AND i just had this weird idea about the damn system recovery exchanging me the files back to the ones i had... will try and post if it worked...

Jun 21, 2001, 01:32 AM	#27
RVL Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Moscow Posts: 10	mentalv It seems the Microsoft wrapper works for VIVO-cards in Win98/Me/2k but for AIW-cards it works only in 98/Me. I'm sorry but I have Radeon VIVO card and couldn't know the fact. __________________ CPU: Duron 800 MB: Epox 8KTA3+ RAM: 256M Video: Radeon VIVO HDD: IBM DJNA,15G OS: Win2k

Jun 21, 2001, 11:26 AM	#28
mentalv Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 145	ohhhh i get it now... i DO have an AIW... and even doing the "upgrade" of the files by myself didnt worked... oh well

Jun 21, 2001, 12:12 PM	#29
DigitalOv Radeon HD 4890 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Coast. (USA) Posts: 955	i have an AIW I Have an All In Wonder and the Patch Worked Fine... Extract the 3 Files from the Zip to: x:\Windows\System\ and then again to a Random Spot. (ex X:\1\ ) <- Right Click on the Inf in this folder and select install.... after its done reboot and Voila... VFV With no probs I know it works.. i reloaded Win2k after i did it and it still worked

Jun 22, 2001, 02:54 AM	#30
mentalv Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 145	Digital Ov i did that... i installed the patch and even installed the files myself in the system32 folder and still no go... there is no windows/system/ folder in win2k... only winnt/system and winnt/system32 even adding both files to both folders gives me the same results as no patch at all... damn it... what could be wrong with my damn system... win2k SP2 latest drivers 800@966 P3 256Ram and AIW radeon i have NO idea what could be wrong ... ARGH this is pissing me off... :/ bad thing is the Direct Video was supposed to be such a standard but the damn programers dont want to accept it. An it seems i wont be using the AIW part for capture till XP and programs for it(with DV) make an appereance :/

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