i'm #2!!

dustinyo · May 25, 2001, 04:48 AM

that's right! 2nd most posts on this board! only behind RageLTman.

does that mean i can be a moderator now?

**G.I.BRO** · May 25, 2001, 06:34 AM

SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

ive dropped back to 19th....GRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I knew it, ive been slacking as of late. Sorry guys, its the damn girlfriend wanna be, shes taking up all of my time as of late. Dont worrry, a lil'bitch slap here and there will change all of that!!! Ummm first i'l wait after the weekend, taking her out of town, shes been going through some major fam probs...So i better work this shiat propa before i get nothing!

xCLAVEx · May 25, 2001, 07:02 AM

HeHeHE, yep I'm in your same boat GI. My girlfriend also demands my time! (don't worry, I don't mind hehehe) IT's a good relationship!

**G.I.BRO** · May 25, 2001, 07:13 AM

At least its a relationship u have. Im not at that stage yet. We just started to see each other over the last 3 weeks. 2.5weeks of that has been helping her through tough times at home...To long of a story to post in here....someday though,well maybe...

Thats why im taking her away from the weekend, shes so up tight right now, it crushes me to see someone like that..

xCLAVEx · May 25, 2001, 07:16 AM

YEs, I know, everybody has their problems at home and I have helped my girlfriend out many a time as she has helped me out. We have been together for over 2 years and are still going strong.

euan · May 25, 2001, 12:07 PM

two motives for this

see pojo at the botton, and give respect to members who only post to help, not just for the sake of post++ (not including me

)

ZepBrian · May 25, 2001, 12:27 PM

how do u find these stats out?

xCLAVEx · May 25, 2001, 12:29 PM

LOL bryan, he made it up. Just let him have his moment of glory because it will fade ever so quickly....

ZepBrian · May 25, 2001, 12:31 PM

yeah, but how did dustin yo know that he had the second most posts?

euan · May 25, 2001, 12:38 PM

well clicking on the members button, then top ten ie:

http://www.rage3d.com/board/memberli...ers&perpage=10

And the graph isn't made up here's the spreadsheet:

Code:

Mystik  	14/06/1999	1058	711	0.672022684
Slaykill	23/05/2000	955	367	0.384293194
TheBeagle	25/08/2000	835	273	0.326946108
Sasquach	24/06/2000	1052	335	0.318441065
Ogreboy 	30/09/2000	778	237	0.304627249
shrike126	30/09/2000	794	237	0.298488665
Euankirkhope	23/07/2000	1090	306	0.280733945
Genius  	04/11/2000	729	202	0.277091907
RadeonMAXX	28/09/2000	895	239	0.267039106
**G.I.BRO**	04/11/2000	772	202	0.261658031
Humus   	10/10/2000	940	227	0.241489362
Ichneumon	22/09/2000	1017	245	0.240904621
Curiophile	14/10/2000	1052	223	0.211977186
RAGE LT MAN	06/02/2000	2611	474	0.18153964
FarENheiT	19/10/2000	1351	218	0.161361954
Snuffoleupagus	22/10/2000	1337	215	0.160807779
CyberStoner	14/11/2000	1336	192	0.143712575
Dustinyo	06/01/2001	1376	139	0.101017442
Uriel   	23/02/2001	912	91	0.099780702
Pojo    	23/03/2001	1215	63	0.051851852

ZepBrian · May 25, 2001, 12:56 PM

im #39..... i will catch up to u all soon! mark my words!!

**G.I.BRO** · May 25, 2001, 02:52 PM

Whats te 2nd coloum for.....where for me its says 202?!?! I never seen that before...

and oh!

Heck, i dont mind that chart above about helping posts....Im just above the middle on that list!!

Humus · May 25, 2001, 02:59 PM

I'm #13 ... I better start posting more to make up for the summer silence

Mystik · May 25, 2001, 05:27 PM

Woah.. wha..
why am I at the top?

What do each of those columns mean?

Woohoo! i'm .. uhh.. "High-up" there.. .. somewhere.. =P

Protonikist · May 25, 2001, 05:36 PM

Lets see.. I think it goes like this:

1)Mystik
2)14/06/1999
3)1058
4)711
5)0.672022684

1) Your Name
2) The date that you joined.
3) Your current number of posts.
4) How many days its been since you've joined.
5) The caculation of #4/#3. The higher the number, the less you have posted since you've been here.

As in pojo, hes the lowest because hes at 20 some posts per day. (I.e. LOTS OF CRAP POSTS!)
Mystik average is around 1.5 posts per day.

Sasquach · May 25, 2001, 07:05 PM

Hey hey im number 9!!
Most my posts are nothing more than BS/Improv joke posts

And a few help ones every now and then

May 25, 2001, 07:11 PM

Whoa I dont like what you saying kottonwood. Is there any way to actually see what the post word count average is? I not the most guilty of posting just for posts. After people started to abuse that I became Pojo 2.0 because the post counts are inflated and worthless now. I actually try not to post unless it has some substance to it. This isn’t always the case but I dont abuse the forum just to get posts up. I am one of the most helpful on these boards damn it... I want justice damn it...

Did I start a useless thread about being number two? Did I waist time on lots of pointless song rewrites? Or post picture links one per post? There are far worst offenders then me so dont blame me for making posts worthless.

Protonikist · May 25, 2001, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Is there any way to actually see what the post word count average is?

---edit---
Wait.. I just read your question again.. if your talking about how many words per post? Then no. Thats not yet tracked by this forum system. I was saying yes to how many posts per day.
--- /edit ---

Yes there is.. just click on somebodies profile.
Here is yours pojo 2.0

And here is mine.

And here is the old pojo.

You'll see the numbers to the right over of the listing of Total Posts:

euankirkhope; the file numbers you made up. While total days/total posts works well. It should have been Total Posts/Total Days. That would have given you a 'Posts per day' instead of a 'Mean Time Average' between posts. Which (with 1440 mins in a day) comes out as 1 hour 15 mins (75 mins) between posts with the old 'Pojo'.

I didn't mean to totaly imply that all your posts were crap pojo. It just seemed like that. For ever 10 "random" posts you made, I bet 2 or 3 of them where helpful posts.

May 25, 2001, 07:31 PM

You misunderstood me I want to know the average size of each post. To find out if they were all one liners or actually had substance. This isnt a perfect method but it does help to show just how much effort a person put into their posts. Even when I was Pojo I tried to stay away from one liners and such. Which I cant say the same about other members. So I would like to know just what my average word count is for a post...

Protonikist · May 25, 2001, 07:41 PM

You can read every post made by that person.. this is how you get it. (This is mine btw)
Click on the 'Members' Tab
Click on the 'Advanced Search link
In the 'User Name contains' line, write down the nick you wana find.
It will find the user (users)
On the user name line, under 'Find Posts' click on the link labeled 'search'
Wait for the forum to do its search. And you will get something like this (same as mine was) this is what yours looks like Pojo 2.0
You have to take a look at every post to see if the person is one line'ing, posting a smack full of crap or really posting something worthwhile.

high_ping · May 25, 2001, 08:32 PM

Shoud'nt we do this by who has the most reliable system? I mean...hmmm...well...hmmm...not just who has posted the most...hmmm?

**shrike126** · May 25, 2001, 09:50 PM

Rock on! There I am, right near the top, within the top 10...WOO HOO! I rule, among a few others! This place is ours, clear out scrubs! See teachers, and you said I'd never amount to anything!?! Come on Sasquach, let's start marking our territory...look out posters, we're the big dogs of this forum, and we're lifting our legs.

euan · May 26, 2001, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kottonwood

euankirkhope; the file numbers you made up. While total days/total posts works well. It should have been Total Posts/Total Days. That would have given you a 'Posts per day' instead of a 'Mean Time Average' between posts. Which (with 1440 mins in a day) comes out as 1 hour 15 mins (75 mins) between posts with the old 'Pojo'.

No the point was to get people who had been members the longest, with a decent number of posts up top. Not people who make 1000posts/month.

Mystik · May 26, 2001, 11:06 AM

I don't have a lot of posts even though i've been here more because
when I first came here - i knew nothing.. i would go through every
forum (even the Rage128 forums, even though I only had a RagePro)
and just read and read.. "Gathering of Information" just incase
i even needed it..

Like when the Radeon first came out, I would read the Radeon forums
so that I know what things to expect (ie. Bugs, and how to fix them
if there is a fix...).. now that I DO have a Radeon, I participate
in trying to help others / ask help when i come across a prob, or
mindlessly make a fool out of myself in some of the "Off Topic"
threads, minus this one. +P

euan · May 26, 2001, 12:31 PM

I usually just post saying "Use the search". I get irritated by people coming in asking a simple question, expecting someone else to do all the leg work (searching) for them.

here's some more evil number manipulation excel fun:

members top 100 Co-efficient!
members top 100 Posters
members top 100 Excel Spreadsheet

Mystik · May 26, 2001, 06:26 PM

Woah.. you know you're bored when..

=)

ZepBrian · May 26, 2001, 07:02 PM

its ok though, cause i am still god, and i will catch u all!!!

ZepBrian · May 26, 2001, 07:34 PM

tied for 36

euan · May 26, 2001, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mystik
Woah.. you know you're bored when..

=)

Yup.

ZepBrian · May 26, 2001, 10:34 PM

very true

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May 25, 2001, 07:16 AM	#5
xCLAVEx FYI FTP BGI BOYB Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 25,921	YEs, I know, everybody has their problems at home and I have helped my girlfriend out many a time as she has helped me out. We have been together for over 2 years and are still going strong. __________________ "Ok to lose to opponent, must not lose to fear!" ~Mr. Myagi. "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin "A man moaning in a pr0n sounds like a cow with a kidney stone." "It's often not your fault if you have problems, but it is your responsibility to do something about them".

May 25, 2001, 06:34 AM	#2
G.I.BRO Berwip crawna-wi pinibon Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mississauga Posts: 30,180	SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOT ive dropped back to 19th....GRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrr I knew it, ive been slacking as of late. Sorry guys, its the damn girlfriend wanna be, shes taking up all of my time as of late. Dont worrry, a lil'bitch slap here and there will change all of that!!! Ummm first i'l wait after the weekend, taking her out of town, shes been going through some major fam probs...So i better work this shiat propa before i get nothing!

May 25, 2001, 07:02 AM	#3
xCLAVEx FYI FTP BGI BOYB Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 25,921	HeHeHE, yep I'm in your same boat GI. My girlfriend also demands my time! (don't worry, I don't mind hehehe) IT's a good relationship! __________________ "Ok to lose to opponent, must not lose to fear!" ~Mr. Myagi. "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin "A man moaning in a pr0n sounds like a cow with a kidney stone." "It's often not your fault if you have problems, but it is your responsibility to do something about them".

May 25, 2001, 07:13 AM	#4
G.I.BRO Berwip crawna-wi pinibon Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mississauga Posts: 30,180	At least its a relationship u have. Im not at that stage yet. We just started to see each other over the last 3 weeks. 2.5weeks of that has been helping her through tough times at home...To long of a story to post in here....someday though,well maybe... Thats why im taking her away from the weekend, shes so up tight right now, it crushes me to see someone like that..

May 25, 2001, 12:07 PM	#6
euan Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Newcastle, Australia Posts: 7,003	two motives for this see pojo at the botton, and give respect to members who only post to help, not just for the sake of post++ (not including me ) __________________ "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as kids, we'd all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive music...." -- - Kristian Wilson, CEO, Nintendo Gaming Corporation, Inc, 1989

May 25, 2001, 12:27 PM	#7
ZepBrian Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amherst, MA Posts: 10,271	how do u find these stats out?

May 25, 2001, 12:29 PM	#8
xCLAVEx FYI FTP BGI BOYB Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 25,921	LOL bryan, he made it up. Just let him have his moment of glory because it will fade ever so quickly.... __________________ "Ok to lose to opponent, must not lose to fear!" ~Mr. Myagi. "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin "A man moaning in a pr0n sounds like a cow with a kidney stone." "It's often not your fault if you have problems, but it is your responsibility to do something about them".

May 25, 2001, 12:31 PM	#9
ZepBrian Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amherst, MA Posts: 10,271	yeah, but how did dustin yo know that he had the second most posts?

May 25, 2001, 12:56 PM	#11
ZepBrian Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amherst, MA Posts: 10,271	im #39..... i will catch up to u all soon! mark my words!!

May 25, 2001, 02:52 PM	#12
G.I.BRO Berwip crawna-wi pinibon Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mississauga Posts: 30,180	Whats te 2nd coloum for.....where for me its says 202?!?! I never seen that before... and oh! Heck, i dont mind that chart above about helping posts....Im just above the middle on that list!!

May 25, 2001, 02:59 PM	#13
Humus Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 6,268	I'm #13 ... I better start posting more to make up for the summer silence

May 25, 2001, 05:27 PM	#14
Mystik Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: etobicoke Posts: 5,625	Woah.. wha.. why am I at the top? What do each of those columns mean? Woohoo! i'm .. uhh.. "High-up" there.. .. somewhere.. =P __________________ low yield toner cartridge.

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May 25, 2001, 05:36 PM	#15
Protonikist NWN-Ranger Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Georgia/Augusta/Ft. Gordon! Posts: 927	Lets see.. I think it goes like this: 1)Mystik 2)14/06/1999 3)1058 4)711 5)0.672022684 1) Your Name 2) The date that you joined. 3) Your current number of posts. 4) How many days its been since you've joined. 5) The caculation of #4/#3. The higher the number, the less you have posted since you've been here. As in pojo, hes the lowest because hes at 20 some posts per day. (I.e. LOTS OF CRAP POSTS!) Mystik average is around 1.5 posts per day. __________________ Get the facts, analyze and make a decision. It's amazing how many people skip step one. [Motherboard: ASUS P4T533-C] \| [CPU: P4 2.8Ghz 533MHz FSB] \| [Memory: Kingston Dual Channel RAMBUS @ 512MB] \| [AGP 4x: Hercules ATI 9800 PRO] \| [Display: ViewSonic VP171b LCD 1200x1024 32-bit] \| [Operating System: Windows XP SP1 Home • DX9.1a] \| [Sound: SB Audigy] \| [Drives: Maxtor 120GB 7200 • Creative DVD-ROM 12X • PleXwriter 12/10/32X] \| [Net Connection: @Comcast.net 'Faster then a T1' Cable]

May 25, 2001, 07:05 PM	#16
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May 25, 2001, 07:11 PM	#17
Pojo 2.0 Posts: n/a	Hold On There Sparky Whoa I dont like what you saying kottonwood. Is there any way to actually see what the post word count average is? I not the most guilty of posting just for posts. After people started to abuse that I became Pojo 2.0 because the post counts are inflated and worthless now. I actually try not to post unless it has some substance to it. This isn’t always the case but I dont abuse the forum just to get posts up. I am one of the most helpful on these boards damn it... I want justice damn it... Did I start a useless thread about being number two? Did I waist time on lots of pointless song rewrites? Or post picture links one per post? There are far worst offenders then me so dont blame me for making posts worthless.

May 25, 2001, 07:31 PM	#19
Pojo 2.0 Posts: n/a	Average Word Count Per Post You misunderstood me I want to know the average size of each post. To find out if they were all one liners or actually had substance. This isnt a perfect method but it does help to show just how much effort a person put into their posts. Even when I was Pojo I tried to stay away from one liners and such. Which I cant say the same about other members. So I would like to know just what my average word count is for a post...

May 25, 2001, 07:41 PM	#20
Protonikist NWN-Ranger Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Georgia/Augusta/Ft. Gordon! Posts: 927	ok.. average post size?.. yes and no. You can read every post made by that person.. this is how you get it. (This is mine btw) Click on the 'Members' Tab Click on the 'Advanced Search link In the 'User Name contains' line, write down the nick you wana find. It will find the user (users) On the user name line, under 'Find Posts' click on the link labeled 'search' Wait for the forum to do its search. And you will get something like this (same as mine was) this is what yours looks like Pojo 2.0 You have to take a look at every post to see if the person is one line'ing, posting a smack full of crap or really posting something worthwhile. __________________ Get the facts, analyze and make a decision. It's amazing how many people skip step one. [Motherboard: ASUS P4T533-C] \| [CPU: P4 2.8Ghz 533MHz FSB] \| [Memory: Kingston Dual Channel RAMBUS @ 512MB] \| [AGP 4x: Hercules ATI 9800 PRO] \| [Display: ViewSonic VP171b LCD 1200x1024 32-bit] \| [Operating System: Windows XP SP1 Home • DX9.1a] \| [Sound: SB Audigy] \| [Drives: Maxtor 120GB 7200 • Creative DVD-ROM 12X • PleXwriter 12/10/32X] \| [Net Connection: @Comcast.net 'Faster then a T1' Cable] Last edited by Protonikist : May 25, 2001 at 07:44 PM.

May 25, 2001, 08:32 PM	#21
high_ping King of the Wicker People Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,939	Shoud'nt we do this by who has the most reliable system? I mean...hmmm...well...hmmm...not just who has posted the most...hmmm?

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May 26, 2001, 11:06 AM	#24
Mystik Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: etobicoke Posts: 5,625	I don't have a lot of posts even though i've been here more because when I first came here - i knew nothing.. i would go through every forum (even the Rage128 forums, even though I only had a RagePro) and just read and read.. "Gathering of Information" just incase i even needed it.. Like when the Radeon first came out, I would read the Radeon forums so that I know what things to expect (ie. Bugs, and how to fix them if there is a fix...).. now that I DO have a Radeon, I participate in trying to help others / ask help when i come across a prob, or mindlessly make a fool out of myself in some of the "Off Topic" threads, minus this one. +P __________________ low yield toner cartridge.

May 26, 2001, 12:31 PM	#25
euan Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Newcastle, Australia Posts: 7,003	I usually just post saying "Use the search". I get irritated by people coming in asking a simple question, expecting someone else to do all the leg work (searching) for them. here's some more evil number manipulation excel fun: members top 100 Co-efficient! members top 100 Posters members top 100 Excel Spreadsheet __________________ "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as kids, we'd all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive music...." -- - Kristian Wilson, CEO, Nintendo Gaming Corporation, Inc, 1989 Last edited by euan : May 26, 2001 at 12:41 PM.

May 26, 2001, 06:26 PM	#26
Mystik Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: etobicoke Posts: 5,625	Woah.. you know you're bored when.. =) __________________ low yield toner cartridge.

May 26, 2001, 07:02 PM	#27
ZepBrian Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amherst, MA Posts: 10,271	its ok though, cause i am still god, and i will catch u all!!!

May 26, 2001, 07:34 PM	#28
ZepBrian Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amherst, MA Posts: 10,271	tied for 36

May 26, 2001, 10:34 PM	#30
ZepBrian Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amherst, MA Posts: 10,271	very true

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