3.4's create a duel monitor bug!!

MarleyGPN · May 16, 2003, 10:31 AM

I just installed cat 3.4 and AA and AF now no longer work. Please Help

ciparis · May 16, 2003, 10:45 AM

I noticed that I once again have to restart before AA changes take effect. Might just be my system. But try rebooting.

blackgoat · May 16, 2003, 10:46 AM

I had the same problem. I reinstalled and it was fine. The difference? The first time i installed, I didn't reboot between installing the drivers and the control panel. I didn't think this would be an issue as this is how I always installed Cats. The second time I rebooted between the drivers and the control panel as the install asks you to and it is fine now.

MarleyGPN · May 16, 2003, 11:15 AM

Ill try that that and post the results. Thanks for replying

El Coyote · May 16, 2003, 11:50 AM

I have the same problem and have tried installing 3.4 in the 'right' way.. amongst others, but aa is still a no go on my 9500np

MarleyGPN · May 16, 2003, 12:19 PM

Are you by any chance using two monitors? ATi did something to the control panel. I played with it for a while and noticed that the OpenGL and Direct3d setting change for both monitors at the same time. It never used to do this before. In order to get any setting to work I have to disable the second monitor and then set the AA and AF setting after that then I can renable the second monitor. The AA and AF setting do not do anything after the second monitor is enabled no matter where you set it, only the setting that you set while the second monitor is disables takes effect. Can someone please confirm this?

El Coyote · May 16, 2003, 12:53 PM

yep 2 monitors

to enable aa and aniso you have to disable the extended desktop and the secondary monitor, set the settings and reboot...

quite a troublesome maneuver i'd say :\

this needs fixing.

MarleyGPN · May 16, 2003, 01:02 PM

You do not need to reboot, just set the setting after disableing the monitor then renable and play your game. I have been playing with it and did not have to reboot for the setting to take into effect. I have another computer that has cat 3.1 installed with the radeon 9700. That cat version lets me set the monitor OpenGl and Direct3d setting indepedently. When I turn on AA or AF on both monitors it wont work, but if i have AF or AA enabled only on the monitor that I am playing the game on (priamry monitor) it works fine. What I noiced with cat 3.4 is that it sets the setting on or off for both monitors at the same time and will not let you idepdeantly set the OpenGL and Direct3d setting on each monitor. This is what is causing the problem and why I wish ATi would release the source code for the control penal and let us deal with it (yea, i know its never going to happen, but it would make things like this easy to fix. Its a pain to beg them to add things or fix them on the fourms when you can do it yourself). What they are probably going to have to do is let us be able to set the setting idependtly for the monitors.

Thanks for replying btw

Cat Maker: Is there a way of fixing this in the registry or adding our own tab to set the OpenGL and Direct3d setting idepenantly? Haveing AA and AF enabled or disables on both monitors is causing problems. I noticed this on both my computers. Thanks again

BTW, how do you change the title of the thread? I would like to rename it to something that has to do with the Dual monitor problems.

El Coyote · May 16, 2003, 01:16 PM

i needed to reboot. just setting the sliders and applying had no effect whatsoever, after a reboot the changes was in place though. I've submitted a report to the driver feedback

MarleyGPN · May 16, 2003, 01:32 PM

If anyone else has two monitor hooked up to their ATi card, could you please post here if you have the same problem or if you were abe to fix this. I just want to make sure this isnt an isolated case of just a few people.

Thank you

blackgoat · May 16, 2003, 02:20 PM

I'll have to check again when i get home, but I run dual monitors and after the reinstall, it works fine. I don't have to disable the secondary or reboot to get the settings to stick. I test it out when i do get home though just to make sure.

MarleyGPN · May 16, 2003, 03:17 PM

thx for helping, I am still playing around with the setting tring to figure out how to set them indepedantly on each monitor like we used to be able to.

Runner3001 · May 16, 2003, 08:00 PM

I have the problem as well, spent hours figuring this out yesterday, finally after multiple reinstalls, cleanings and postings about it on Driverheaven I disabled my second monitor and low and behold, the control panel worked. Im pretty sure it has something to do with having your primary monitor hooked up to the VGA port instead of the DVI, drivers don't seem to check which one you have selected as primary in the display tab.

AOS_Valium · May 16, 2003, 08:36 PM

WOw...nice to get this info. I did 2 reformats...etc...

Both myself and my squad mate are having the same issue, may attempt 3.4 again once I can see straight.

TimothyB · May 16, 2003, 08:46 PM

I'm running two monitors and on my 9700pro. I did have that problem, but I reinstalled the drivers to fix it. Though, I'm at work and can't remember if I tested the Elite II demo and Unreal II demo with AA before or after activating extended desktop again and I haven't tried anything since.

I'lll get back to you on that.

MarleyGPN · May 16, 2003, 10:35 PM

I realized it 40 min after install when I could not set the setting for the monitor idependantly which was very strange

I send a PM about it to cat maker on Driverheaven (his box here was full) about it but im not sure what hes going to do about it. I asked if they could try it at the lab to see if they can reproduce the issue and have it fixed.

Edit: How do you change the title? I would like to change it from AA and AF dont work to something that has to do with the duel monitor issue.

Thanks

bhw752k · May 17, 2003, 12:49 AM

thanks for the tip. I was getting quite frustrated myself with this problem - I'm quite supprised that ATI didn't manage to catch this one. Thankfully I tend to leave my settings at 2xAA, 8xAF and just keep them there - this would be really annoying changing it all the time.

MarleyGPN · May 17, 2003, 12:51 AM

They should make a sticky with workarounds for problems like these. It would save people a lot of time.

Mr Steveo · May 17, 2003, 01:34 AM

If you send a Private message to G I Bro Im sure hed be happy to cahgne the name of the thread for ya.

BTW, Please keep thsi thread going. Excellent info!!! I have two monitors on two computers in the same room. But Im thinking of adding a KVM to take one monitor dual out of my 9700 in the next week or so. Im very interested in what you other dual montior folks find to be the easiest solution to the problems discussed in this thread.

MarleyGPN · May 17, 2003, 01:45 AM

Just sent him the message. I also asked him if he could set up a sticky for workarounds for bugs like these. This should save you guys a lot of time so you don’t have to play around with the drivers for hours and reinstall them a million times only to find that there is a solution to the problem.

Thanks you guys for confirming the problem, I hope this thread helps solve your problem

TimothyB · May 17, 2003, 02:53 AM

Yep, now that I'm home I have the problem.

Whatever the settings were before activating the 2nd monitor will be stuck and changes in the settings won't take effect, until I guess you disable extended desktop and change them then.

Still need to run some tests, though.

TimothyB · May 17, 2003, 03:06 AM

Ok, I had set the AA and AF settings to 4x and 8x before activating the 2nd display.

Then when I wanted to turn it off, as we all know it didn't work after that point. I even slided the bar to performance to see if a non custom setting sworked. They didn't.

Then I disabled the 2nd display and this time when going into the settings what I had in the begining was there again. I made some new setting, no AA and AF and went back to with my 2nd display enabled again.

This time I noticed it remember the performance settings that were there just before disabling the 2nd Display, even though the settings don't mean anything.

Very strange.

MarleyGPN · May 17, 2003, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Runner3001
Im pretty sure it has something to do with having your primary monitor hooked up to the VGA port instead of the DVI, drivers don't seem to check which one you have selected as primary in the display tab.

Would anyone like to test this, and post their findings? As much as I would like to, I can't. My computer is in Miami and im currently in Fort Myers.

Thanks again

AOS_Valium · May 17, 2003, 09:13 AM

Well Iam running my Primary 21" Trinitron via DVI right now with a fresh 3.4 driver/control panel instal. Everything is working great. AA and AF are both working, and can notice vast visual differences in game depending where I set AA and AF.

I have yet to hook up my other trinitron as of yet(VGA). Im not quite sure Im brave enough.

UPDATE:

I hooked up my primary DVI and secondary VGA. When I turned the pc back on my VGA (Secondary) became monitor No#1, while my Primary beame No#2. The AA and AF setting worked for the setting I had applied before and after I extended my desktop.

Im not sure If Iam able to adjust AA or AF sliders at this point, but at least half the battle has been won thus far. I Hope I am able to adjust AA and AF with this setup, and not have issues.

**G.I.BRO** · May 17, 2003, 10:54 AM

Changed the name of the thread for you guys, if you no likey, please tell me.

About the issue, i'll get the guys to look into it...

THANKS!!!
G.I.

AOS_MK_Ultra · May 17, 2003, 12:44 PM

Great info guys. I encountered one other small problem... I run a 9700 pro with an ATi Rage 128 pci card to power 3 monitors. I had to physically remove the pci card from the system before installing the Cat 3.4's, or AA and AF still wouldn't work...

blackgoat · May 17, 2003, 12:52 PM

I just did a bunch of testing and here is what I have found. This on my system running two LCDs with the primary on DVI and the secondary on d-sub. These tests all apply to AA, AF, and v-sync.

If the secondary is enabled, the settings cannot be actually changed. The sliders will change and even after a reboot, they will be in the position they were left in, but the settings will not be applied. ie: if I am at 4xAA 8xAF v-sync on, then change to app pref, app pref, v-sync off, I will remain at the original settings even thought the sliders will indicate the new ones. After a reboot, the sliders will still show the new settings, but the system will actually be using the old ones.

If the secondary is disabled, all settings are applied immediately. One interesting thing though is that when disabling the secondary, the sliders will revert back to the proper positions. So in the above example, after making changes to the settings, if I disable the secondary, the sliders will revert back to 4xAA, 8xAF v-sync on. I did notice however that the OpenGL sliders did not revert correctly, and put me back to only 4xAF instead of 8xAF.

So the only way that I am able to make changes to my settings is to disable the secondary, make the changes and then enable it again.

shuki · May 17, 2003, 01:10 PM

I simply concur with all blackgoat has just said. Except in my case, I installed drivers and CP and upon reboot I immediately enabled second monitor. Then proceeded to change my af and aa settings. But as we all know, it did nothing. So I had them set at 16xaf and 6x aa and disabled secondary and poof! my settings were all still at default settings just like they were before I ever enabled secondary monitor

Changed them all there and re enabled 2nd and now good to go

Narse77 · May 17, 2003, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MarleyGPN
If anyone else has two monitor hooked up to their ATi card, could you please post here if you have the same problem or if you were abe to fix this. I just want to make sure this isnt an isolated case of just a few people.

Thank you

Same problem here, I have to disable the second monitor to be able to set AA and AF, I had went back to the 3.2s because of it.

MarleyGPN · May 17, 2003, 01:46 PM

Hi,
Ive been thinking about this. All those settings in the control panel are chainging setting in the registry. The only thing I can think of right now is that when both monitors are enabled the sliders arnt changing the correct settings in the registry. From what I see there seems to be two settings. One when both monitors are enabled, and one when the second monitor is disabled. Both retain their previous settings, so there has to be more than one setting in the registry, and one dosent work. One possible solution that I can think of is creating a simple program, (I would if I knew how to program) that we can use in the system tray or somewhere to change the correct registry settings even if the second monitor is enabled. When I get back home Ill try chaning the settings directly in the registry and see what happens. If this is true, and anyone knows how to make a simple program with some sliders on it to change settings in the registry, your help would be appriciated.

Thanks

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MarleyGPN Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 107	Dual Monitors Problems I just installed cat 3.4 and AA and AF now no longer work. Please Help Last edited by MarleyGPN : May 16, 2003 at 01:06 PM.

May 16, 2003, 10:46 AM	#3
blackgoat devil's advocate Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: vancouver, bc canada Posts: 1,108	I had the same problem. I reinstalled and it was fine. The difference? The first time i installed, I didn't reboot between installing the drivers and the control panel. I didn't think this would be an issue as this is how I always installed Cats. The second time I rebooted between the drivers and the control panel as the install asks you to and it is fine now. __________________ Ubuntu 5.10 \| P4 3.0E \| Asus P4P800-SE \| 1GB Shikatronics PC4000 \| BFG 6800 OC \| Audigy 2ZS \| Maxtor 300GB \| Dell 2005FPW & 1800FP

May 16, 2003, 01:02 PM	#8
MarleyGPN Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 107	You do not need to reboot, just set the setting after disableing the monitor then renable and play your game. I have been playing with it and did not have to reboot for the setting to take into effect. I have another computer that has cat 3.1 installed with the radeon 9700. That cat version lets me set the monitor OpenGl and Direct3d setting indepedently. When I turn on AA or AF on both monitors it wont work, but if i have AF or AA enabled only on the monitor that I am playing the game on (priamry monitor) it works fine. What I noiced with cat 3.4 is that it sets the setting on or off for both monitors at the same time and will not let you idepdeantly set the OpenGL and Direct3d setting on each monitor. This is what is causing the problem and why I wish ATi would release the source code for the control penal and let us deal with it (yea, i know its never going to happen, but it would make things like this easy to fix. Its a pain to beg them to add things or fix them on the fourms when you can do it yourself). What they are probably going to have to do is let us be able to set the setting idependtly for the monitors. Thanks for replying btw Cat Maker: Is there a way of fixing this in the registry or adding our own tab to set the OpenGL and Direct3d setting idepenantly? Haveing AA and AF enabled or disables on both monitors is causing problems. I noticed this on both my computers. Thanks again BTW, how do you change the title of the thread? I would like to rename it to something that has to do with the Dual monitor problems. Last edited by MarleyGPN : May 17, 2003 at 12:55 AM.

May 16, 2003, 01:16 PM	#9
El Coyote Radeon HD 4600 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Outer Rim Posts: 52	i needed to reboot. just setting the sliders and applying had no effect whatsoever, after a reboot the changes was in place though. I've submitted a report to the driver feedback Last edited by El Coyote : May 16, 2003 at 01:23 PM.

May 16, 2003, 02:20 PM	#11
blackgoat devil's advocate Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: vancouver, bc canada Posts: 1,108	I'll have to check again when i get home, but I run dual monitors and after the reinstall, it works fine. I don't have to disable the secondary or reboot to get the settings to stick. I test it out when i do get home though just to make sure. __________________ Ubuntu 5.10 \| P4 3.0E \| Asus P4P800-SE \| 1GB Shikatronics PC4000 \| BFG 6800 OC \| Audigy 2ZS \| Maxtor 300GB \| Dell 2005FPW & 1800FP

May 16, 2003, 10:45 AM	#2
ciparis Radeon HD 4870 Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 425	I noticed that I once again have to restart before AA changes take effect. Might just be my system. But try rebooting. __________________ Kryten: Sir, a class A enforcement orb can easily outrun us. Lister: Kryten, the Eastbourne zimmer-frame relay team can easily outrun us. It's not about speed it's about wit, brains and cunning. Kryten: Hmm, I was hoping it wouldn't come to that sir.

May 16, 2003, 11:15 AM	#4
MarleyGPN Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 107	Ill try that that and post the results. Thanks for replying

May 16, 2003, 11:50 AM	#5
El Coyote Radeon HD 4600 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Outer Rim Posts: 52	I have the same problem and have tried installing 3.4 in the 'right' way.. amongst others, but aa is still a no go on my 9500np

May 16, 2003, 12:19 PM	#6
MarleyGPN Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 107	Are you by any chance using two monitors? ATi did something to the control panel. I played with it for a while and noticed that the OpenGL and Direct3d setting change for both monitors at the same time. It never used to do this before. In order to get any setting to work I have to disable the second monitor and then set the AA and AF setting after that then I can renable the second monitor. The AA and AF setting do not do anything after the second monitor is enabled no matter where you set it, only the setting that you set while the second monitor is disables takes effect. Can someone please confirm this?

May 16, 2003, 12:53 PM	#7
El Coyote Radeon HD 4600 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Outer Rim Posts: 52	yep 2 monitors to enable aa and aniso you have to disable the extended desktop and the secondary monitor, set the settings and reboot... quite a troublesome maneuver i'd say :\ this needs fixing.

May 16, 2003, 01:32 PM	#10
MarleyGPN Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 107	If anyone else has two monitor hooked up to their ATi card, could you please post here if you have the same problem or if you were abe to fix this. I just want to make sure this isnt an isolated case of just a few people. Thank you

May 16, 2003, 03:17 PM	#12
MarleyGPN Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 107	thx for helping, I am still playing around with the setting tring to figure out how to set them indepedantly on each monitor like we used to be able to.

May 16, 2003, 08:00 PM	#13
Runner3001 Bitter Canuck. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 353	I have the problem as well, spent hours figuring this out yesterday, finally after multiple reinstalls, cleanings and postings about it on Driverheaven I disabled my second monitor and low and behold, the control panel worked. Im pretty sure it has something to do with having your primary monitor hooked up to the VGA port instead of the DVI, drivers don't seem to check which one you have selected as primary in the display tab. __________________ \| AMD64 X2 3800+ @ 2.7ghz \| Asus A8N-SLI \| OCZ 2048MB PC4000 \| 7800GT SLI \| 2x200gb Maxtor DMP10 RAID0 \| 200gb WD SE \| 120gb WD SE \| Doggus, w00f.

May 16, 2003, 08:36 PM	#14
AOS_Valium Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: May 2003 Location: minneapolis Posts: 13	WOw...nice to get this info. I did 2 reformats...etc... Both myself and my squad mate are having the same issue, may attempt 3.4 again once I can see straight. __________________ AOS_Valium Ace Of Spades FA 3.5

May 16, 2003, 08:46 PM	#15
TimothyB Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 3,202	I'm running two monitors and on my 9700pro. I did have that problem, but I reinstalled the drivers to fix it. Though, I'm at work and can't remember if I tested the Elite II demo and Unreal II demo with AA before or after activating extended desktop again and I haven't tried anything since. I'lll get back to you on that.

May 16, 2003, 10:35 PM	#16
MarleyGPN Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 107	I realized it 40 min after install when I could not set the setting for the monitor idependantly which was very strange I send a PM about it to cat maker on Driverheaven (his box here was full) about it but im not sure what hes going to do about it. I asked if they could try it at the lab to see if they can reproduce the issue and have it fixed. Edit: How do you change the title? I would like to change it from AA and AF dont work to something that has to do with the duel monitor issue. Thanks Last edited by MarleyGPN : May 16, 2003 at 10:38 PM.

May 17, 2003, 12:49 AM	#17
bhw752k X850 Pro 16 pipes Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Edmonton Posts: 323	thanks for the tip. I was getting quite frustrated myself with this problem - I'm quite supprised that ATI didn't manage to catch this one. Thankfully I tend to leave my settings at 2xAA, 8xAF and just keep them there - this would be really annoying changing it all the time. __________________ Gigabyte K8MSC NF3 939 \| A64 3000+ @2.52GHz \| 1GB DDR400 \| Radeon X850 Pro 16 pipe softmod

May 17, 2003, 12:51 AM	#18
MarleyGPN Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 107	They should make a sticky with workarounds for problems like these. It would save people a lot of time.

May 17, 2003, 01:34 AM	#19
Mr Steveo Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 100	If you send a Private message to G I Bro Im sure hed be happy to cahgne the name of the thread for ya. BTW, Please keep thsi thread going. Excellent info!!! I have two monitors on two computers in the same room. But Im thinking of adding a KVM to take one monitor dual out of my 9700 in the next week or so. Im very interested in what you other dual montior folks find to be the easiest solution to the problems discussed in this thread. __________________ Intel Pentium 4 3.0 GHz / 800 * Zalman 7000Cu HSF * Intel D865PERLK "Rock Lake" mobo * 2x 512MB PNY PC3500 * ATI Radeon 9800Pro 128 * 2x WD Raptors in RAID on ICH5R 128k stripe * Soundblaster Audigy 2 * Lite On DVD * Lite On 52-24-52 CDRW * Antec TC550 PSU * Antec Sonata case * Windows XP Pro. SP1a

May 17, 2003, 01:45 AM	#20
MarleyGPN Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 107	Just sent him the message. I also asked him if he could set up a sticky for workarounds for bugs like these. This should save you guys a lot of time so you don’t have to play around with the drivers for hours and reinstall them a million times only to find that there is a solution to the problem. Thanks you guys for confirming the problem, I hope this thread helps solve your problem

May 17, 2003, 02:53 AM	#21
TimothyB Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 3,202	Yep, now that I'm home I have the problem. Whatever the settings were before activating the 2nd monitor will be stuck and changes in the settings won't take effect, until I guess you disable extended desktop and change them then. Still need to run some tests, though.

May 17, 2003, 03:06 AM	#22
TimothyB Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 3,202	Ok, I had set the AA and AF settings to 4x and 8x before activating the 2nd display. Then when I wanted to turn it off, as we all know it didn't work after that point. I even slided the bar to performance to see if a non custom setting sworked. They didn't. Then I disabled the 2nd display and this time when going into the settings what I had in the begining was there again. I made some new setting, no AA and AF and went back to with my 2nd display enabled again. This time I noticed it remember the performance settings that were there just before disabling the 2nd Display, even though the settings don't mean anything. Very strange.

May 17, 2003, 09:13 AM	#24
AOS_Valium Radeon HD 4350 Join Date: May 2003 Location: minneapolis Posts: 13	Well Iam running my Primary 21" Trinitron via DVI right now with a fresh 3.4 driver/control panel instal. Everything is working great. AA and AF are both working, and can notice vast visual differences in game depending where I set AA and AF. I have yet to hook up my other trinitron as of yet(VGA). Im not quite sure Im brave enough. UPDATE: I hooked up my primary DVI and secondary VGA. When I turned the pc back on my VGA (Secondary) became monitor No#1, while my Primary beame No#2. The AA and AF setting worked for the setting I had applied before and after I extended my desktop. Im not sure If Iam able to adjust AA or AF sliders at this point, but at least half the battle has been won thus far. I Hope I am able to adjust AA and AF with this setup, and not have issues. __________________ AOS_Valium Ace Of Spades FA 3.5 Last edited by AOS_Valium : May 17, 2003 at 09:33 AM.

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May 17, 2003, 12:44 PM	#26
AOS_MK_Ultra Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1	Great info guys. I encountered one other small problem... I run a 9700 pro with an ATi Rage 128 pci card to power 3 monitors. I had to physically remove the pci card from the system before installing the Cat 3.4's, or AA and AF still wouldn't work... __________________ AOS_MK_Ultra -Ace 0f Spades- Last edited by AOS_MK_Ultra : May 17, 2003 at 12:48 PM.

May 17, 2003, 12:52 PM	#27
blackgoat devil's advocate Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: vancouver, bc canada Posts: 1,108	I just did a bunch of testing and here is what I have found. This on my system running two LCDs with the primary on DVI and the secondary on d-sub. These tests all apply to AA, AF, and v-sync. If the secondary is enabled, the settings cannot be actually changed. The sliders will change and even after a reboot, they will be in the position they were left in, but the settings will not be applied. ie: if I am at 4xAA 8xAF v-sync on, then change to app pref, app pref, v-sync off, I will remain at the original settings even thought the sliders will indicate the new ones. After a reboot, the sliders will still show the new settings, but the system will actually be using the old ones. If the secondary is disabled, all settings are applied immediately. One interesting thing though is that when disabling the secondary, the sliders will revert back to the proper positions. So in the above example, after making changes to the settings, if I disable the secondary, the sliders will revert back to 4xAA, 8xAF v-sync on. I did notice however that the OpenGL sliders did not revert correctly, and put me back to only 4xAF instead of 8xAF. So the only way that I am able to make changes to my settings is to disable the secondary, make the changes and then enable it again. __________________ Ubuntu 5.10 \| P4 3.0E \| Asus P4P800-SE \| 1GB Shikatronics PC4000 \| BFG 6800 OC \| Audigy 2ZS \| Maxtor 300GB \| Dell 2005FPW & 1800FP

May 17, 2003, 01:10 PM	#28
shuki Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: MIddle East Posts: 1,164	I simply concur with all blackgoat has just said. Except in my case, I installed drivers and CP and upon reboot I immediately enabled second monitor. Then proceeded to change my af and aa settings. But as we all know, it did nothing. So I had them set at 16xaf and 6x aa and disabled secondary and poof! my settings were all still at default settings just like they were before I ever enabled secondary monitor Changed them all there and re enabled 2nd and now good to go

May 17, 2003, 01:46 PM	#30
MarleyGPN Radeon HD 4830 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 107	Hi, Ive been thinking about this. All those settings in the control panel are chainging setting in the registry. The only thing I can think of right now is that when both monitors are enabled the sliders arnt changing the correct settings in the registry. From what I see there seems to be two settings. One when both monitors are enabled, and one when the second monitor is disabled. Both retain their previous settings, so there has to be more than one setting in the registry, and one dosent work. One possible solution that I can think of is creating a simple program, (I would if I knew how to program) that we can use in the system tray or somewhere to change the correct registry settings even if the second monitor is enabled. When I get back home Ill try chaning the settings directly in the registry and see what happens. If this is true, and anyone knows how to make a simple program with some sliders on it to change settings in the registry, your help would be appriciated. Thanks

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