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Old Sep 7, 2009, 02:46 PM   #1
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NEW YORK (CNN) -- Brian Milligan Sr. believes his son's race triggered a brutal attack on the streets of Buffalo, New York.
Brian Milligan Jr. poses with his girlfriend, Nicola Fletcher, before he was attacked last month.

Brian Milligan Jr. poses with his girlfriend, Nicola Fletcher, before he was attacked last month.

Armed with a chunk of concrete, several assailants beat Brian Milligan Jr. on the back of the head on August 18, leaving a 3-inch gash. They kicked him in the face, breaking his jaw.

Bloodied and bruised, the 18-year-old managed to walk five blocks to his grandmother's house before being rushed to the hospital.

Milligan's father believes several African-Americans beat his son, who is white, because he is dating an African-American woman. He wants police to treat the beating as a hate crime. He also has criticized what he calls a deafening silence from the community, police and the national media.

"If this was a black guy who was beaten by a group of white guys for dating a white girl, people would be up in arms," he said. "There's a double standard."


Buffalo police believe a group of about 10 to 15 African-American men attacked Milligan late at night, police spokesman Mike DeGeorge said. Police have made no arrests and are still investigating the motive, he said.

Milligan Sr. says he believes the attackers are the same "neighborhood guys" who threatened his son and his African-American girlfriend because of their interracial relationship.

The younger Milligan and his girlfriend, Nicola Fletcher, who is also 18, had recently complained of an increase in insults and threats in east Buffalo, where Fletcher lives and where Milligan was staying with his grandmother, Fletcher said.

"Every time they walk the streets, people stop him and call him 'cracker' and ask her why she's not with a black guy," Milligan Sr. said.

Two days before the attack, Fletcher said she was shot with paintball pellets by the same group of neighborhood aggressors.

"I'm afraid to walk the streets," she said. "Those guys are still out there."

Police "are making good progress in the case," said DeGeorge, the police spokesman. Investigators are still trying to determine if it should be declared a hate crime.

They have asked members of the community to call police if they have any information.

When Milligan was taken to Erie County Medical Center, he was unconscious and suffered blood on the brain and brain swelling as a result of the beating. He will see a neurosurgeon on September 10 to be evaluated, said his father.

He is now recovering at home and remembers nothing about the attack, which has made the police investigation even more difficult.

The story has touched a nerve with several members of Buffalo's African-American community, including a local pastor who leads a predominantly black church in Buffalo.

"At first, it didn't affect me the way that it would have if I heard it was a black teen attacked," said the Rev. Darius Pridgen, who spent years fighting for civil rights for African-Americans.

"But after I saw his father on TV pleading with the community to find the assailants, I decided I had to go after the people who beat this kid."

Pridgen said he felt that the community has turned a collective blind eye to the beating. So he gave a fire-and-brimstone sermon at the True Baptist Church on a Sunday after the attack, appealing to his congregation to help find the culprits.

"He didn't deserve to be beaten this way," Pridgen recalled saying at the service. "If you believe this, put your hands together."

If it was a black teen, Pridgen said, "We would have been protesting with flags and everything else."

Rod Watson also addressed the issue in his column in the Buffalo News. Watson, who is black, pointed out that interracial marriages are nearly 10 times higher than they were in 1960, according to U.S. Census data, but still those couples have a tough time being accepted by society.

"If blacks in Buffalo in 2009 are acting like whites in Selma in 1959, this society has big problems, despite electing a president who is himself the product of an interracial union," Watson said.

Judy Milligan, a community activist and Brian Milligan Jr.'s great-aunt, said she has been overwhelmed with support from her friends, both black and white.

Mary Woods, a member of Buffalo's African-American community, reached out to Milligan to offer her support.

"I don't care what color you are, when something like this happens, justice must be served," Woods said. "There had to be someone who saw something, and they should come forward."

Milligan Sr. has criticized the Buffalo Police Department for spending too much time "trying to prove this crime wasn't a hate crime instead of performing a solid investigation."

But DeGeorge said the department is pursuing the attackers with the same vigor as it would any crime.

"People tend to want crimes solved yesterday," DeGeorge said. "We are performing a thorough investigation and that takes time."

He expressed optimism that Buffalo residents would come forward to help bring the perpetrators to justice.

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Old Sep 7, 2009, 02:53 PM   #2
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Should be treated as a hate crime IMO. He's right, if this were the other way around it would be all over the news, and they would be charged with a hate crime for sure.
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Should be treated as a hate crime IMO. He's right, if this were the other way around it would be all over the news, and they would be charged with a hate crime for sure.
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It absolutely matters.

If a certian segment of society wants to be treated as wholly equal within that society they should also expect to be held equally ACCOUNTABLE & RESPONSIBLE for thier actions as is the rest of that society.

If not, then they are unjustly enjoying greater civil liberties than the rest of said society and are therefore guilty of the same type of prejudice and discrimination that they claim to be above in thier strive for equality.


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Does it really matter?
What?
What kind of comment is that?

Does it matter? **** YES IT MATTERS.

We see racism spewed from black people all the time about hate crimes whites. Yes they happen, but when a white is beaten by a black it's no ****ing problem.

THIS IS THE DAMN ISSUE.

Does it really matter... What a joke.
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What?
What kind of comment is that?

Does it matter? **** YES IT MATTERS.

We see racism spewed from black people all the time about hate crimes whites. Yes they happen, but when a white is beaten by a black it's no ****ing problem.

THIS IS THE DAMN ISSUE.

Does it really matter... What a joke.
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Should be treated as a hate crime IMO. He's right, if this were the other way around it would be all over the news, and they would be charged with a hate crime for sure.
Love the double standard...

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Yes it does. I am so sick of ignorant african-americans thinking they can ****ing run their mouth about hate crimes and then expect not to be held accountable for their hateful actions.

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What kind of comment is that?

Does it matter? **** YES IT MATTERS.

We see racism spewed from black people all the time about hate crimes whites. Yes they happen, but when a white is beaten by a black it's no ****ing problem.

THIS IS THE DAMN ISSUE.

Does it really matter... What a joke.
My thoughts exactly.
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What?
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Does it matter? **** YES IT MATTERS.

We see racism spewed from black people all the time about hate crimes whites. Yes they happen, but when a white is beaten by a black it's no ****ing problem.

THIS IS THE DAMN ISSUE.

Does it really matter... What a joke.
So, from your own words, when black people say something is a hate crime, they're spewing racism. Yet when a white guy says something is a hate crime, he's to be thought of as some kind of racial equality crusader. Gotcha.
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Honestly I'm surprised that this counts as a hate crime in either way.... I guess it fits the definition, but it doesn't really strike me of something serious enough to warrant the extreme penalties often associated with hate crimes.


I'm not saying it wasn't a bad thing to happen, I'm not saying anyone should be getting away with anything or advocating unequal treatment, but unless there's significant proof that he was beaten up for going out with a black girl then why isn't it just a beating?



Then again, in the spirit of equality, why the hell should the classification of a hate crime even exist? They beat him up, regardless of the reason they should be punished for it, and since motivation can be so difficult to determine sometimes, why even bother sticking on extra penalties with what's determined to be motivation in the end? The punishment should be the same regardless of who any of the people are, man or woman, black or white, gay or straight, etc.... and if we feel like we need additional penalties that hate crime classification would have associated with it, why not just up the penalties and keep it all even?
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White america is scared as hell today to raise their voices in fear of being labelled a racist. You know I'm right.
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So, from your own words, when black people say something is a hate crime, they're spewing racism. Yet when a white guy says something is a hate crime, he's to be thought of as some kind of racial equality crusader. Gotcha.
Hey, it's not my country that's giving in to Sharia law.. but then again, does it really matter?
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What is sharia law?
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Being in the neutral party ( I'm brown ) I think the man has a right to say that. If this was indeed harassment and an assault because of race then it's a hate crime. I'm taking this the most logical way possible.
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Should be treated as a hate crime IMO. He's right, if this were the other way around it would be all over the news, and they would be charged with a hate crime for sure.
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If a certain segment of society wants to be treated as wholly equal within that society they should also expect to be held equally ACCOUNTABLE & RESPONSIBLE for their actions as is the rest of that society.

If not, then they are unjustly enjoying greater civil liberties then the rest of said society and are therefore guilty of the same type of prejudice and discrimination that they claim to be above in their strive for equality.

Perfect example of a good reason why it matters.
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This is true to an extent. A lot of people are afraid to say anything that would bring on the accusations of them being a racist. In reality when shedding light on a subject about the indifference of races and someone else accuses you of being a racist, the accuser is the one who is the real racist.

Now if you take that in to context of the current situation, you would think that the guy wanting justice by insisting that the brutal beating be called "hate crime" and the men who are guilty be charged with the "hate crime", then the accuser would be guilty of being a racist. However, if you look in to the reason why the beating took place, you can say the men who did the beating are racist as well. So the argument goes both ways.

It's a sad world we live in. With so many indifferent people mixed in so many ways we still can't get past our ideology's of who's the better race or person. The lack of proper education leads to the downfall of humanity. The fact that we have no laws set in for how many children one can have also causes a downfall in humanity. When one person does not get the attention they want, they look in other places for it. This is part of nature. This is what we do.
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If the reason that the Caucasian male was attacked by a group of African Americans was because he was dating an African American female and he was Caucasian, I believe that constitutes a hate crime. Filburt may be of more help here.
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If the reason that the Caucasian male was attacked by a group of African Americans was because he was dating an African American female and he was Caucasian, I believe that constitutes a hate crime. Filburt may be of more help here.
That is correct. If the reasoning behind the attack was fueled by the fact that a Caucasian male was dating an African American female then yes, this was a hate crime.
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So, from your own words, when black people say something is a hate crime, they're spewing racism. Yet when a white guy says something is a hate crime, he's to be thought of as some kind of racial equality crusader. Gotcha.
I said it's spewed "all the time", because when something like this happens to a white person it's all good man no problems, because we owe them

If their is any negative interaction between a white and a black it usually ends up with a black man crying racism about how the bad ol' whitey insulted him, yet we get called crackers honkies you name it and you don't see that **** in the ****ing newspapers man. White people get beat up all the time by african-americans but you don't see us running to al sharpton with a fat eye. It's bull****.

You're ignorant or...

You must live in some little fairy tale with a bubble wrapped around it to not see the double standard.
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Wait, do you mean you want the perpetrators to be brought to justice (what he is really asking for) or do you mean you want him to get a beating from african-americans who think he's a dip****?
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Wait, do you mean you want the perpetrators to be brought to justice (what he is really asking for) or do you mean you want him to get a beating from african-americans who think he's a dip****?
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The whole hate crime thing is a joke.

Racism by itself should not be a crime as it is part of human nature. I'd compare it with being gay. What should be a crime is inciting racism, like the ku klux klan does. Just like gay pride parades are a crime against humanity .

Oh and any crime committed by a racist should be treated like a normal crime.
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Hey, it's not my country that's giving in to Sharia law.. but then again, does it really matter?
Don't get me wrong, it's handy to have people wear their prejudices on their sleeve but you're still frighteningly ignorant.
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Don't get me wrong, it's handy to have people wear their prejudices on their sleeve but you're still frighteningly ignorant.
Just bringing up when it's happening in your backyard, it may matter a bit more
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The whole hate crime thing is a joke.

Racism by itself should not be a crime as it is part of human nature. I'd compare it with being gay. What should be a crime is inciting racism, like the ku klux klan does. Just like gay pride parades are a crime against humanity .

Oh and any crime committed by a racist should be treated like a normal crime.
You can certainly say there's a case to be made for "assault is assault, it shouldn't matter if racial bias was a factor", but I also understand the reasoning for the hate crime statues. The reasoning is similar to the reasons why some murders are considered 1st-degree rather than 2nd-degree and as such carry stiffer penalties. Things like murdering a cop, murdering the witness to a crime, etc. are considered to have a more harmful effect on society and so should be punished more severely. Along the same vain, acts of violence based on racial/gender/religious/etc bias are considered to be especially detrimental to society, which is why the sentences are harsher. It may not seem fair to the victims of "ordinary" crimes, but when considering the full effect on society, but the law has to look at the bigger picture.
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Yes, it is a hate crime. In either case though it's questionable if that should weigh any heavier on punishment. Foremost this is a case of assault, and those responsible deserve a long stay in a manches prison.
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Pridgen said he felt that the community has turned a collective blind eye to the beating. So he gave a fire-and-brimstone sermon at the True Baptist Church on a Sunday after the attack, appealing to his congregation to help find the culprits.

"He didn't deserve to be beaten this way," Pridgen recalled saying at the service. "If you believe this, put your hands together."

If it was a black teen, Pridgen said, "We would have been protesting with flags and everything else."
It's been like this for as long as i can remember. They want racism to continue themselves it seems. Well whatever, if that's the case, i am ok with it .
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Why does everyone assume it's because he's dating the black chick? Maybe he's just a douche that runs his mouth a lot...
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