am i the only one who doesnt like Guillermo del Toro?

Kamiclone · Aug 31, 2009, 12:31 AM

I mean really? This guy isnt THAT great of a director. His movies are bland and never fullfill to their potential. I mean and give me a break with Ron Pearlman. We know he isnt a ****in academy award winner and yet people talk about him like he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. All he got apparently was a lucky break for del Toro having this like boyish crush on him and thus casts him in everything he does.
Lots of money, but honestly dismal failures.
But really i ask am i the only one who thinks this?

drspangle · Aug 31, 2009, 12:48 AM

Pan's Labaryth?

He's got something going for him. Most of his stuff is Spanish anyway, so you probably havn't seen it :P

/Edit: Not saying I have seen them... I've only seen Hellboy, Pan's Labarynth and (maybe?) Blade.

Debello · Aug 31, 2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamiclone

I mean really? This guy isnt THAT great of a director. His movies are bland and never fullfill to their potential. I mean and give me a break with Ron Pearlman. We know he isnt a ****in academy award winner and yet people talk about him like he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. All he got apparently was a lucky break for del Toro having this like boyish crush on him and thus casts him in everything he does.
Lots of money, but honestly dismal failures.
But really i ask am i the only one who thinks this?

Yes

YellowBeard · Aug 31, 2009, 01:03 AM

Pan's Labyrinth is amazing.

I'd love to see more from him as his films are visually striking in a good way. Mainly due to the amount of crazy stuff they do with traditional make-up and animatronics. Probably my favorite part about his movies, insane amounts of imagination and the blending of heavy traditional effects with CGI in a not overpowering way.

I can't wait for At the Mountains of Madness. I do so hope he manages to be able to pull that one off and it doesn't run out of steam and fizzle as he's gotta get through the Hobbit movies first though.

In short. Guillermo owns. He's my homeboy.

Debello · Aug 31, 2009, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by YellowBeard

Pan's Labyrinth is amazing.

I'd love to see more from him as his films are visually striking in a good way. Mainly due to the amount of crazy stuff they do with traditional make-up and animatronics. Probably my favorite part about his movies, insane amounts of imagination and the blending of heavy traditional effects with CGI in a not overpowering way.

I can't wait for At the Mountains of Madness. I do so hope he manages to be able to pull that one off and it doesn't run out of steam and fizzle as he's gotta get through the Hobbit movies first though.

In short. Guillermo owns. He's my homeboy.

I can't wait for the Hobbit

spajdr · Aug 31, 2009, 01:26 AM

His imagination is interesting (like that ogre in Hellboy II that was entrance to underground, or how death was looking). I like his movies.

Tork64 · Aug 31, 2009, 01:43 AM

If you havent seen The Devil's Backbone by Guillermo you should check it out.

pixie69 · Aug 31, 2009, 04:03 AM

just you

HiThere · Aug 31, 2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by YellowBeard

I can't wait for At the Mountains of Madness.

You mean like the lovecraft story? Srsly? Can't wait

The Luggage · Aug 31, 2009, 05:53 PM

Guillermo del Toro's movies are visually interesting. Much more so than any other I director that I can think of save maybe Tim Burton. And Ron Perlman was great as Hellboy.

biggerC · Aug 31, 2009, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamiclone

I mean really? This guy isnt THAT great of a director. His movies are bland and never fullfill to their potential. I mean and give me a break with Ron Pearlman. We know he isnt a ****in academy award winner and yet people talk about him like he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. All he got apparently was a lucky break for del Toro having this like boyish crush on him and thus casts him in everything he does.
Lots of money, but honestly dismal failures.
But really i ask am i the only one who thinks this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debello

Yes

QFT.

**Trunks0** · Aug 31, 2009, 07:36 PM

Liked this work in the Hellboy movies and Blade 2. However, I did not like Pan's Labyrinth very much. Wasn't a bad movie, just not what I was expecting *shrug*. I havn't seen his other works though.

OzzieBloke · Aug 31, 2009, 08:40 PM

He has great flair for visual styling and capturing a scene. He's a little clunky in his approach to story flow in some respects, but it's more than made up for by the former.

Kamiclone · Sep 1, 2009, 07:18 PM

i feel that most his movies have amazing potential but some how ruin it for me near the ends.
Pans Labryinth was visually stylish and so was the Hellboys, but i feel like they lack in.......plot.
I do think The Hobbit will be great with him since Peter Jackson is producing and will be writing, and since it comes from an even higher power (Tolkien) he's got an easy ride for this one.
I dunno, i just dont think he is that great really. Who here think Pearlman will be in the Hobbit?

bounty_hunter · Sep 1, 2009, 08:47 PM

he's a very visual director, the dude has great imagination and whoever designs these creatures and contraptions and machines is really interesting. I'm watching hellboy 2 and i'm floored by a lot of the stuff in here.

I can see why people don't like him though, plot is okay but starting with hellboy/2 you can see that it's just a popcorn flick, the humor is pretty bad and it's suppose to be a "fun ride". His story telling is iffy, again back to hellboy 2, it almost feels like blade 2 cheesiness ( which he directed).

He's produced some awesome stuff and pans labrynth was good but not great. He has great imagination and actually uses his budget. The cinematography is just okay. I guess if he didn't have the visual style he'd be another bland director.

wangFu · Sep 1, 2009, 09:08 PM

he should just focus on the visuals and get someone else to work on the plot, etc

Debello · Sep 1, 2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wangFu

he should just focus on the visuals and get someone else to work on the plot, etc

I find Guillermo del Toro very similar to Luc Besson and Micheal Bay, they need to find a executive producer who will narrow their focus.

Quickstrike · Sep 1, 2009, 10:04 PM

I loved Pan's Labyrinth, and I usually don't enjoy Fantasy movies.
They found a great cast for that movie - some excellent acting.

His others movies are pretty good, but nothing really great.

Gator · Sep 4, 2009, 08:35 AM

I think he either has a knack for creature creation and set design, or knows how to hire the right people. In that respect he's very good. From a story aspect, no I do not think he's anything legendary.

I do like the Hellboy series overall for the effects, action, and I like the Hellboy twist on history. The acting is by no means inspiring, but I do enjoy watching Ron Pearlman play a badass.

Pan's Labyrinth was cool purely for the creatures, but the story is just frigin depressing.

WarChilde · Sep 4, 2009, 07:54 PM

no, you

and ron perlman was great in quest for fire!!!!

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Kamiclone Galactic Odyssey Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wish i knew Posts: 3,875	am i the only one who doesnt like Guillermo del Toro? I mean really? This guy isnt THAT great of a director. His movies are bland and never fullfill to their potential. I mean and give me a break with Ron Pearlman. We know he isnt a ****in academy award winner and yet people talk about him like he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. All he got apparently was a lucky break for del Toro having this like boyish crush on him and thus casts him in everything he does. Lots of money, but honestly dismal failures. But really i ask am i the only one who thinks this? __________________ Most Visited Sites: www.rage3d.com/board www.yahoo.com www.myspace.com www.newegg.com www.ebay.com www.imdb.com

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drspangle Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 4,930	Pan's Labaryth? He's got something going for him. Most of his stuff is Spanish anyway, so you probably havn't seen it :P /Edit: Not saying I have seen them... I've only seen Hellboy, Pan's Labarynth and (maybe?) Blade. __________________ My Photos Soos om n sambreel in you poepol oop te maak Last edited by drspangle : Aug 31, 2009 at 12:54 AM.

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YellowBeard Self Preservation Society Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Agrestic Posts: 3,185	Pan's Labyrinth is amazing. I'd love to see more from him as his films are visually striking in a good way. Mainly due to the amount of crazy stuff they do with traditional make-up and animatronics. Probably my favorite part about his movies, insane amounts of imagination and the blending of heavy traditional effects with CGI in a not overpowering way. I can't wait for At the Mountains of Madness. I do so hope he manages to be able to pull that one off and it doesn't run out of steam and fizzle as he's gotta get through the Hobbit movies first though. In short. Guillermo owns. He's my homeboy. __________________ Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Federal Commission of T-Pain YellowBeard says, "Fold ya scurvy bstrds!"

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Kamiclone Galactic Odyssey Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wish i knew Posts: 3,875	i feel that most his movies have amazing potential but some how ruin it for me near the ends. Pans Labryinth was visually stylish and so was the Hellboys, but i feel like they lack in.......plot. I do think The Hobbit will be great with him since Peter Jackson is producing and will be writing, and since it comes from an even higher power (Tolkien) he's got an easy ride for this one. I dunno, i just dont think he is that great really. Who here think Pearlman will be in the Hobbit? __________________ Most Visited Sites: www.rage3d.com/board www.yahoo.com www.myspace.com www.newegg.com www.ebay.com www.imdb.com

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Quickstrike Verification Required. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 3,242	I loved Pan's Labyrinth, and I usually don't enjoy Fantasy movies. They found a great cast for that movie - some excellent acting. His others movies are pretty good, but nothing really great. __________________ 1st PC : Intel Core2Duo Q6600 Quad core, Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme, Gigabyte P35-DS3R, 8 gig OCZ DDR2, eVGA 8800GTX, Audigy 2 ZS, Klipsch 5.1 Ultras, 74 Gig Raptor, 1.5 TB Seagate x 2, 1.0 TB Seagate x 2, Cooler Master HAF 932, NEC FP2141-SB@1600x1200--109Hz. 2nd PC : AMD 64 3200+, MSI NEO2 Mboard, 1 gig OCZ Plat. Rev.2, eVGA 6800 GT, 300 gig Maxtor 16 meg cache, Antec P182-B.

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Gator Unreal Tournament Gamer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: New York Posts: 13,048	I think he either has a knack for creature creation and set design, or knows how to hire the right people. In that respect he's very good. From a story aspect, no I do not think he's anything legendary. I do like the Hellboy series overall for the effects, action, and I like the Hellboy twist on history. The acting is by no means inspiring, but I do enjoy watching Ron Pearlman play a badass. Pan's Labyrinth was cool purely for the creatures, but the story is just frigin depressing.

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