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Old Jun 14, 2019, 05:14 PM   #511
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Old Jun 14, 2019, 06:16 PM   #512
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early days of Steam store sucked as well. I got over that and I am dealing with the crap Epic store now. The big discounts and free games help a lot. As a backer of Shemue 3 it seems I will be playing my copy here now. lol
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early days of Steam store sucked as well.
I don't remember the Steam store ever not displaying basic **** like whether a game is singleplayer or what genre it is.
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Having some tech issues - purchased a game but cannot install it. Just sits idle under resume. Cannot uninstall it either. Support was quick to reply, but told me I stumbled upon a technical issue. I am still awaiting a fix.

edit - fyi if you uninstall the launcher it will delete the games on the local drives WITHOUT a warning. hands down the worse launcher i've used. every game i'm trying to install simply ends up in an endless resume loop.
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Old Jun 16, 2019, 09:17 PM   #515
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early days of Steam store sucked as well. I got over that and I am dealing with the crap Epic store now. The big discounts and free games help a lot. As a backer of Shemue 3 it seems I will be playing my copy here now. lol
I don't remember Steam sucking this bad. Remember, Steam didn't have a blueprint to follow. Epic didn't have to add anything groundbreaking, but the basics should've at least been covered.
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Old Jun 17, 2019, 01:23 AM   #516
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Agreed, Steam were pioneers. It doesn't matter how basic they were when they launched because nobody knew any better.


Epic have seen how Steam, Uplay, Origin etc have been working for years. They've even had four years of their own limited store front. It might be more forgivable if they were a small indie without the resources but as we've seen they have plenty of cash to throw around. They just need to put some of it into improving the customer experience.
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Agreed, Steam were pioneers. It doesn't matter how basic they were when they launched because nobody knew any better.


Epic have seen how Steam, Uplay, Origin etc have been working for years. They've even had four years of their own limited store front. It might be more forgivable if they were a small indie without the resources but as we've seen they have plenty of cash to throw around. They just need to put some of it into improving the customer experience.
Come to think of it, EA's Origin had a surprisingly smooth launch. They had a few hiccups, but all in all they had the features and everything set from day one IIRC.

EPIC has no excuse, none whatsoever short of being lazy.
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You guys must have been late to the Steam store game or have rose colored memories. The site crashed a lot in the beginning, some times for very long periods of time. Some times it took awhile for games to activate after purchase. On day one for big releases the servers would flat-line, it was great.

The best was and is Steam would ban or remove a game and not refund the money they charged for it with no word to the customer for days soe times weeks. Awesome.
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I care more about the state of EGS today than the state of Steam a decade ago.
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You guys must have been late to the Steam store game or have rose colored memories. The site crashed a lot in the beginning, some times for very long periods of time. Some times it took awhile for games to activate after purchase. On day one for big releases the servers would flat-line, it was great.

The best was and is Steam would ban or remove a game and not refund the money they charged for it with no word to the customer for days soe times weeks. Awesome.
So you are suggesting it's ok to recreate history again rather than learn from those mistakes and not have everyone make them individually?
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Seriously, it doesn't make sense to compare Epic to Steam 15 years ago...
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So Epic just bought Houseparty: https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/12/1...ite-video-chat

I've never used Houseparty but is this going to be their chat/social platform for EGS you think?
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So you are suggesting it's ok to recreate history again rather than learn from those mistakes and not have everyone make them individually?
Did you see that suggestion in any of my posts? Way to project words into another persons post.

People had been saying how Steam had had little to no issues in the beginning compared to Epic and while Epic is sucking, at least I think their store is currently sucking. I am not forgetting that Steam also sucked in the beginning. So I am not going to not use Epic (the evil double negative) now just because they are not as good as Steam is now, I am wiling to give them time, just as I was willing to give Valve time then as they had the games I wanted to play then. Epic has some of the games I want to play now. Such is life.

Seems simple to me, but maybe I do not enjoy drama in my life as much as others.
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Too much internet drama these days. If a gay ass emo nub doesn’t lose it on the internet everyday s/he feels that their life purpose has not been achieved.
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Did you see that suggestion in any of my posts? Way to project words into another persons post.

People had been saying how Steam had had little to no issues in the beginning compared to Epic and while Epic is sucking, at least I think their store is currently sucking. I am not forgetting that Steam also sucked in the beginning. So I am not going to not use Epic (the evil double negative) now just because they are not as good as Steam is now, I am wiling to give them time, just as I was willing to give Valve time then as they had the games I wanted to play then. Epic has some of the games I want to play now. Such is life.

Seems simple to me, but maybe I do not enjoy drama in my life as much as others.
The whole point everyone is making is that Steam did have problems, but 10-15 years ago. Epic has been around long enough to see every problem Steam experienced and to come out 10+ years later and not have the same problems (i.e. be better). Yet, they did not. That came out with something that looks like it came from 2005. Granted, they don't seem to have experienced any capacity issues (yet, but they haven't really had a blockbuster exclusive title yet like HL2 was for Steam) but their UI is pathetic for 2019.
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When it comes to these digital platforms all I want is to buy a game, download a game, and to update a game if I choose to update it and not forced. Epic and Gog do great with all if these, Steam horribly fails at not being forced to update.
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When it comes to these digital platforms all I want is to buy a game, download a game, and to update a game if I choose to update it and not forced. Epic and Gog do great with all if these, Steam horribly fails at not being forced to update.
I'd like to be able to read reviews, peruse the storefront's forums, at least get some idea of what the game is about. Epic has none of this, in 2019.
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I'd like to be able to read reviews, peruse the storefront's forums, at least get some idea of what the game is about. Epic has none of this, in 2019.
Amazingly, some people don't care about those things.

A mentality that seems to be common is to buy the game to find out about it, and if you don't like it, get a refund (e.g. you were hoping for a single player game and it's MP only, or vice-versa).

I'd normally blame millennials for cultivating/supporting basic, information-barren storefronts, but Eisberg is not quite a millennial.
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Amazingly, some people don't care about those things.

A mentality that seems to be common is to buy the game to find out about it, and if you don't like it, get a refund (e.g. you were hoping for a single player game and it's MP only, or vice-versa).

I'd normally blame millennials for cultivating/supporting basic, information-barren storefronts, but Eisberg is not quite a millennial.
I've quit using Steam reviews and forums to figure out if I want to buy a game like some years ago, I found other anonymous people's opinion when I really don't have a base line to understanding their likes and dislikes to not be very helpful at all. Though I have found some youtubers/twitchers by looking through their content to figure out their general likes and dislikes that I have found to be very helpful.
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When it comes to these digital platforms all I want is to buy a game, download a game, and to update a game if I choose to update it and not forced. Epic and Gog do great with all if these, Steam horribly fails at not being forced to update.
Yeah, that's all you want right? BS. You constantly go at Steam for the "discovery" section not giving you good suggestions, a feature that works just fine for most users. Damn bro, you come up with a new excuse for the Epic store sucking every post. I don't understand why you guys think going after Steam's short-comings (and there are plenty) somehow makes up for Epic not having features that have existed for years. Beyond that, I really don't know when this Steam-hate-bandwagon thing started. It makes zero sense. It was/is a pioneer of the digital store platform and does so many things right. New stores like the one Epic released come out with features that the Steam store has had for years, but somehow Valve/steam is painted as the bad guy.

Makes absolutely zero sense.
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When it comes to these digital platforms all I want is to buy a game, download a game, and to update a game if I choose to update it and not forced. Epic and Gog do great with all if these, Steam horribly fails at not being forced to update.
Blame the devs for not being able to use features steam has in order to enable rolling back.

You take a look at anything Nixxes has ported since around Deus Ex Human Revolution for example. Swing on over to the beta section to find previous (stable) builds of games they release. Sure it isn't labeled as a rollback feature but it sure is being used as one if you so desire.
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When it comes to these digital platforms all I want is to buy a game, download a game, and to update a game if I choose to update it and not forced. Epic and Gog do great with all if these, Steam horribly fails at not being forced to update.

You will also be trying to find the game if you have 1300+ games in the Epic Store like I have in Steam. That would be a cluster to scroll through without being able to organize into actual genres.
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Yeah, that's all you want right? BS. You constantly go at Steam for the "discovery" section not giving you good suggestions, a feature that works just fine for most users. Damn bro, you come up with a new excuse for the Epic store sucking every post. I don't understand why you guys think going after Steam's short-comings (and there are plenty) somehow makes up for Epic not having features that have existed for years. Beyond that, I really don't know when this Steam-hate-bandwagon thing started. It makes zero sense. It was/is a pioneer of the digital store platform and does so many things right. New stores like the one Epic released come out with features that the Steam store has had for years, but somehow Valve/steam is painted as the bad guy.

Makes absolutely zero sense.
Finding a game is a part of the buying process.

It isn't steam hate, but more of feeling that Steam has become useless and too restrictive over the years and the only reason to use it is for the games that are only available on Steam.
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Blame the devs for not being able to use features steam has in order to enable rolling back.

You take a look at anything Nixxes has ported since around Deus Ex Human Revolution for example. Swing on over to the beta section to find previous (stable) builds of games they release. Sure it isn't labeled as a rollback feature but it sure is being used as one if you so desire.
I blame Valve for not having a do not update option, instead they have 3 options of forced updates. People say Valve is supportive of mods , but really they half assed it by forcing updates. People who like to use mods don't want their game updated till the mods they play are updated first, but Valve forces updates which breaks mods and basically make the game unplayable for those who want to play the game with the mods.
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What? You can set steam to not update individual games. When i set it, it doesnt update them at all.
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What? You can set steam to not update individual games. When i set it, it doesnt update them at all.
Until you decide to play the game and then it will force you to update.

There are only 3 option, which are basically:

Automatically update
Update when you go to play the game
Give priority to this game to update first
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Back and forth with their support staff. Still cannot play games that I have already paid for. The damn launcher does not show-up in any lists to allow it to be uninstalled . Even 3rd party uninstallers will not detect the launcher.
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Back and forth with their support staff. Still cannot play games that I have already paid for. The damn launcher does not show-up in any lists to allow it to be uninstalled . Even 3rd party uninstallers will not detect the launcher.
Epic Games Launcher? Shows up for me in Programs and Features.
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I have had zero issues with Epic Launcher, I could just be lucky though.
Also Rebel Galaxy now free on EGS.
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I have had zero issues with Epic Launcher, I could just be lucky though.
Also Rebel Galaxy now free on EGS.
The only thing I dislike about the EGS is that two of the three games I play (WWZ & Dauntless) will not connect online if I run them as non-Steam games through Steam. I've had to use GloSC (Global Steam Controller) to run these the way I want. It works, but it's kinda messy and somewhat inconvenient.
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