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Old Mar 29, 2019, 02:42 PM   #31
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I never finished BL1. While I enjoyed some of the game mechanics, the bullet sponge enemies were as major turn off. Upgrading gear didn't seem to help me. It was probably just me. I'm sure I missed out on something epic by quitting half-way through, but I just couldn't stay interested.
Same here. The story and quests didn't keep me interested and everything scaled up as you leveled up your loot. They advertise a ton of guns, but they are all pretty much the same other than a different design with enemies that get more hit points. It got repetitive fairly quickly.
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Same here. The story and quests didn't keep me interested and everything scaled up as you leveled up your loot. They advertise a ton of guns, but they are all pretty much the same other than a different design with enemies that get more hit points. It got repetitive fairly quickly.
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I liked the physx slime, lava, slag and water

I dont think the game needs a visual change but something to upgrade its visuals. There is a very distinct difference in visuals between 1 and 2 that doesnt change art style. They need to do whatever they did between those games to 2 and 3.
I'm not saying physx itself is bad. I'm saying both that Havok is better, and that nvidia is bad. Not only did implementation of physx get far worse after nvidia bought it, but it's pressence in game did also. It wasn't until batman that we had something amazing from it. Even mafia 2 was actually lackluster, and it was hyped to ****. There was some cool **** in star wars though, but again havok had already done it better anyway...

You have two products. One is better than the other in almost every way, but the guy selling the inferior one is standing directly in your face screaming here's 20 bucks, buy my 25 dollar product now, or you suck dick. While the other guy selling the better product is just sitting behind a bench quietly working on making gold into more gold.
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I never finished BL1. While I enjoyed some of the game mechanics, the bullet sponge enemies were as major turn off. Upgrading gear didn't seem to help me. It was probably just me. I'm sure I missed out on something epic by quitting half-way through, but I just couldn't stay interested.
I'm thinking the people who are complaining about "bullet sponge" enemies are missing the point and didn't realize the game wasn't a true FPS or even meant to be. It's an FPS/RPG hybrid, and in RPG games you (usually) don't just one shot enemies.

This will be a day one purchase for me!
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I'm thinking the people who are complaining about "bullet sponge" enemies are missing the point and didn't realize the game wasn't a true FPS or even meant to be. It's an FPS/RPG hybrid, and in RPG games you (usually) don't just one shot enemies.

This will be a day one purchase for me!
Not true at all. Most arpgs have you killing things at a comfortable pace, and then when you gear up for end game, the end game should be one hitting trash mobs, slowing down for rare mobs, and having serious fights with bosses.

I like borderlands, and enjoyed number 2 a lot. It did however do a bad job at killing time of enemies.
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Not true at all. Most arpgs have you killing things at a comfortable pace, and then when you gear up for end game, the end game should be one hitting trash mobs, slowing down for rare mobs, and having serious fights with bosses.

I like borderlands, and enjoyed number 2 a lot. It did however do a bad job at killing time of enemies.
"Comfortable pace" is subjective as I never considered any enemies in the borderlands games to be anything close to bullet sponges EXCEPT for some bosses and of course elite enemies (but they were supposed to be tougher). Tougher enemies ALWAYS take more hits to kill in every ARPG I've ever played, so the point stands.
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Same here. The story and quests didn't keep me interested and everything scaled up as you leveled up your loot. They advertise a ton of guns, but they are all pretty much the same other than a different design with enemies that get more hit points. It got repetitive fairly quickly.
I completely understand if the game mechanics and/or story didn't interest you. It is definitely a repetitive game, and Gearbox often has a hard time knowing when to stop when it comes to waves of enemies and/or mobs. But enemies and missions don't scale to your level until after you've completed the game a second time. Certain areas are leveled higher than others, but you can easily outpace the main storyline by tackling side missions, same as most standard RPGs.
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Unless it's a really bad April Fools joke, there's word that B3 will be yet another Epic Games Store exclusive on September 13th.

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I would not take anything tweeted/posted etc... seriously on the one day of the year where everything is a joke. Always write off April 1st!
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lol, nothing surprises me anymore.

Also, just saw someone on Twitch mention that it's a 6 month exclusive and they did it for Console crossplay. Take that with a grain of salt, but I'm just thinking absolute garbage timing for their announcement.

And another to the will not buy pile for me.
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It would be a bad marketing move, and why delete it quickly? Me thinks this one is true. The release date may change, but it will be an epic store exclusive.
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Just cause its on epic, doesnt mean its exclusive.
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Just cause its on epic, doesnt mean its exclusive.
Epic doesn't have a reputation for sharing AAA games...

Guess we'll find out one way or another sometime this year. I still have yet to buy anything on the epic games store.
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The Borederlands community are going crazy over the Epic thing.

By the time it comes out, Epic store will probably have cloud saves, reviews, game tracking and a whole bunch more. They've planned most of it for this year.

Give it 12 months and people will be saying that the EGS is decent.
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The Borederlands community are going crazy over the Epic thing.

By the time it comes out, Epic store will probably have cloud saves, reviews, game tracking and a whole bunch more. They've planned most of it for this year.

Give it 12 months and people will be saying that the EGS is decent.
Probably more to do with the fact that the devs made insult jokes about the epic store and more or less said they were not going that route in their presentation.
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Confirmed; Epic store exclusive until April 2020.


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So, RDR 2 is next then?

Take 2 seems to be going all in on epic game store.
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So, RDR 2 is next then?

Take 2 seems to be going all in on epic game store.


Shiiiiiiiiiit. If they can get RDR2 on PC they can have my business. I'll probably pick up BL3. They better work on locking up multiplayer unlike BL2 cause people will pirate if they dont.
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lol, gearbox must be piiiiissed. They almost flat out ripped off epic in their borderlands presentation, and now they are working with them.. haha oh man.
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lol, gearbox must be piiiiissed. They almost flat out ripped off epic in their borderlands presentation, and now they are working with them.. haha oh man.
Moar liek Randy was getting blown under the podium by epic while he make a jerk off motion to the crowd slaggin em off. Randy is a dirty boy who likes getting peed on you should expect this.
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Confirmed; Epic store exclusive until April 2020.
Hahaha I even called that one on their youtube reveal video hahahhaha.

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Anything using the unreal engine is not safe from Epic exclusive. The potential to keep more money in the pockets of publishers is too tempting not to.

As more and more games get released on the Epic store and Publishers see that the store front wont hinder game sales the Epic store will get bigger.
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Anything using the unreal engine is not safe from Epic exclusive. The potential to keep more money in the pockets of publishers is too tempting not to.

As more and more games get released on the Epic store and Publishers see that the store front wont hinder game sales the Epic store will get bigger.
I don't blame them, they get the price of the engine free along with Epic basically fronting them Fortnite money for "guaranteed" sales. It's a good deal for them as much as it shafts consumers.

I still think exclusivity is shitty beyond reason and I'm bummed there's gonna be a lot of games I won't be able to play unless I don the Black Flag again or buy it on console as I have no intention of making an Epic account. I dealt with too much crap back in the WoW hype days with people trying to get access to my Blizzard account and don't feel like doing that again just because the account is linked to Fortnite whether you want it to be or not.
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This is a tough one for me. Love the games and want BL3 badly, but I also want the full experience (which includes all the stuff on Steam that Epic doesn't have: Achievements, cards, backgrounds, badges, forums, screenshot-sharing). But having to wait for 2020 for that also sucks.
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This is a tough one for me. Love the games and want BL3 badly, but I also want the full experience (which includes all the stuff on Steam that Epic doesn't have: Achievements, cards, backgrounds, badges, forums, screenshot-sharing). But having to wait for 2020 for that also sucks.
I might just wait for the GOTY version on steam.
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The Borederlands community are going crazy over the Epic thing.

By the time it comes out, Epic store will probably have cloud saves, reviews, game tracking and a whole bunch more. They've planned most of it for this year.

Give it 12 months and people will be saying that the EGS is decent.
Epic store could give me a handy while I'm playing, I'm still not interested in installing ANOTHER front end. Enough already!!!!!!
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Still don’t care who sells it, just disappointed it isn’t $10 cheaper like metro was.
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I don't blame them, they get the price of the engine free along with Epic basically fronting them Fortnite money for "guaranteed" sales. It's a good deal for them as much as it shafts consumers.

I still think exclusivity is shitty beyond reason and I'm bummed there's gonna be a lot of games I won't be able to play unless I don the Black Flag again or buy it on console as I have no intention of making an Epic account. I dealt with too much crap back in the WoW hype days with people trying to get access to my Blizzard account and don't feel like doing that again just because the account is linked to Fortnite whether you want it to be or not.
How does it exactly shaft the customer? Are games more expensive on EGS?
The only problem is that the Epic store sucks right now, as did Steam back in the day.

I don't see Epic exclusives going away, and it's not unethical business practice either.
It's just sound business; this is what it takes to drag away market share from an already established store like Steam.


Way I see it, it's 100% Steam's fault for not standing up to this blatant call to arms.
Steam is doing nothing to dissuade Epic exclusives, not a thing.

And it's going to bite them in the ass down the line. Epic's store won't always suck and that is Steam's only position in the eyes of the consumer.


There's also the "too many front-ends" argument but let's be honest - Blizzard, Ubisoft, Microsoft and EA already require their own launchers (3/4 of those are already completely exclusive from Steam).
Why should Epic also not want a piece of the pie?

I don't think anyone hates launchers more than me, I absolutely abhor being forced to install new storefronts that require being run in the background.
But it's not going to change, it's the nature of the beast that is Digital Distribution.
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