THE Epic Games Store Thread

acroig · Dec 4, 2018, 01:22 PM

As developers ourselves, we wanted two things: a store with fair economics, and a direct relationship with players. And we've heard that many of you want this too!

Soon we'll launch the Epic Games store, and begin a long journey to advance the cause of all developers. The store will launch with a hand-curated set of games on PC and Mac, then it will open up more broadly to other games and to Android and other open platforms throughout 2019.

The Epic Games store will operate on the following principles:

All Developers Earn 88%
Developers receive 88% of revenue. There are no tiers or thresholds. Epic takes 12%. And if you’re using Unreal Engine, Epic will cover the 5% engine royalty for sales on the Epic Games store, out of Epic’s 12%.

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/b...ic-games-store

Watch out Steam!

Jet Black · Dec 4, 2018, 01:44 PM

Oh boy, now I will have seven launchers when I start up my PC? This is getting ridiculous.

I'm sure there is lots of good in this announcement, but the way all these games are tied to each platform with profiles, launchers, friends, etc. If they were literally just game shops, I wouldn't care. Makes things frustrating for consumers.

Seyiji · Dec 4, 2018, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acroig

As developers ourselves, we wanted two things: a store with fair economics, and a direct relationship with players. And we've heard that many of you want this too!

Soon we'll launch the Epic Games store, and begin a long journey to advance the cause of all developers. The store will launch with a hand-curated set of games on PC and Mac, then it will open up more broadly to other games and to Android and other open platforms throughout 2019.

The Epic Games store will operate on the following principles:

All Developers Earn 88%
Developers receive 88% of revenue. There are no tiers or thresholds. Epic takes 12%. And if you’re using Unreal Engine, Epic will cover the 5% engine royalty for sales on the Epic Games store, out of Epic’s 12%.

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/b...ic-games-store

Watch out Steam!

Hoo baby you're not kidding that jams a pickle right into the deal Valve just announced. Doubly so since Valve only enables that **** for developers/publishers who make 10's of millions and it screws most indie games out of a better cut. Triply so since it favors Unreal engine users.

Valve needs to slide on back to the (with)drawing board

**DaJMasta** · Dec 4, 2018, 01:54 PM

My 'yet another launcher' groan is tempered by how pro-developer this model is. Steam takes 30% and offers **** for discoverability, only ok community tools, no external content promotion, and bare-bones tagging and search features... only taking a 12% cut is huge on its own and will probably draw a massive library in the opening few months, but specifically addressing community development/communicating with users and cross promotion with existing (youtube, twitch, etc.) platforms seems like important features missing from Steam.

So at least from that perspective, if it's not obtrusive (ahem, uplay), is functional (I'm looking at you windows store), and is actually functioning online most of the time (origin...), I'd probably prefer this platform to Steam, so I don't really mind it.

Perhaps the most interesting part will be how other services, especially Steam, react to it. Wonder if we'll just see a reduced distributor tax across the board and some improved integration and communication features. There's also the potential that a store with only a small cut removed will make starting or maintaining your own publisher's store so much less lucrative that it will help stem the tide of new launchers, but I guess we'll have to see.

**logical** · Dec 4, 2018, 02:06 PM

I dont really want another launcher.

I also dont try and make a living on a digital store either so my thoughts about the situation are purely from a consumer perspective. I already have an epic account so Im assuming they will migrate those people over.

Seyiji · Dec 4, 2018, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by logical

I dont really want another launcher.

I also dont try and make a living on a digital store either so my thoughts about the situation are purely from a consumer perspective. I already have an epic account so Im assuming they will migrate those people over.

Just fired up the epic launcher. They're using that as their client so if you had that for UT or fortnite or whatever the bam done and dusted.

**logical** · Dec 4, 2018, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seyiji

Just fired up the epic launcher. They're using that as their client so if you had that for UT or fortnite or whatever the bam done and dusted.

Done and done. Had Epic Launcher for UT for quite a bit.

Drexion · Dec 4, 2018, 02:21 PM

Considering fortnite is the biggest game in the world right now, (something like 200 million active users and 10mil concurrent players) - the epic client is probably already more widely installed than most of the other platforms you might already have on your system.

As someone said above, it's going to be interesting to see how the other platform's respond, 88% is a fair jump in the content creator's direction.

**nutcrackr** · Dec 4, 2018, 02:43 PM

Those breakdowns for developers will be quite enticing. Give it a year or two and it might be worth using.

KAC · Dec 4, 2018, 09:00 PM

Already have epic launcher since my son plays Fortnite.

Progression · Dec 4, 2018, 10:13 PM

Hey... this might force valve to make games again.

zizbuka · Dec 4, 2018, 11:57 PM

I've definitely been hoping for another game launcher/store to install. Can't contain myself

Lazy8s · Dec 5, 2018, 09:19 AM

Competition is good. I'll wait a while, but I like the idea of Valve not being the only huge game in town. Even if I'm not crazy about the idea of another launcher...

borat · Dec 5, 2018, 09:32 AM

They better give away a lot of free crap, or this will be competing with uplay as my last launcher to install and my first to uninstall...

SubCog · Dec 5, 2018, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Progression

Hey... this might force valve to make games again.

Condition Zero 2!

theshadowcult · Dec 5, 2018, 12:02 PM

Dont see this competing with valve... it may compete with gog though... wich may not be a goode thing.

Eisberg · Dec 5, 2018, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theshadowcult

Dont see this competing with valve... it may compete with gog though... wich may not be a goode thing.

Is Epic going to be DRM Free and their launcher will be optional? If no, then they wouldn't be much competition for GoG.

acroig · Dec 5, 2018, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eisberg

Is Epic going to be DRM Free and their launcher will be optional? If no, then they wouldn't be much competition for GoG.

Agreed, I see this as a direct competitor to Steam.

**DaJMasta** · Dec 6, 2018, 09:37 PM

Supergiant just launched their new game, Hades, on the Epic store.

The war has begun!

Seyiji · Dec 6, 2018, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaJMasta

Supergiant just launched their new game, Hades, on the Epic store.

The war has begun!

More like punched into a bathroom stall and pickle flipped.

They even have the Playstation exclusive game Journey.

https://www.pcgamer.com/journey-is-coming-to-pc/

**DaJMasta** · Dec 6, 2018, 10:54 PM

Yeah, they're playing hardball. I wonder how long it will take for Blizz/Activision to make a play for it to... though I dunno if they need to since they basically have their own playerbase on bnet.

KAC · Dec 6, 2018, 11:29 PM

Epic is minting money. They are winning multi awards in The Game Awards.

Mangler · Dec 7, 2018, 12:39 AM

I guess we can look forward to a bunch of indie games being timed exclusives on the epic or discord store in the future.

Yay!

MNB4800 · Dec 7, 2018, 07:46 AM

And eventually, all fall back to Steam. Windows Store anyone?

GTwannabe · Dec 7, 2018, 10:00 AM

Just what the world needs... yet another crappy Steam knockoff.

Nascar24 · Dec 7, 2018, 11:39 AM

Well, Already had this one running in the tray since I loaded Fornite which never gets played.

**DaJMasta** · Dec 7, 2018, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNB4800

And eventually, all fall back to Steam. Windows Store anyone?

I'm hoping the epic games store at least functions correctly, the windows store is not a high bar to exceed

theshadowcult · Dec 7, 2018, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaJMasta

I'm hoping the epic games store at least functions correctly, the windows store is not a high bar to exceed

Bar? The windows store is not a high FLOOR to exceed... The new one is actually WORSE than the old one...

**DaJMasta** · Dec 7, 2018, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theshadowcult

Bar? The windows store is not a high FLOOR to exceed... The new one is actually WORSE than the old one...

Maybe the bar is buried somewhere under the floor

Eisberg · Dec 7, 2018, 06:04 PM

Well a game I am very much looking forward to is going to be exclusive on Epic Games for 12 months, Rebel Galaxy Outlaw.
Double Damage explains why they are going exclusive on the store with RGO here
https://rebel-galaxy.com/rebel-galax...ames-store-qa/

Also Epic will be giving away free games every 2 weeks for a year. First one starts on December 14 with Subnautica, then 2 weeks later it will be Supermeat Boy.

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Dec 4, 2018, 01:54 PM	#4
DaJMasta Baffoonist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Silver Spring, Maryland Posts: 14,198	My 'yet another launcher' groan is tempered by how pro-developer this model is. Steam takes 30% and offers ** for discoverability, only ok community tools, no external content promotion, and bare-bones tagging and search features... only taking a 12% cut is huge on its own and will probably draw a massive library in the opening few months, but specifically addressing community development/communicating with users and cross promotion with existing (youtube, twitch, etc.) platforms seems like important features missing from Steam. So at least from that perspective, if it's not obtrusive (ahem, uplay), is functional (I'm looking at you windows store), and is actually functioning online most of the time (origin...), I'd probably prefer this platform to Steam, so I don't really mind it. Perhaps the most interesting part will be how other services, especially Steam, react to it. Wonder if we'll just see a reduced distributor tax across the board and some improved integration and communication features. There's also the potential that a store with only a small cut removed will make starting or maintaining your own publisher's store so much less lucrative that it will help stem the tide of new launchers, but I guess we'll have to see. __________________ Desktop: Intel Core i7 7770k : 16GB EVGA DDR4 2400 : Gigabyte GTX 1070 Ti Windforce X2 : Gigabyte GA-H270-WIFI : AudioQuest DragonFly DAC : Samsung SM961 NVMe 1TB SSD : Corsair Builder 500W PSU : Samsung 1440p 32" Monitor : Klipsch Promedia 2.1 : Windows 10 Pro x64 Tablet: Microsoft Surface Pro 4 : Intel Core i5-6300U : 8GB DDR3 : Intel 520 Integrated : 256GB SSD : 12.3" 2736x1824 display : Windows 10 Pro x64 HTPC:** Intel Core i3 3225 : HD 4000 integrated : 8GB Samsung DDR3 1600 : Gigabyte H77N-Wifi : 120GB Sandisk Extreme SSD : 80W power brick and picoPSU150 XT : Integrated HD Audio : Scepter 32" LCD TV : Logitech Z313 2.1 : Windows 7 Pro x64 http://www.medpants.com/

Dec 4, 2018, 01:44 PM	#2
Jet Black Radeon Sea Islands Join Date: May 2003 Location: Great Plains Posts: 3,468	Oh boy, now I will have seven launchers when I start up my PC? This is getting ridiculous. I'm sure there is lots of good in this announcement, but the way all these games are tied to each platform with profiles, launchers, friends, etc. If they were literally just game shops, I wouldn't care. Makes things frustrating for consumers.

Dec 4, 2018, 02:06 PM	#5
logical What is my purpose? Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: * Posts: 21,228	I dont really want another launcher. I also dont try and make a living on a digital store either so my thoughts about the situation are purely from a consumer perspective. I already have an epic account so Im assuming they will migrate those people over. __________________

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Dec 4, 2018, 02:21 PM	#8
Drexion Radeon Sea Islands Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,160	Considering fortnite is the biggest game in the world right now, (something like 200 million active users and 10mil concurrent players) - the epic client is probably already more widely installed than most of the other platforms you might already have on your system. As someone said above, it's going to be interesting to see how the other platform's respond, 88% is a fair jump in the content creator's direction. __________________ [Proc: Intel Core i7 [email protected]][GPU: MSI GTX980Ti 6GB][Mem: 64GB Crucial Ballistix Elite 2666-DDR4][Mobo: Asus X99-A][HD: Samsung 500GB SSD 840 EVO][PSU: EVGA SuperNova 850W G2][Audio: Yamaha RX-V673 7.2/JBL 7.2 Surround]

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Dec 4, 2018, 02:43 PM	#9
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Dec 4, 2018, 09:00 PM	#10
KAC That postcount though... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lahore Posts: 56,622	Already have epic launcher since my son plays Fortnite.

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Dec 4, 2018, 11:57 PM	#12
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Dec 5, 2018, 09:32 AM	#14
borat Radeon R700 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 789	They better give away a lot of free crap, or this will be competing with uplay as my last launcher to install and my first to uninstall...

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Dec 5, 2018, 12:02 PM	#16
theshadowcult Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: May 2008 Location: Opet Posts: 14,536	Dont see this competing with valve... it may compete with gog though... wich may not be a goode thing. __________________ Feather_Of_A_Phoenix: Nah I think it's utterly ridiculous when I invalidate someones very existence and they get mad at me. Like the **** I was just attacking an integral part of you! Why you gotta get mad at me?

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Dec 6, 2018, 09:37 PM	#19
DaJMasta Baffoonist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Silver Spring, Maryland Posts: 14,198	Supergiant just launched their new game, Hades, on the Epic store. The war has begun! __________________ Desktop: Intel Core i7 7770k : 16GB EVGA DDR4 2400 : Gigabyte GTX 1070 Ti Windforce X2 : Gigabyte GA-H270-WIFI : AudioQuest DragonFly DAC : Samsung SM961 NVMe 1TB SSD : Corsair Builder 500W PSU : Samsung 1440p 32" Monitor : Klipsch Promedia 2.1 : Windows 10 Pro x64 Tablet: Microsoft Surface Pro 4 : Intel Core i5-6300U : 8GB DDR3 : Intel 520 Integrated : 256GB SSD : 12.3" 2736x1824 display : Windows 10 Pro x64 HTPC: Intel Core i3 3225 : HD 4000 integrated : 8GB Samsung DDR3 1600 : Gigabyte H77N-Wifi : 120GB Sandisk Extreme SSD : 80W power brick and picoPSU150 XT : Integrated HD Audio : Scepter 32" LCD TV : Logitech Z313 2.1 : Windows 7 Pro x64 http://www.medpants.com/

Dec 6, 2018, 10:54 PM	#21
DaJMasta Baffoonist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Silver Spring, Maryland Posts: 14,198	Yeah, they're playing hardball. I wonder how long it will take for Blizz/Activision to make a play for it to... though I dunno if they need to since they basically have their own playerbase on bnet. __________________ Desktop: Intel Core i7 7770k : 16GB EVGA DDR4 2400 : Gigabyte GTX 1070 Ti Windforce X2 : Gigabyte GA-H270-WIFI : AudioQuest DragonFly DAC : Samsung SM961 NVMe 1TB SSD : Corsair Builder 500W PSU : Samsung 1440p 32" Monitor : Klipsch Promedia 2.1 : Windows 10 Pro x64 Tablet: Microsoft Surface Pro 4 : Intel Core i5-6300U : 8GB DDR3 : Intel 520 Integrated : 256GB SSD : 12.3" 2736x1824 display : Windows 10 Pro x64 HTPC: Intel Core i3 3225 : HD 4000 integrated : 8GB Samsung DDR3 1600 : Gigabyte H77N-Wifi : 120GB Sandisk Extreme SSD : 80W power brick and picoPSU150 XT : Integrated HD Audio : Scepter 32" LCD TV : Logitech Z313 2.1 : Windows 7 Pro x64 http://www.medpants.com/

Dec 6, 2018, 11:29 PM	#22
KAC That postcount though... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lahore Posts: 56,622	Epic is minting money. They are winning multi awards in The Game Awards.

Dec 7, 2018, 12:39 AM	#23
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Dec 7, 2018, 07:46 AM	#24
MNB4800 Radeon Sea Islands Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Muscat Posts: 3,349	And eventually, all fall back to Steam. Windows Store anyone? __________________ Sending A Dream Into the Universe Steam ID: Vayne4800, Origin: Vayne4800, Battletag: Vayne#2528

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Dec 7, 2018, 10:00 AM	#25
GTwannabe Radeon Northern Islands Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,105	Just what the world needs... yet another crappy Steam knockoff.

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Dec 7, 2018, 11:39 AM	#26
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