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Old Nov 29, 2017, 01:37 PM   #1
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Are these official? Not seeing them on the AMD site.

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Old Nov 29, 2017, 02:40 PM   #2
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Yeah they're up now http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-arti...ase-Notes.aspx

I like how 11.2 was 'pulled' (stopped appearing in the driver update notices) after 11.3 hotfix appeared (also not appearing in driver update alert). This is the right behavior I think. Although I do have DoomVR pre-ordered, at this point I'm inclined to wait for the massive update that's due in early December I hope??!?
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Good grief they're really having trouble with:
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege may experience an application hang when breaching walls with grenades or explosives.

It's been 3 or 4 revisions and still no go.
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Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege may experience an application hang when breaching walls with grenades or explosives.

It's been 3 or 4 revisions and still no go.
Which most likely means it may not be on their end, but a bug in the games code. Not all issues are fixable at the driver level, specially if there are lazy or incompetent devs involved.
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Sizeable performance improvement over the 17.10's in this one.

But price is the overwhelming issue for me at this point.

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Anyone else seeing crashes with 17.11.4? I've had a couple crashes while playing DX:MD, and now occasional desktop crashes and driver restarts as well. This is after a 'clean install' but not using DDR. [Mostly happening when Turbo mode is chosen on the Performance slider].

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After reports that Seige WAS working correctly with these I installed overthetop of 17.7.2 and lo and behold they work just fine.
Seems odd that the known issues still reports this as an issue but maybe it's affecting other products.

I did have one crash and that was while dling on steam while playing Sniper ghost warrior 3. After the dl was done it didn't crash again.
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Good luck finding a Vega card now. Miners snapped them all up again. :-\

As for updates- I will wait till December's update gets here.
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Anyone else seeing crashes with 17.11.4? I've had a couple crashes while playing DX:MD, and now occasional desktop crashes and driver restarts as well. This is after a 'clean install' but not using DDR. [Mostly happening when Turbo mode is chosen on the Performance slider].
if it mostly happens in turbo mode it's most likely a thermal issue rather than drivers. I use custom mode and undervolt and have had no issues. try tweaking in custom mode rather than using turbo.
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if it mostly happens in turbo mode it's most likely a thermal issue rather than drivers. I use custom mode and undervolt and have had no issues. try tweaking in custom mode rather than using turbo.
yes, and no. Vega is a different beast all together on how it controls it's core speeds etc. Voltage and thermal controls the clock speed more than the actual core speeds you have set in the P6 and P7 states.


As you would expect, if the Vega gets to hot, the card will start to throttle. However, if the card is running nice and cool, the card will increase the clock until it hits the voltage limit of what the p6/p7 voltage is set at +power limit. The core speeds set in those states are just low limits, meaning it will clock much higher than what you have set, if the temps are good and it has not hit the voltage limit.

I learned this when I added the second radiator to my Vega cooling. It brought down the temperatures, which introduced instability (specially in rainbow six siege). I was baffled, because It was running cooler, so why would it cause instability since I changed no settings.

Turns out, that because it was running cooler, it would increase the clock speeds higher than before because it now had a better thermal ceiling and still had voltage available. It was spiking to 1785 Mhz in Siege. I already knew my Air cooled card that I put under water, was only stable to about 1720 Mhz.

So I had to start undervolting to keep it from spiking. (this was running the LC bios). If I had left the bios on the stock air cooled, it would have ran at 1610 all day long. With LC bios and undervolting and reduction in the p7 core speeds (can't do the 1750 it defaults at) my card happily runs at 1660 to 1700, and no crashes in any game.

Basically, it was the spikes that was causing the crashing, all because I gave it a better thermal ceiling and allowed it to have the voltage to push the core speeds beyond what MY silicon is able to sustain.

The irony is I updated to the latest drivers the same time I added the extra radiator. At first, I to thought it was driver related, until I rolled back, and had the same problem.
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