AMD Rebrands GCN 7000 series to make 8000 series desktop cards for OEM's

caveman-jim · Jan 7, 2013, 07:21 PM

A tidbit in the AMD Radeon HD 8000M series launch today showed AMD's hand for their GPU strategy - OEM's are getting a top to bottom range of AMD Radeon HD 8000 desktop cards with only 2 new chips in the stack.

The full details are here, with the GPU architectures clearly indicated. The Pitcairn XT and Tahiti Pro and XT2 cards are rebranded, just change the leading 7 to a 8 and done.

For the Cape Verde cards, 7770 becomes 8760, 7750 becomes 8740; no changes to specifications just take 10 off the last two digits - the relative performance indicator - and increment the family numeral.

The venerable Cedar and Caicos GPU's, which were the ATI Radeon HD 5450 and AMD Radeon HD 6450 respectively, become the 8350 and 8400 series. This leaves only the 8570 and 8670 GPU's with new specifications, looking for all the world like binned Cape Verde chips with boost firmware, remarkable similar to the Solar GPU's launched on the mobile side.

So why are the OEM's getting the new lineup first, that isn't new? Well, todays press conference talked a lot about the new Richland APU, coming in 2013 to replace Trinity. When we asked AMD's Jay Marsden about APU dual graphics capability of the new Solar GPU's, we were told that the new GPU's won't dual graphics, but instead enduro connect with APU's. Is AMD bringing the same thing to the desktop and using GCN for the compelling reason to have a dGPU in your APU system?

Of course, there's the old standby that AMD need GCN to fight the Kepler cards for Intel design wins, too. Those Ivy Bridge CPU's need a real GPU, and the Northern Islands 40nm rebrands in the OEM 7000 series didn't fare well against the 28nm Kepler onslaught.

moshpit · Jan 9, 2013, 09:02 AM

No comments as yet? Lemme be the first then. Shame on you, AMD! Taking a page from Nvidia's playbook like that, I thought better of ya! *snickers and runs to hide from the lambasting sure to follow*

Sazar · Jan 9, 2013, 09:36 AM

So, the desktop 8000 series cards, any reviews on the "new" cards?

**Nunz** · Jan 9, 2013, 09:48 PM

I miss you moshpit!!!!

caveman-jim · Jan 9, 2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sazar

So, the desktop 8000 series cards, any reviews on the "new" cards?

They're the same as the 7000 series... and they're OEM only so you'll have to wait till people buy HP/Dell/etc PC's with them in them.

moshpit · Jan 10, 2013, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nunz

I miss you moshpit!!!!

Thanks bro!

**acroig** · Jan 10, 2013, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Nunz

I miss you moshpit!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by moshpit

Thanks bro!

Ya, where the F have you been!?

moshpit · Jan 10, 2013, 12:41 PM

Been playing a buncha games n stuff. Got sucked into Second Life for awhile as well, which was a real time drain. Been lurking around here though, waiting for the right time to troll a thread with a smart ass remark :P

Android1 · Jan 11, 2013, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by moshpit

Been playing a buncha games n stuff. Got sucked into Second Life for awhile as well, which was a real time drain. Been lurking around here though, waiting for the right time to troll a thread with a smart ass remark :P

Second Life? You? Sorry, man, I can't picture it.

moshpit · Jan 12, 2013, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Android1

Second Life? You? Sorry, man, I can't picture it.

LMAO! IKR? I've been running an industrial music club in SL, go figure :P

noc_81 · Jan 12, 2013, 07:12 PM

Wow... this is sad, AMD.. rolling out a new mobile series that seem to be the same as the last, die for die. And this was done with the 6xxx series too, right? And I thought I got jipped taking a 6850 as a warranty replacement for my 4870, thinking that DX11 and UVD3 meant anything in the end when it was basically a stripped down 5850..

moshpit · Jan 13, 2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by noc_81

Wow... this is sad, AMD.. rolling out a new mobile series that seem to be the same as the last, die for die. And this was done with the 6xxx series too, right? And I thought I got jipped taking a 6850 as a warranty replacement for my 4870, thinking that DX11 and UVD3 meant anything in the end when it was basically a stripped down 5850..

Well, keep in mind, Nvidia plays this rebranding game too. It seems to be SOP for graphics makers other then Intel right now, and the only reason Intel doesn't do it is cause of the nature of their GPUs makes that difficult considering the integration to the CPU.

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caveman-jim Deposed King of Rage3D Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 49,000	AMD Rebrands GCN 7000 series to make 8000 series desktop cards for OEM's A tidbit in the AMD Radeon HD 8000M series launch today showed AMD's hand for their GPU strategy - OEM's are getting a top to bottom range of AMD Radeon HD 8000 desktop cards with only 2 new chips in the stack. The full details are here, with the GPU architectures clearly indicated. The Pitcairn XT and Tahiti Pro and XT2 cards are rebranded, just change the leading 7 to a 8 and done. For the Cape Verde cards, 7770 becomes 8760, 7750 becomes 8740; no changes to specifications just take 10 off the last two digits - the relative performance indicator - and increment the family numeral. The venerable Cedar and Caicos GPU's, which were the ATI Radeon HD 5450 and AMD Radeon HD 6450 respectively, become the 8350 and 8400 series. This leaves only the 8570 and 8670 GPU's with new specifications, looking for all the world like binned Cape Verde chips with boost firmware, remarkable similar to the Solar GPU's launched on the mobile side. So why are the OEM's getting the new lineup first, that isn't new? Well, todays press conference talked a lot about the new Richland APU, coming in 2013 to replace Trinity. When we asked AMD's Jay Marsden about APU dual graphics capability of the new Solar GPU's, we were told that the new GPU's won't dual graphics, but instead enduro connect with APU's. Is AMD bringing the same thing to the desktop and using GCN for the compelling reason to have a dGPU in your APU system? Of course, there's the old standby that AMD need GCN to fight the Kepler cards for Intel design wins, too. Those Ivy Bridge CPU's need a real GPU, and the Northern Islands 40nm rebrands in the OEM 7000 series didn't fare well against the 28nm Kepler onslaught.

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moshpit Resident Mac Hater Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: PIT, PIT, PIT, in the PIT!!! Posts: 19,876	No comments as yet? Lemme be the first then. Shame on you, AMD! Taking a page from Nvidia's playbook like that, I thought better of ya! snickers and runs to hide from the lambasting sure to follow __________________ If you feel like I'm hurting your wittle feelings too much, refer me to this thread : A new nicer moshpit??? "Go screw yourself Apple."

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Sazar Rage3D Spammer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 25,600	So, the desktop 8000 series cards, any reviews on the "new" cards? __________________ "Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple." -Barry Switzer

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moshpit Resident Mac Hater Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: PIT, PIT, PIT, in the PIT!!! Posts: 19,876	Been playing a buncha games n stuff. Got sucked into Second Life for awhile as well, which was a real time drain. Been lurking around here though, waiting for the right time to troll a thread with a smart ass remark :P __________________ If you feel like I'm hurting your wittle feelings too much, refer me to this thread : A new nicer moshpit??? "Go screw yourself Apple."

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Jan 12, 2013, 07:12 PM	#11
noc_81 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 9	Wow... this is sad, AMD.. rolling out a new mobile series that seem to be the same as the last, die for die. And this was done with the 6xxx series too, right? And I thought I got jipped taking a 6850 as a warranty replacement for my 4870, thinking that DX11 and UVD3 meant anything in the end when it was basically a stripped down 5850..

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