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Old May 5, 2012, 12:01 AM   #3871
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Hmm I'll try that. I play with motion blur off (AA enabled, though)
With AA off it's possible to get 60mins.. I'll try it out tomorrow if I have time before I leave.
not possible with 7970 :/ even overclocked to 1125/1575
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Old May 5, 2012, 12:02 AM   #3872
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I'm not sure. It really depends on how much of a performance hit the 4xAA is putting.
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I start feeling like crap after a while - and not just from sitting all day playing video games and not taking care of myself; but this **** always makes me real cynical. I start hating people, hating America, hating life in general. I swear this game slowly starts making me a sociopath.
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well even with aa/mblur off i cant maintain 60+ thats what i meant, even overclocked to max overdrive settings. assuming linear oc scaling i imagine id have to oc the core clock to 1300 to achieve it. ocing the memory gives little benefit in bf3 with aa off
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Old May 5, 2012, 12:30 AM   #3874
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I'll test it out for ya, no doubt.
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Old May 5, 2012, 07:58 AM   #3876
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NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 670 2GB Video Card Performance Preview

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Tweaktown probably isn't going to have a relationship by offering this review but based on their findings, it is faster than a HD 7970 and worse case faster than a HD 7950 -- nice product and and slowly improving price/performance with 28nm.
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Nice recap on the GTX 680 and the HD 7970 did well. Also showed some screen shots with lod adjustment with AMD compared to nVidia. Think it's great to see sites create awareness for this -- hopefully more awareness, nVidia may listen and also add lod adjustments, too.

Earlier in this thread, super-sampled was discussed and personally raised the point of hybrid modes or mixed modes and computerbase did touch on this:

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/g...formancerating

Where x4 super-sampling may be harsh a nice balance of x4 multi-sampling and x2 super-sampling is nice for flexibility.
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Tweaktown probably isn't going to have a relationship by offering this review but based on their findings, it is faster than a HD 7970 and worse case faster than a HD 7950 -- nice product and and slowly improving price/performance with 28nm.
Nvidia usually does have a sweet spot card and this looks like it is it. If those settings hold up, shaders/ram speed/ROPs etc. this should really be a very nice card. They didn't talk at all about boost or boost speed?

Now for the game selection and settings , talking about Nvidia black book of best games to use or settings . Makes me think the card was given to them by Nvidia themselves, leave off that engineer sample number, take no images .

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nVidia has LOD adjustments..


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Wow, 670 boned 7970 as well. Damn.
How is availability like going to be for the 670s?
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Did quick test with Mafia II, about the only game on their list that I am somewhat confident what the settings where. Anyways there High IQ section (why would they pick Mafia 2 ) anyways I duplicated settings, 1920x1200, use a superior AA method (not the ingame but MLAA2) and got 99.7fps . Their Metro tests: Was that DX11, 10 or 9? AA method if any? AF?

Hope to see more reviews of the 670 with a clearer picture how tested.

Availability - none to be seen yet.
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Not for SSAA with DirectX 10 and 11 content.

Community being constructive:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=226244
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Nvidia usually does have a sweet spot card and this looks like it is it. If those settings hold up, shaders/ram speed/ROPs etc. this should really be a very nice card. They didn't talk at all about boost or boost speed?

Now for the game selection and settings , talking about Nvidia black book of best games to use or settings . Makes me think the card was given to them by Nvidia themselves, leave off that engineer sample number, take no images .

Nice seeing something but TweakTown
In this article, they mentioned boost but can't seem to find the picture of the specs now or any pics:

GTX 670 was 915 base clock with a boost clock of 994 from what I remembered.
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The back of the card and the smallish PCB!
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Wow, 670 boned 7970 as well. Damn.
How is availability like going to be for the 670s?
Only you would believe that article. They used different drivers for the cards for one. Also, why is the 670 only a couple percent slower or the same as the 680? Who in their right mind would buy the 680 then? Why is the 7970 also equal to the 580 or only a few percent faster too? We all know that isn't the case.
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Hehe, find it very hard to believe nVidia planned the GTX-670 to be 399! But, more like 249-299.
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Only you would believe that article. They used different drivers for the cards for one. Also, why is the 670 only a couple percent slower or the same as the 680? Who in their right mind would buy the 680 then? Why is the 7970 also equal to the 580 or only a few percent faster too? We all know that isn't the case.
Why did gamers buy the GTX 580 when the HD 6970 or GTX 570 were around 10-15 percent slower and around 349?
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Why did gamers buy the GTX 580 when the HD 6970 or GTX 570 were around 10-15 percent slower and around 349?
Because fanboys. Also different release dates. Or you know, because it was a little more than 10-15 percent. While with that review it looks like about a 5 percent difference, but I'd have to look at it again to be sure.

Edit: just looked again and it looks like the 680 on average is only about 5% faster at 2560 than the 670.

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Because fanboys. Also different release dates. Or you know, because it was a little more than 10-15 percent. While with that review it looks like about a 5 percent difference, but I'd have to look at it again to be sure.

Edit: just looked again and it looks like the 680 on average is only about 5% faster at 2560 than the 670.
Ya a 5% performance gap would make the 680 irrelevant, somehow i dont see that happening
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Only you would believe that article. They used different drivers for the cards for one. Also, why is the 670 only a couple percent slower or the same as the 680? Who in their right mind would buy the 680 then? Why is the 7970 also equal to the 580 or only a few percent faster too? We all know that isn't the case.
Someone else bought up a good point on Hardforum. Why is GTX680 performing so closely to 7970 in Metro 2033 while using the same older drivers as every other review which we all know isn't the case.
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Because fanboys. Also different release dates. Or you know, because it was a little more than 10-15 percent. While with that review it looks like about a 5 percent difference, but I'd have to look at it again to be sure.

Edit: just looked again and it looks like the 680 on average is only about 5% faster at 2560 than the 670.
Hope it is around 5-10 percent and receive some improvements to performance value for 28nm and slowly raising the 28nm performance/value bar.
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Some one raised a funny point -- the GTX 670 smaller PCB looks like a half of a GTX 690 PCB -- it is so odd to see such a small PCB.
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they should go for 1050 to 1100 on clocks and not jack prices back up
and they could do more on the driver side too
the 7970's have not got as good of performance increase with drivers as past new ati cards
they have fixed some bugs but no 5 to 10%+ performance increases in some games like the 5970/6970's had in each new driver in the first 6 months

but i still can't find a 680 to buy to test after what 7 or 8+ weeks
wonder if there will be more before the 780
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To little and probably too late. New reviews would still probably favor the 680 at those speeds which would seal the Tahiti fate to 2nd best which really I don't believe is the case but that doesn't matter.

Agree it should be higher, at least 1050 but more like 1100. My 7970, probably one of the first ones produced, purrs at 1100/1575 at default volts. Amd needs to get rid of the cheap ass HSF combination and go higher quality, at least with the fan that is. The heat sink does OK but the blower fan is just too loud at anything over 40%, definitely over 50%.

AMD probably does need to do something to maintain perception of value because price drops are about as low as they can get before serverly affecting all the 7xxx series which once Kepler migrates down will probably do anyways. AMD I hope is very flexible and can impliment effective changes fast, that is how you can beat Nvidia which has a cadence that is getting slower and slower. Best defense is an effective offense that comes up with new plays at a moments notice plus makes it more fun.

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nvidia is much faster at changing than amd imo. amd takes forever to respond to anything
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Someone else bought up a good point on Hardforum. Why is GTX680 performing so closely to 7970 in Metro 2033 while using the same older drivers as every other review which we all know isn't the case.
I would say they where using High instead of very high, plus DX9 vice DX11. They are very unclear on what settings they use in general on all of their reviews. Then I wouldn't put it past them using old numbers from a totally different rig .
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Well, I am glad I didn't have to go through the availability bullcrap and also AMD's revision of 7970 since my card is already at 1125/1575 stock settings. At this pace it should be faster than a stock GTX 680 which I am glad about.

Irrespective of the 670 performance, I am quite content with my current card. Maybe next year I will indulge in nVidia (like I have been saying for past 4 years now lol). Also, considering crossfire since a used 7970 is going for cheap in my hometown. If it hits the sweet spot price, I will place an order pronto. It has been on sale for a few days .
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