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Old Dec 17, 2011, 07:19 PM   #361
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Keep in mind the Euro currency doesn't trade 1:1 on US currency, but more like 1 euro equals 1$30 cents US, so even at 525 euro's that's not far off 700$ US.


But it's all early speculation and inflated prices to nab the first suckers that will pay pretty much anything to get them ASAP anyhow, so until reviews are out and official prices anounced, i treat the early prices as B.S.
well my 3930k before launch was like 650 to 700 euro without tax and still ended up 599
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So if reviews are out on the 22nd for the paper launch, I presume then that the cards are already in the hands of the web press etc?
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That doesnt make sense, 7970 is 30% faster than 6970, meaning its around 6990 speed?? wtf?
Of course NOT

In most cases I get perfect scaling and that means ~ 90-100% (with the HD6990 running@880/1375) This is with Eyefinity and/or 1920x1080+MaxAA
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well my 3930k before launch was like 650 to 700 euro without tax and still ended up 599

I don't doubt it, mainly because euro distributors and retailers in general are used to higher profit margins than in the US or canada, where it's more cut throat in terms of competition, and might even be subject to import taxes in some countries and/or considered luxury items since they are high end parts(more heavily taxed), and the same goes for the HD7970 cards.
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That doesnt make sense, 7970 is 30% faster than 6970, meaning its around 6990 speed?? wtf?
I remember when the 5870 launched and thought it could've beat the 4870X2, but just closer to the 4870X2 performance, but sometimes it beats the 4870X2 in some games. The 7970 probably won't beat, but just closer to the 6990 and sometimes beat the 6990 (lower clock) in the some games, but would definitely beats the 5870 CF. Remember, the 6970 CF (true stock clock) is faster than a 6990 due to the lower clock.
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I don't doubt it, mainly because euro distributors and retailers in general are used to higher profit margins than in the US or canada, where it's more cut throat in terms of competition, and might even be subject to import taxes in some countries and/or considered luxury items since they are high end parts(more heavily taxed), and the same goes for the HD7970 cards.
They need higher profit margins to make up for all of the crazy government regulations on returns and warranties and what not.
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I remember when the 5870 launched and thought it could've beat the 4870X2, but just closer to the 4870X2 performance, but sometimes it beats the 4870X2 in some games. The 7970 probably won't beat, but just closer to the 6990 and sometimes beat the 6990 (lower clock) in the some games, but would definitely beats the 5870 CF. Remember, the 6970 CF (true stock clock) is faster than a 6990 due to the lower clock.
Well when it came out it did and didnt beat a 4870x2 but remember most people were saying concluding it was most definatly a single GPU version of a 4850x2 on a stick.

I think i'd be pleased if it was at least a single GPU version of at least a 5970. Unless bulldozer somehow reared its ugly head and found its way to fail the GCN architecture....
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Unless bulldozer somehow reared its ugly head and found its way to fail the GCN architecture....
Huh? They have the separate divisions for the CPU and GPU. So they don't work together. Does this make sense to you? I'm not sure if you're sarcasm...
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Huh? They have the separate divisions for the CPU and GPU. So they don't work together. Does this make sense to you? I'm not sure if you're sarcasm...
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Meaning the GPU/CPU guys/ladies work together after all. GCN stuff will need to work with BD type design.
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That looks much closer to what I was expecting, 40-50% better than GTX580, which is pretty good. I think people are getting a littler carried away thinking its gonna be faster than 6990, but we will wait and see I guess.
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That looks much closer to what I was expecting, 40-50% better than GTX580, which is pretty good. I think people are getting a littler carried away thinking its gonna be faster than 6990, but we will wait and see I guess.
so it ends up 10% to 15% slower than a 6990
if so then a 30" screen may only need one card now
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If the benches are accurate, maybe a factory over-clocked edition or simply an over-clocked 7970 could reach the 6990. Very impressive raw potential.
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If the benches are accurate and it comes in at a 449 to 499 price

what will the 580 drop to
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tbh I'm thinking more like its going to be 30% slower than 6990 across the board (average), except perhaps epeenmark. I seriously dont see it overtaking a 6990 or even getting within 10% of it.


edit: You know what I take that back, 6970 is in the .8-.9 area on the chart above, and 6990 in the 1.6-1.7 range. Yes it could be closer to a 6990 than I expected in best case scenarios, which is pretty impressive, although most of the time I predict it will be 15-30% slower. A nice oc'd card could perform very well.
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Fud: Radeon HD 7970 close to HD 6990

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We managed to score some fresh info on the performance of AMD's upcoming Radeon HD 7970 card. Of course, as it was the case with previous performance figures we wrote about, these are only 3DMark 11 figures and are done with the first "usable" driver, but gives at least some insight about the performance that can only get better once the final driver shows up.

When compared to the HD 6970, the HD 7970 is around 50 percent faster in 3DMark 11 Extreme test. It scores around 2800 points while the HD 6970 can get up to around 1800 points. The HD 6990 scores around 3400 points in the same test, but according to our sources, HD 7970 is more than happy with a good OC that draws the card an inch away from the HD 6990. The previously reported 30ish percent was probably taken from 3DMark 11 Entry setting test where all the cards are closer in performance.

We were also told about the 3DMark 11 Performance setting performance that ends up on par with the HD 6990 but we aren't sure if these are with or without OC.

These numbers also mean that the HD 7970 ends up faster than the Nvidia GTX 590 in some cases. Of course, as always, take these numbers with a grain of salt as final driver could change a thing or two, but we guess that we'll know for sure on 22nd of December.

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Crazy if true.. but better to lower expectations. If it does pan out that way, this series will be 'the' card to have for enthusiasts no exception.
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hmmm, will there be availability 22 Dec? or on 9 Jan 12? How an Ethusiast could not be excitted by this launch, fastest GPU/Gaming GPU in history (if some of this is really true) is beyond me. Great stuff! Well I hope so that is. Come on 22 Dec. . .
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the $400+ graphics cards are way out of the price range of the average gamer, i know it certainly is for me. I'm looking at the $200-$300 price range, so that would be the 7950 right?
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Dear lord, this card looks like it's going to be an absolute MONSTER! Can't wait!
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I'm slightly disappointed with the new features. I'll have to check out this custom resolution thing... hopefully it is not eyefinity exclusive feature.
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the $400+ graphics cards are way out of the price range of the average gamer, i know it certainly is for me. I'm looking at the $200-$300 price range, so that would be the 7950 right?
Not according to the rumors floating around.
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