Considering ATi again... got itch? - Page 3

acroig · Nov 9, 2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KickAssCop

Apart from NFS Shift which would enter the hall of fame of good games that I never got around to finishing due to poor ATi drivers/graphics card performance (irrespective of who's fault it is) similar to say Cryostasis.

I think people are worried you might continue to feel that way after purchasing a 5850.

KickAssCop · Nov 9, 2009, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acroig

I think people are worried you might continue to feel that way after purchasing a 5850.

Yeah, I am doing my research by looking at game issues with 58XX series cards in the catalyst forums. Also gives me time till end of this week to finally decide on this fiasco. Also lowered the price of my graphics card to attract some other guy to purchase. Card goes for roughly 230$ retail and my price is 175$ for a used card. Should be ok for most people here.

I paid like 330$ or something for it back in the day.

acroig · Nov 9, 2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KickAssCop

Yeah, I am doing my research by looking at game issues with 58XX series cards in the catalyst forums. Also gives me time till end of this week to finally decide on this fiasco.

, best of luck!

caveman-jim · Nov 9, 2009, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acroig

I think people are worried you might continue to pointlessly bitch about it after purchasing a 5850.

Also, FYI:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/WEARY

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Wary

I think you are wary of buying an ATi card, not weary; you are weary of this issues you had with the current card.

acroig · Nov 9, 2009, 11:31 AM

Nice edit!

meerkat154 · Nov 9, 2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Crisler

KAC, since you have a solid card with your 4870 I would hold off right now. There is still nothing that PUSHES the 5800 series as a must have upgrade just yet. In a few months that might change but then the prices should fall as well.

With prices as they are right now if you MUST do it now get the 5850. The 5870 is a great card but unless you have a monster monitor the performance difference is not worth the price difference.

I would beg to differ...I upgraded from the 4870 to 5870 and the performance on my 24 inch monitor is very apparent. Last but not least the 5870 runs FAR cooler which is something I have been looking forward to.
-Kat

moshpit · Nov 9, 2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by meerkat154

I would beg to differ...I upgraded from the 4870 to 5870 and the performance on my 24 inch monitor is very apparent. Last but not least the 5870 runs FAR cooler which is something I have been looking forward to.
-Kat

But you have a monitor size that will allow the 5870 to stretch it's legs a bit more then I think KickAssCop has. A 4870 will push 22" and below just fine with hardly no effort, but get up into the higher resolutions and the 5870 really starts showing off it's muscle.

KickAssCop · Nov 9, 2009, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caveman-jim

Also, FYI:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/WEARY

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Wary

I think you are wary of buying an ATi card, not weary; you are weary of this issues you had with the current card.

Saucy...

As for monitor etc, since I have no plans to upgrade my monitor anytime soon I am just getting a 5800 series card for DX11 alone. As stated a bit earlier, performance with my current card is not an issue in games etc apart from select few. Another reason to upgrade is that my current card is doing 105C in games and sounds like a dust buster when tempratures go over 100 C. I think I need to clean it but after a month it goes back to its routine of whining like a bitch.

caveman-jim · Nov 9, 2009, 12:05 PM

You need to buy Vapor-X edition.

moshpit · Nov 9, 2009, 12:09 PM

When a 4870's fan starts that whining crap, it's time for wall mounting. Unless you want to deal with replacing it's cooler, it's time to retire that card. Wall mounting may be too extreme a retirement plan for your old hardware, but you get the idea...

KickAssCop · Nov 9, 2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by moshpit

When a 4870's fan starts that whining crap, it's time for wall mounting. Unless you want to deal with replacing it's cooler, it's time to retire that card. Wall mounting may be too extreme a retirement plan for your old hardware, but you get the idea...

What. The. Fark?

You serious? I thought it was spinning up because temprature was hitting 105C. Temprature was hitting 105C since I haven't cleaned the card for a while. Didn't know that it was going to die out soon. DAMMIT!11

Say more...

kn00tcn · Nov 9, 2009, 12:14 PM

why? it always whines at max speed

edit: i used to run manual for a year, last month i flashed bios & have it automatic, with target temp ~85
lots of games dont need 100% gpu usage, so it's fairly quiet, only max during crysis/shattered horizon/arma2... i think that's it
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33954276

moshpit · Nov 9, 2009, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KickAssCop

What. The. Fark?

You serious? I thought it was spinning up because temprature was hitting 105C. Temprature was hitting 105C since I haven't cleaned the card for a while. Didn't know that it was going to die out soon. DAMMIT!11

Say more...

When my 4870 is at 100% fan speed, it NEVER whines. It hums on a low sounding note very loudly and healthy sounding, even when dusty. Whining is a VERY bad sign.

kn00tcn · Nov 9, 2009, 12:23 PM

we need recordings, i call mine a whine, but it's closer to a jet

KickAssCop · Nov 9, 2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kn00tcn

we need recordings, i call mine a whine, but it's closer to a jet

This.

kn00tcn · Nov 9, 2009, 12:28 PM

am i gonna be the one recording?

there are some leaf blowers outside though... & fire alarm testing

KickAssCop · Nov 9, 2009, 12:31 PM

I don't have a recording device so you can record it and I can verify if it's the same sound I am getting.

On a more positive note, the guy who wanted to purchase the card wrote back today saying that he is trying to sell off his card. Once he does, he will purchase mine. Sounds like a plan and I can wait till start of next month for purchasing the 5850 since Dirt 2 doesn't come out until then. Maybe it's next month that I get 5850, Windows 7 and Dirt 2 all at the same time and get disappointed once and for all...

kn00tcn · Nov 9, 2009, 12:32 PM

dominoes..

what's he selling?

moshpit · Nov 9, 2009, 12:40 PM

I don't have any way of recording mine either

kn00tcn · Nov 9, 2009, 12:43 PM

you all have no pc mic, no cell phone with video, no cheap digi cam with video?

i'm gonna use my hd cam's 'not good but better than cheap pc mics' mic

KickAssCop · Nov 9, 2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kn00tcn

you all have no pc mic, no cell phone with video, no cheap digi cam with video?

i'm gonna use my hd cam's 'not good but better than cheap pc mics' mic

Or maybe we are too lazy to do it and consider you as our bitch that posts recordings of his video card on an internet forum...

kn00tcn · Nov 9, 2009, 05:37 PM

or that

(ha, remind me of my pak friend)

KickAssCop · Nov 10, 2009, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kn00tcn

or that

(ha, remind me of my pak friend)

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Nov 9, 2009, 11:31 AM	#65
acroig Rage3D Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: GA Posts: 17,336	Nice edit!

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:09 PM	#70
moshpit Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: PIT, PIT, PIT, in the PIT!!! Posts: 15,405	When a 4870's fan starts that whining crap, it's time for wall mounting. Unless you want to deal with replacing it's cooler, it's time to retire that card. Wall mounting may be too extreme a retirement plan for your old hardware, but you get the idea... __________________ Ci7 860/8Gb Patriot Viper/EVGA P55 SLI/2x HIS Radeon HD 5870 CrossfireX/2x Patriot Torqx 128G/750Gb Seagate ES.2 Ci7 920@3.6Ghz/6Gb Corsair DDR3 1600/GA-EX58-UD3R/ATI Radeon HD 4870/4x 750Gb Seagate ES.2 (Media Center) C2Q Q6600/4Gb G.Skill Pi Black DDR2 800/IP35 Pro/EVGA 8800GTS 640/2x 200Gb SATA Caviar (wife's rig) If you feel like I'm hurting your wittle feelings too much, refer me to this thread : A new nicer moshpit??? "If electricity comes from electrons, then does morality come from morons?"

Nov 9, 2009, 12:14 PM	#72
kn00tcn zero-zero Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,418	why? it always whines at max speed edit: i used to run manual for a year, last month i flashed bios & have it automatic, with target temp ~85 lots of games dont need 100% gpu usage, so it's fairly quiet, only max during crysis/shattered horizon/arma2... i think that's it http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33954276 __________________ http://www.kn00tcn.net How Does GTA IV Run On: 4870x2 + 3.6ghz Core 2 Quad in Vista64? How Does Crysis Warhead Run On: 4870x2 + 3.6ghz Core 2 Quad in Vista64? FPS LIMITER - run the .jar, add an fps cap to a DX8/DX9/OGL game (without vsync, no input lag) Last edited by kn00tcn : Nov 9, 2009 at 12:17 PM.

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:23 PM	#74
kn00tcn zero-zero Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,418	we need recordings, i call mine a whine, but it's closer to a jet __________________ http://www.kn00tcn.net How Does GTA IV Run On: 4870x2 + 3.6ghz Core 2 Quad in Vista64? How Does Crysis Warhead Run On: 4870x2 + 3.6ghz Core 2 Quad in Vista64? FPS LIMITER - run the .jar, add an fps cap to a DX8/DX9/OGL game (without vsync, no input lag)

Nov 9, 2009, 12:28 PM	#76
kn00tcn zero-zero Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,418	am i gonna be the one recording? there are some leaf blowers outside though... & fire alarm testing __________________ http://www.kn00tcn.net How Does GTA IV Run On: 4870x2 + 3.6ghz Core 2 Quad in Vista64? How Does Crysis Warhead Run On: 4870x2 + 3.6ghz Core 2 Quad in Vista64? FPS LIMITER - run the .jar, add an fps cap to a DX8/DX9/OGL game (without vsync, no input lag)

Nov 9, 2009, 12:31 PM	#77
KickAssCop Silent Stalker Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lahore Posts: 9,917	I don't have a recording device so you can record it and I can verify if it's the same sound I am getting. On a more positive note, the guy who wanted to purchase the card wrote back today saying that he is trying to sell off his card. Once he does, he will purchase mine. Sounds like a plan and I can wait till start of next month for purchasing the 5850 since Dirt 2 doesn't come out until then. Maybe it's next month that I get 5850, Windows 7 and Dirt 2 all at the same time and get disappointed once and for all...

Nov 9, 2009, 12:32 PM	#78
kn00tcn zero-zero Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,418	dominoes.. what's he selling? __________________ http://www.kn00tcn.net How Does GTA IV Run On: 4870x2 + 3.6ghz Core 2 Quad in Vista64? How Does Crysis Warhead Run On: 4870x2 + 3.6ghz Core 2 Quad in Vista64? FPS LIMITER - run the .jar, add an fps cap to a DX8/DX9/OGL game (without vsync, no input lag)

Nov 9, 2009, 12:40 PM	#79
moshpit Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: PIT, PIT, PIT, in the PIT!!! Posts: 15,405	I don't have any way of recording mine either __________________ Ci7 860/8Gb Patriot Viper/EVGA P55 SLI/2x HIS Radeon HD 5870 CrossfireX/2x Patriot Torqx 128G/750Gb Seagate ES.2 Ci7 920@3.6Ghz/6Gb Corsair DDR3 1600/GA-EX58-UD3R/ATI Radeon HD 4870/4x 750Gb Seagate ES.2 (Media Center) C2Q Q6600/4Gb G.Skill Pi Black DDR2 800/IP35 Pro/EVGA 8800GTS 640/2x 200Gb SATA Caviar (wife's rig) If you feel like I'm hurting your wittle feelings too much, refer me to this thread : A new nicer moshpit??? "If electricity comes from electrons, then does morality come from morons?"

Nov 9, 2009, 12:43 PM	#80
kn00tcn zero-zero Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,418	you all have no pc mic, no cell phone with video, no cheap digi cam with video? i'm gonna use my hd cam's 'not good but better than cheap pc mics' mic __________________ http://www.kn00tcn.net How Does GTA IV Run On: 4870x2 + 3.6ghz Core 2 Quad in Vista64? How Does Crysis Warhead Run On: 4870x2 + 3.6ghz Core 2 Quad in Vista64? FPS LIMITER - run the .jar, add an fps cap to a DX8/DX9/OGL game (without vsync, no input lag)

Nov 9, 2009, 05:37 PM	#82
kn00tcn zero-zero Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,418	or that (ha, remind me of my pak friend) __________________ http://www.kn00tcn.net How Does GTA IV Run On: 4870x2 + 3.6ghz Core 2 Quad in Vista64? How Does Crysis Warhead Run On: 4870x2 + 3.6ghz Core 2 Quad in Vista64? FPS LIMITER - run the .jar, add an fps cap to a DX8/DX9/OGL game (without vsync, no input lag)

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