Originally Posted by LordHawkwind
Shadow as I've said already Vega 2018 is likely to be a Polaris refresh so yes less power and noise but of course less SP's and TMU's etc. A Vega 64 refresh makes no sense as 12nm is not the silver bullet to make Vega 64 faster than a 1080ti and don't forget the 1180/ti that would absolutely stomp all over it. A mid range refresh makes more sense for AMD as the 480 came out H2 2016 so will be 2 years old by the new release date.
Maybe it would happen that way, or maybe not but either way and likely in part, is the bit coin mining craze and it keeping inventories of available cards pretty low and expensive no matter if you choose AMD or Nvidia......Heck, the cards I bought about 3 months ago went up 150$ at Newegg since then.....Not bad for failure...