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Decat24 Sep 28, 2004 08:39 PM

Can AMD 64 2800 use a 939 Socket board???
 
Hi,

I've noticed that the best graphics cards are being made with the PCIe interface. So I'm thinkining about upgrading my motherboard, but the problem is I don't want to purchase another CPU. Does anyone know if my CPU will work with the 939 Socket motherboards?

Gator Sep 28, 2004 08:55 PM

According to your sig you have an AthlonXP 2500 which will not work in a socket 939 motherboard. Your thread title mentions an Athlon64 2800 though, so I'm assuming you meant the socket 754 version which will also not work in a socket 939 motherboard. A socket 939 CPU must go in a socket 939 motherboard, period.

drzaius Sep 28, 2004 08:56 PM

count how many pins it has. if it's got 939 then you can use a 939 board.

seriously though. no AlthonXP can. currently no Athlon64 2800+ do. the recently released Athlon64 3000+ with 90nm does have a 939 pin version.

Ristogod Sep 28, 2004 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decat24
Hi,

I've noticed that the best graphics cards are being made with the PCIe interface. So I'm thinkining about upgrading my motherboard, but the problem is I don't want to purchase another CPU.


First off, the PCIe graphics cards are not running any better than AGP currently. You need to do some research.

Also, you want the best graphics card, which will probably run you anywhere from $500.00 to $600.00, and also a new motherboard which will be probably another $100.00, but your unwilling to upgrade you CPU???

Athlon XP's are socket A (462 pins)

Athlon 64's are socket 754

Opterons and Athlon 64 FX 51 are socket 940

and the latest version of Athlon 64's and Athlon 64 FX's are Socket 939


none of any of those categories can be mixed from another

undernine Sep 28, 2004 11:43 PM

Plus, it seems that only the 3500+, 3700+ and 3800+ are socket 939. Chances are you won't see a change to socket 939 in the lower speed CPUs for a short while (or at all).

Decat24 Sep 29, 2004 12:21 AM

Sorry about that forgot to edit sig. I no longer own a Athlon XP. My currest system consists of an Amd 64 2800 CPU

Viral Sep 29, 2004 03:51 AM

Actually, on the PCIe thing, the fastest video cards - The 6800 Extreme and the X800XT PE are not available in PCIe form. So I don't know where you got that idea from.

So your solution is simple - buy an AGP video card.

drzaius Sep 29, 2004 09:43 AM

just a correction. the 3700+ is 754pin and is currently the highest 754pin out there. not sure if AMD plans on making a higher one. depends how fast they want to move entirely to 939pin.

the only card people seem to want that isn't in AGP form is ATi's X700 and Nvidia's 6600. ATi and Nvidia aren't going to stop making AGP for a while, maybe a year or so.

Payne3d Sep 29, 2004 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by undernine
Plus, it seems that only the 3500+, 3700+ and 3800+ are socket 939. Chances are you won't see a change to socket 939 in the lower speed CPUs for a short while (or at all).

Wrong.
http://www.pricewatch.com/h/prc.aspx?i=3&a=118015&f=1

Gator Sep 29, 2004 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by undernine
Plus, it seems that only the 3500+, 3700+ and 3800+ are socket 939. Chances are you won't see a change to socket 939 in the lower speed CPUs for a short while (or at all).

There are also brand new 3000 and 3200 models for socket 939. But as stated earlier, only a socket 939 CPU can fit in a a socket 939 motherboard.

Jawed Sep 29, 2004 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by undernine
Plus, it seems that only the 3500+, 3700+ and 3800+ are socket 939. Chances are you won't see a change to socket 939 in the lower speed CPUs for a short while (or at all).

The S939 3000+ and 3200+ have been released:

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...^10248,00.html

3000+ reviewed:

http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?o...rtid=63&page=1

The review implies that AMD has over-rated the 3000+, it prolly should be rated as 2800+.

Also, "It may be that if you want 90nm and PCI Express you have no choice, but to get on the Winchester Socket 939 bandwagon."

Jawed

Payne3d Sep 29, 2004 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jawed
The S939 3000+ and 3200+ have been released:

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...^10248,00.html

3000+ reviewed:

http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?o...rtid=63&page=1

The review implies that AMD has over-rated the 3000+, it prolly should be rated as 2800+.

Also, "It may be that if you want 90nm and PCI Express you have no choice, but to get on the Winchester Socket 939 bandwagon."

Jawed


Well the upcoming nForce 4 chipset is good for 754 and up and will have dual PCI express slots. Who knows...maybe Nvidia will forget about the 754 socket and focus on 939. I doubt it though.

drzaius Sep 29, 2004 11:22 AM

i would think all upcoming chipsets can do 754pin it's just a matter whether mobo companies want to make a board with it. i would hope that AMD continues to at least 4000+ (2.6ghz) with 754pin. they'll probably play it by ear.

Payne3d Sep 29, 2004 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drzaius
i would think all upcoming chipsets can do 754pin it's just a matter whether mobo companies want to make a board with it. i would hope that AMD continues to at least 4000+ (2.6ghz) with 754pin. they'll probably play it by ear.

That's true also.
I don't think these manufacturers will ditch the 754pin socket just yet...so we might see PCI-express+754pin mobos in the near future.

Johnmcl7 Sep 29, 2004 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drzaius
i would think all upcoming chipsets can do 754pin it's just a matter whether mobo companies want to make a board with it. i would hope that AMD continues to at least 4000+ (2.6ghz) with 754pin. they'll probably play it by ear.

I'm fairly sure the 3700 is the last of the S754 processors, I think AMD are keen to press ahead with S939.

John

Judas Sep 29, 2004 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decat24
Hi,

I've noticed that the best graphics cards are being made with the PCIe interface. So I'm thinkining about upgrading my motherboard, but the problem is I don't want to purchase another CPU. Does anyone know if my CPU will work with the 939 Socket motherboards?

You can buy a ASrock K8 Combo Z and upgrade to a S939 CPU without changing your motherboard.

http://www.asrock.com/news/K8_combo-Z.htm

EDIT: A review of the board :

http://www.ocworkbench.com/2004/asro...combo-z/g1.htm

Twinke Masta Sep 29, 2004 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by undernine
Plus, it seems that only the 3500+, 3700+ and 3800+ are socket 939. Chances are you won't see a change to socket 939 in the lower speed CPUs for a short while (or at all).

they got 3000+, 3200+, 3400+, 3500+ 90nm ones out for cheap (3000+ 160 i think)


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