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Higgy10 Jul 7, 2019 10:36 AM

Navi Reviews
 
Guru3d
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...-review,1.html

Nunz Jul 7, 2019 11:10 AM

That’s actually much better than I expected from the early reviews! If it’s really a $399 part that is pretty solid. They just need to up the ante and make something that will top or match a 2080TI..

Seyiji Jul 7, 2019 11:36 AM


acroig Jul 7, 2019 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nunz (Post 1338141421)
That’s actually much better than I expected from the early reviews! If it’s really a $399 part that is pretty solid. They just need to up the ante and make something that will top or match a 2080TI..

Agreed. That blower cooler has got to go through.

Nunz Jul 7, 2019 12:38 PM

GamersNexus discussion about the drivers just goes to show how awful AMD is at driver support sometimes .. having completely broken features in release drivers is unacceptable. NV has issues with drivers but for the most part, release drivers function as they should. Fan control being broken is ridiculous, and so is overclocking for some reason not working in a release (not even a press release) driver ..

acroig Jul 7, 2019 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nunz (Post 1338141446)
GamersNexus discussion about the drivers just goes to show how awful AMD is at driver support sometimes .. having completely broken features in release drivers is unacceptable. NV has issues with drivers but for the most part, release drivers function as they should. Fan control being broken is ridiculous, and so is overclocking for some reason not working in a release (not even a press release) driver ..

Yeah after all these years drivers are still questionable. :( :bleh:

Trunks0 Jul 7, 2019 03:06 PM

:lol: the drivers will even out, they always do.

Nunz Jul 7, 2019 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trunks0 (Post 1338141482)
:lol: the drivers will even out, they always do.

That’s not the point. Why is AMD releasing a driver for a new card they’re releasing that can’t even monitor core clocks properly, none the less change them? Why is AMD still releasing drivers that have completely broken fan speed control? It’s **** like this that explains why AMD has been bottom tier for so long in the dGPU world. I’m sorry but it’s completely unacceptable. Drivers mature, and that’s fine it’s expected to, but having features completely broken or not functioning properly is a lot different than what we see out of NV. This seems to happen every single AMD release; they shoot themselves in the foot time after time.

kboye Jul 7, 2019 05:40 PM

Not to defend AMD here, but I've had just as many issues with both Nvidia and AMD. Both get better after a few months. Not talking games, but just usage (not waking up from sleep, incorrect resolutions, color issues, crashes and reboots, crackling GPU audio or not working at all etc). Usually turns out ok.

These days it's Windows 10 that's been causing issues :lol: oh man...

bill dennison Jul 7, 2019 05:50 PM

Quote:

Radeon RX 5700 Series GPU’s support CrossFire in ‘Explicit’ multi-GPU mode when running a DX12 or Vulkan game that supports multiple GPU’s. The older ‘implicit’ mode used by legacy DX9/11/OpenGL titles is not supported.”
https://appuals.com/amd-removes-cros...ulti-gpu-mode/


very :(

Shapeshifter Jul 7, 2019 07:59 PM



2ghz+ when the fan is at 100%

Looks like good news for custom cooled AIB partner cards.




:lol: if only all engines were coded for AMD like forza.

pax Jul 7, 2019 09:56 PM

Holy **** navi is pretty damn good... BF5 score is amazing.

demo Jul 8, 2019 01:53 AM

Not too shabby. Especially if your favourite games are BF5 and Forza :lol:

nutcrackr Jul 8, 2019 03:53 AM

Good performance but I might wait until there are custom coolers

LordHawkwind Jul 8, 2019 08:51 AM

So I was proved right then when I said the only certain thing about Navi launch would be the drivers would be crap just like Vega and Radeon VII.

At maybe $£300 the 5700XT might be a value purchase but it would have to be an AIB partner board not the current POS AMD are shipping. Can't see it happening for a long time though.

pax Jul 8, 2019 09:07 AM

Partner boards are due out end of July. They will be the best ones to get tho as they use the AMD reference pcb but with aib cooling. AMD builds its pcb's and vrms really well. Later there will be smaller/shorter pcb made by the partners typically with weaker vrm...

No surprise theres some drivers issues and lack of perf in some games as its a whole new architecture and shader model.

Shapeshifter Jul 8, 2019 10:20 AM



copied from reddit

5700xt vs 2070 super

Hardware Unboxed -2% (1440p)
Pauls Hardware -2% (1440p)
Toms Hardware -7% (1440p)
Aanandtech -5% (not specified)
TechPowerUp -12% (1440p)
Kitguru -4% (not specified)
Bit Tech -11% (not specified)

5700xt vs 2060 super (it's 1:1 $ competition)

Pauls Hardware +15% (1440p)
Toms Hardware +10% (1440p)
Aanandtech +11% (not specified)
TechPowerUp +5% (1440p)

5700 vs 2060 super

Hardware Unboxed +1% (1440p)
Pauls Hardware +2% (1440p)
TechPowerUp -7% (1440p)

5700 vs 2060

Pauls Hardware +15% (1440p)
Toms Hardware 11% (1440p)
Aanandtech +12% (not specified)
TechPowerUp +5% (1440p)


A german youtuber had the 5700xt running at 2.1ghz using water on it.


Remember the 7970 GHZ edition?
I wonder if they will do a 5700xt 2ghz edition perhaps with some faster ram as a refresh...

pax Jul 8, 2019 10:53 AM

I have an asus R290 dcuii wonder if itll fit... They say 2 ghz is easy to get on the 5700 xt.

KAC Jul 8, 2019 07:14 PM

TPU has it about 12% slower than a 2070 Super at 1440P. Not sure who the target market is for the card but at 400$ seems ok. AIB can give this card some legs.

pax Jul 8, 2019 08:04 PM

With the simplest of better cooling getting it to 2.1+ ghz is a breeze. While it doesnt have VRS like Turing it can still push out enough frames that it beats the 2060 super its priced at easily. In some games it matches the 2070 super and even in one game the 2080.

Oddly the 5700 is best in games that used to favor nvidia like GTAV. Whatever navi has under the hood and does its interesting.

Still kinda hope they will put out a hybrid RT driver by fall/xmas like nvidia did for its gtx cards.

bill dennison Jul 9, 2019 08:37 PM

Quote:

EK Water Block Announces EK-Vector Blocks Engineered for AMD Navi GPUs
https://www.techpowerup.com/257218/e...-amd-navi-gpus

nice block

too bad no CFX

GTwannabe Jul 10, 2019 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pax (Post 1338141586)
Partner boards are due out end of July. They will be the best ones to get tho as they use the AMD reference pcb but with aib cooling. AMD builds its pcb's and vrms really well. Later there will be smaller/shorter pcb made by the partners typically with weaker vrm...

AMD needs to stop with the crappy, loud, hot blower reference coolers already.

Mangler Jul 10, 2019 02:10 PM



Looks like the stock cooler had insufficient mounting pressure.

acroig Jul 10, 2019 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mangler (Post 1338141968)
Looks like the stock cooler had insufficient mounting pressure.

Seriously!? :bleh:

Megaman Jul 11, 2019 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acroig (Post 1338141976)
Seriously!? :bleh:

Yerp!

AllexxisF1 Jul 11, 2019 09:12 AM

I hope AMD can appreciate the fact that I just bought the RX 5700XT blower card moments ago, to counteract my desires to buy a well cooled 2070 Super. :lol:

If the card gets too hot I will just get an aftermarket cooler for it. Maybe even a AIO :evil: .



I am fully back in TEAM RED BABY.

acroig Jul 11, 2019 09:22 AM

Let us know how you like it.

AllexxisF1 Jul 11, 2019 09:31 AM

I will gladly write up an amateur review.

From what I have been reading, the comments about the blower maybe a smidge overblown. Not to mention that Hardware Unboxed just did a great video showing off the card's new sharpness feature that obliterates DLSS. This new feature just plain works and doesn't require anything from developers.

I'll give a real-world layman's description of how I like the card. I think when the AIB's come out, they are going to swing for the fences on prices to probably $450+.

So I got this card now and another $50 to spend after taxes and shipping. So I might pick up a game title or the AV-8B Harrier for DCS World.

I'm wicked excited guys, I haven't picked up a new card since the my 970 came out (except that time I bought the 1080Ti and married it to my Sandy Bridge setup for a week).

pax Jul 11, 2019 10:18 AM

Im very curious to know what RS does for you at 4k in terms of perf and visuals. If I could get a cheap card that does minimum 60fps at 4k high using RS Id be darn happy.

This guy put it under EK waterblock and got it to 2,2 ghz and close to a 2080.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...f_the_5700_xt/




Coreteks said it was a good entry level 4k gaming card...


Nunz Jul 11, 2019 12:06 PM

Eek. I'd say its a midrange 1440P gaming card. Entry level 4K is a stretch imo.

There's really only one 4K card on the market and it's the 2080TI. Everything else struggles .... hard.


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