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Nascar24 Jun 9, 2019 08:34 PM

XBOX Scarlett Insanity! Holiday 2020
 
Since there is an insane thread for the other console we have to have one for the XBOX crowd :lol:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/9/18...FcYqP-a7l9nFNk

alitayyab Jun 10, 2019 08:24 AM

the specs for the next ps and xbx are so similar. Both are promising very similar features; Ray Tracing, 4K with 8k support, 120Hz refresh rate and faster storage.

It was my impression that Sony was funding some of AMD research specifically for the next PS. I guess that this wasnt in the realm of exclusivity.

The next gen console war will be down to exclusives. With MS gobbling up developers I see the next round to be more balanced in terms of unit sales of both MS and Sony

I also dont see a very bright future for nintendo. It is now in the habit of making devices that have a certain wow factor that quickly wears off. It will go down the same course as Sega and figure out that going software only across multiple platforms will make it so much more money.

That leaves the PC. If the next gen xbx/PS can actually deliver 4k @ 120Hz without any advanced Ray Tracing and cost ~400-500 I would be very hard pressed to upgrade my PC as it would make so much more sense to just pick up both consoles.

The only advantage the PC really offers over consoles is piracy and I havent touched a pirated game in over a decade not even to just try it out.

Sasquach Jun 10, 2019 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by alitayyab (Post 1338137158)
the specs for the next ps and xbx are so similar. Both are promising very similar features; Ray Tracing, 4K with 8k support, 120Hz refresh rate and faster storage.

It was my impression that Sony was funding some of AMD research specifically for the next PS. I guess that this wasnt in the realm of exclusivity.

The next gen console war will be down to exclusives. With MS gobbling up developers I see the next round to be more balanced in terms of unit sales of both MS and Sony

I also dont see a very bright future for nintendo. It is now in the habit of making devices that have a certain wow factor that quickly wears off. It will go down the same course as Sega and figure out that going software only across multiple platforms will make it so much more money.

That leaves the PC. If the next gen xbx/PS can actually deliver 4k @ 120Hz without any advanced Ray Tracing and cost ~400-500 I would be very hard pressed to upgrade my PC as it would make so much more sense to just pick up both consoles.

The only advantage the PC really offers over consoles is piracy and I havent touched a pirated game in over a decade not even to just try it out.

Your insane if you think Nintendo is done or done soon.
They struck gold with the Switch, and they always seem to have a safe niche with the younger crowd and bringing gameplay experiences that are a bit different than your typical "MOAR GRAPHICS!!!" that appeals to the dudebro crowd.

Besides, more consoles again? I don't feel this current generation has really been all that long and they're already getting ready for the next? It feels like fewer and fewer titles are getting released before the next gen comes...
I'm not all that interest beyond PS4 (which I haven't even gotten yet....) and all the buzzwords eye candy stuff isn't convincing me. Ray tracing? 8k? Why the hell do I need that? I have a basic 4k TV and I dont even have anything that uses 4k.....
all the "immersion" and cinematic experiences just dont really make me want to play anything more than once.....

SubCog Jun 10, 2019 01:28 PM

So the rumor is that PS5 will have one tier, launching at the ~$400 price point, while xbox will have both a higher and lower tier, aiming perhaps for the $500 & $300 price points. I was hoping to see MS speak about that yesterday.

Also I'm hoping that the new consoles' ray-tracing hardware will be good for something beyond just Quake2.

OverclockN' Jun 11, 2019 08:58 AM

Definitely time for a new console generation. Every PlayStation console has been released every 6-7 years since the original one. We are now 7yrs out. It's time, and I'm looking forward to it. We need better 4k support.

However, anyone thinking we are going to get [email protected] or 8k support is out of their minds. Not happening, and I hope it doesn't too. We don't need it, and just need to concentrate on getting 4k at a constant 60fps before dreaming about 120hz and absolutely pointless 8k.

Treeckcold57 Jun 12, 2019 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OverclockN' (Post 1338137345)
Definitely time for a new console generation. Every PlayStation console has been released every 6-7 years since the original one. We are now 7yrs out. It's time, and I'm looking forward to it. We need better 4k support.

However, anyone thinking we are going to get [email protected] or 8k support is out of their minds. Not happening, and I hope it doesn't too. We don't need it, and just need to concentrate on getting 4k at a constant 60fps before dreaming about 120hz and absolutely pointless 8k.

lol...what are odds that I might have a chance to get a Xbox Scarlett in 2020 since my 1st gen xbox 360. As well as I'll have a big jump from 1st gen 360 to this one. :lol: :bleh:

Dungeoncrawler Jun 13, 2019 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Treeckcold57 (Post 1338137588)
lol...what are odds that I might have a chance to get a Xbox Scarlett in 2020 since my 1st gen xbox 360. As well as I'll have a big jump from 1st gen 360 to this one. :lol: :bleh:

Bring some warm clothing because those lines will be massive!

Quote:

gta6 coming this holiday season - released exclusively for the xbox scarlett
:p

Progression Jun 13, 2019 04:04 PM

Reminds me of the XBoxOne X, great hardware, no games. :bleh: At least I can get Halo on PC now which is the only game I care about.

*Scratch that, I also care about Forza but I don't think that's coming for PC. :(

Mangler Jun 13, 2019 05:28 PM

?

Forza is already on pc.

Progression Jun 13, 2019 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mangler (Post 1338137704)
?

Forza is already on pc.

Found after I posted, I feel dumb. I now want to play the LEGO mode. I wish it weren't on MS' platform though and instead were hosted on Steam... it's so bad.

Nascar24 Jun 13, 2019 09:08 PM

Noice, was wondering when the 2nd expansion would be out. It had been quite a while. Looks like a lego forza weekend.

KAC Jun 14, 2019 10:27 PM

Looks like a Day 1 purchase for me for the both consoles.

Evileh Jun 16, 2019 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KAC (Post 1338137905)
Looks like a Day 1 purchase for me for the both consoles.

Why? everything console usually is on peecee. Especially xbox titles which are no longer xbox exclusive territory.


If you have a powerful pc, you don't need an xbox, just a ps that you use for exclusive because sony is stupid in not making pc versions of it's 1st party titles (exception for the Detroit Beyond Human like game outliers on epic store).

Jay20016 Jun 18, 2019 11:32 AM

Not sure if it has been posted yet, but there is an Xbox live ultimate deal going on right now that causes your current subscription to upgrade to ultimate for the duration of it for $1.

Information here

Get it before it goes away.

jimjobob Jun 18, 2019 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay20016 (Post 1338138374)
Not sure if it has been posted yet, but there is an Xbox live ultimate deal going on right now that causes your current subscription to upgrade to ultimate for the duration of it for $1.

Information here

Get it before it goes away.

Any one else upgrade yet?

Nascar24 Jun 18, 2019 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjobob (Post 1338138449)
Any one else upgrade yet?

Yes, had Live stacked for 2 1/2 years and game pass for 2 years doing Microsoft rewards. for $1.06 I now have max 36 months of live and Ultimate for PC and XBOX.

jimjobob Jun 18, 2019 09:32 PM

It Won't let me use my 3rd year card I just bought. It is telling me I have reached the limit on how long i can extend my subscription and doesn't allow it to go through.

Nascar24 Jun 18, 2019 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjobob (Post 1338138459)
It Won't let me use my 3rd year card I just bought. It is telling me I have reached the limit on how long i can extend my subscription and doesn't allow it to go through.

It wont let you use it if you are extending past 36 months by a day.

jimjobob Jun 18, 2019 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar24 (Post 1338138462)
It wont let you use it if you are extending past 36 months by a day.

yeah, wish I had known that before buying 3 years.

On a side note, I had a scratched off 3 month card as a bookmark that I entered the code on for shits and giggles and it took it and gave me 3 months plus another month for turning on recurring billing.

I am now up to 2 years and 6 1/2 months.

now i got to figure out how to get my money back out of the extra 1 year card.

EDIT: I also had an unused code for 6 months of game pass as well. Guess i can maybe sell them to someone as a package deal. later on

EDIT 2: Bought another 3 month online for $17 bucks got the additional free month for leaving auto renew on. That put me to 5/5/2022. Bought the upgrade for $1.00 and that put me to 6/19/2022.

KAC Jun 19, 2019 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Evileh (Post 1338138104)
Why? everything console usually is on peecee. Especially xbox titles which are no longer xbox exclusive territory.


If you have a powerful pc, you don't need an xbox, just a ps that you use for exclusive because sony is stupid in not making pc versions of it's 1st party titles (exception for the Detroit Beyond Human like game outliers on epic store).

Because cost of owning both at launch would still be lower than price of a RTX 3XXX Ti at that point in time.

Jay20016 Jun 19, 2019 10:39 AM

Friend and I were talking about it last night at how it is an amazing deal and it's odd that Microsoft is still allowing it.... Then it dawned on us, what if the next console sucks and we're all stuck with it?

Sasquach Jun 19, 2019 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAC (Post 1338138535)
Because cost of owning both at launch would still be lower than price of a RTX 3XXX Ti at that point in time.

in other words

all hail PC gaming master race!!!
:masterrace: :masterrace: :masterrace:

jimjobob Jun 19, 2019 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evileh (Post 1338138104)
Why? everything console usually is on peecee. Especially xbox titles which are no longer xbox exclusive territory.


If you have a powerful pc, you don't need an xbox, just a ps that you use for exclusive because sony is stupid in not making pc versions of it's 1st party titles (exception for the Detroit Beyond Human like game outliers on epic store).

Community.
There is a much higher likelihood that your friends/family will have an Xbox than a gaming PC.

Game pass and games with gold.
I like that I can play random games that never reached the right price point for me.

Older exclusives with BC.

Convenience.
I have games on both that I am more likely to play on the xbox.

Evileh Jun 19, 2019 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjobob (Post 1338138577)
Community.
There is a much higher likelihood that your friends/family will have an Xbox than a gaming PC.

Game pass and games with gold.
I like that I can play random games that never reached the right price point for me.

Older exclusives with BC.

Convenience.
I have games on both that I am more likely to play on the xbox.

I hate people..... lol

Cream Jun 20, 2019 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SubCog (Post 1338137206)
So the rumor is that PS5 will have one tier, launching at the ~$400 price point, while xbox will have both a higher and lower tier, aiming perhaps for the $500 & $300 price points. I was hoping to see MS speak about that yesterday.

Also I'm hoping that the new consoles' ray-tracing hardware will be good for something beyond just Quake2.



I think they may have knocked that idea on the head, There was no mention of it at E3, and was going to be less powerful than the Xbox One X. Lots of tech sites have come to the conclusion that it may have been shelved.

SubCog Jun 21, 2019 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cream (Post 1338138747)
I think they may have knocked that idea on the head, There was no mention of it at E3, and was going to be less powerful than the Xbox One X. Lots of tech sites have come to the conclusion that it may have been shelved.

Yup, looks like the lower tier console has been shelved. https://megagames.com/news/project-s...-next-gen-xbox

jimjobob Jun 22, 2019 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SubCog (Post 1338138911)
Yup, looks like the lower tier console has been shelved. https://megagames.com/news/project-s...-next-gen-xbox

IMHO, it would make more sense to just have the ONEX be the lower tier console. That's what I had originally thought they would do.

KAC Jun 28, 2019 02:13 AM

Man for 1000 getting two consoles playing 8K games would be dope :drool: :bleh:

Cream Jun 28, 2019 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KAC (Post 1338139924)
Man for 1000 getting two consoles playing 8K games would be dope :drool: :bleh:

Supporting 8k and playing 8k games are 2 different things.

Nascar24 Jun 28, 2019 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KAC (Post 1338139924)
Man for 1000 getting two consoles playing 8K games would be dope :drool: :bleh:

Stop it KAC, 8K games pffft


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